oh farking thank you...my point entirelySainterman wrote:Pack converged instantly, no opportunity, and he didnt drag it in.LENNY LEADS THE WAY wrote:Ur not allowed to camp over it u gotta knock it out mateSaints Premiers 2008 wrote:fisher camped over it...given...however he didnt touch out
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Think that was the hudgton one...and rocca missed. Another astute umpiring decision tonight.|Andy| wrote:but that's the thing. isnt this the free where rocca had the ball pinned between his legs... so it wasnt even in fisher's possession?LENNY LEADS THE WAY wrote:Ur not allowed to camp over it u gotta knock it out mateSaints Premiers 2008 wrote:fisher camped over it...given...however he didnt touch out
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Different free mate|Andy| wrote:but that's the thing. isnt this the free where rocca had the ball pinned between his legs... so it wasnt even in fisher's possession?LENNY LEADS THE WAY wrote:Ur not allowed to camp over it u gotta knock it out mateSaints Premiers 2008 wrote:fisher camped over it...given...however he didnt touch out
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I think this one was against Hudgton, wherew Rocca had his knee on the ball then squeezed between his knees, if this is the one you refer to then it was ludicrous, but the Fisher one was there.|Andy| wrote:but that's the thing. isnt this the free where rocca had the ball pinned between his legs... so it wasnt even in fisher's possession?LENNY LEADS THE WAY wrote:Ur not allowed to camp over it u gotta knock it out mateSaints Premiers 2008 wrote:fisher camped over it...given...however he didnt touch out
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So when a midfielder grabs the ball off a ruck contests, takes 2 steps, get caught and ball is pinned, does he lose his tights as he was "in control"?plugger66 wrote:In control of ball. Same thing.Sainterman wrote:Pack converged instantly, no opportunity, and he didnt drag it in.LENNY LEADS THE WAY wrote:Ur not allowed to camp over it u gotta knock it out mateSaints Premiers 2008 wrote:fisher camped over it...given...however he didnt touch out
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Depends if he had the option to move it on or not Fisher had the option to tap the ball on mateySainterman wrote:So when a midfielder grabs the ball off a ruck contests, takes 2 steps, get caught and ball is pinned, does he lose his tights as he was "in control"?plugger66 wrote:In control of ball. Same thing.Sainterman wrote:Pack converged instantly, no opportunity, and he didnt drag it in.LENNY LEADS THE WAY wrote:Ur not allowed to camp over it u gotta knock it out mateSaints Premiers 2008 wrote:fisher camped over it...given...however he didnt touch out
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This is the same rule that they haven't been paying free kicks for the last 2 or 3 rounds?iceman wrote:The ball was a foot in front of Fisher, he dragged it closer to him then failed to knock it out or make sufficient attempts to clear the ball.
I disagree with the rule, but don't disagree with the free kick.
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Well, if thats what we have come to, and thats the way we are going to play the game, call me old fashioned, but its just plain crap. Hard to enjoy watching a game these days.iceman wrote:The ball was a foot in front of Fisher, he dragged it closer to him then failed to knock it out or make sufficient attempts to clear the ball.
I disagree with the rule, but don't disagree with the free kick.
I dont mind losing (well, I do), but the rules and interpretation of them are a joke these days. Will they pay it, wont they, you just never know. It might not have cost us the points, who knows, but it made for a way more frustrating experience.
I agree mate, and i mentioned earlier (might have been in another thread) that i much prefer to go and watch local footy than this product of money greedy morons who change the game to suit themselves.Sainterman wrote:Well, if thats what we have come to, and thats the way we are going to play the game, call me old fashioned, but its just plain crap. Hard to enjoy watching a game these days.iceman wrote:The ball was a foot in front of Fisher, he dragged it closer to him then failed to knock it out or make sufficient attempts to clear the ball.
I disagree with the rule, but don't disagree with the free kick.
I dont mind losing (well, I do), but the rules and interpretation of them are a joke these days. Will they pay it, wont they, you just never know. It might not have cost us the points, who knows, but it made for a way more frustrating experience.
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For those who believe that all individuals (including umpires) have some biases which can affect their decision making, there's an interesting end piece to an article at
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/ ... 42,00.html
"At the meeting Thomas became very agitated, Fraser said, when he revealed that he had held a meeting with Director of Umpiring Jeff Gieschen a few days earlier.
Fraser said he had asked Gieschen to rate St Kilda's relationship with umpires on a scale of one to six.
"Gieschen said 'you are off the scale'. It was the worst in the AFL," Fraser told Judge Katherine Bourke. "
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/ ... 42,00.html
"At the meeting Thomas became very agitated, Fraser said, when he revealed that he had held a meeting with Director of Umpiring Jeff Gieschen a few days earlier.
Fraser said he had asked Gieschen to rate St Kilda's relationship with umpires on a scale of one to six.
"Gieschen said 'you are off the scale'. It was the worst in the AFL," Fraser told Judge Katherine Bourke. "
"The starting point of all achievement is desire. "
Max was robbed.
S Fisher draged the ball under him, and then while he couldn't get a hand to it anyway to knock it free, he didn't try. He had probably lost sight or feel on the ball, but that's not the issue once he brought it back in. The Collingwood player did very well by clamping it down on him. Free kick every time.
S Fisher draged the ball under him, and then while he couldn't get a hand to it anyway to knock it free, he didn't try. He had probably lost sight or feel on the ball, but that's not the issue once he brought it back in. The Collingwood player did very well by clamping it down on him. Free kick every time.
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for my part the umpiring decisions left me in no doubt that their poor decisions had an overbearing effect on the game. Their involvement in the game was clearly zealous and at time unwarranted which can only lead to one to wondering whether their involvement swung the game. Makes for a waste of time watching that rubbish.
(If you really want to get it that sort of umpiring involvement out of the game turn off the telly....thats where it really hurts the AFL. When the rating start to dip watch them panic!)
(If you really want to get it that sort of umpiring involvement out of the game turn off the telly....thats where it really hurts the AFL. When the rating start to dip watch them panic!)
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Anyone who thinks that the umpires don't have any effect on the outcome of games is living in fairy land.
Simply put, Collingwood received 4 very dubious free kicks that directly resulted in goals. In a 9 point result that does effect the outcome.
The one against BJ that Lockyer got was a disgrace & at a vital time.
Having said that we should have beat the filth despite this. Lenny missed 2 sodas & Milney missed one when Dal was all by himself in the fwd pocket.
Simply put, Collingwood received 4 very dubious free kicks that directly resulted in goals. In a 9 point result that does effect the outcome.
The one against BJ that Lockyer got was a disgrace & at a vital time.
Having said that we should have beat the filth despite this. Lenny missed 2 sodas & Milney missed one when Dal was all by himself in the fwd pocket.