Gehrig & Fiora out, C Gardiner & Armitage in - CONFI

[bigcarl]

armoooo could be in the mix for selection

needs a few more weeks at casey imo. make him earn his stripes

[Ralphy]

armoooo could be in the mix for selection

needs a few more weeks at casey imo. make him earn his stripes

think he has earned them well and truely,

so has geary

[i_luv_nick_riewoldt]

yea i realise that. But it is a possibilty saints could go for youth against the bombers.

[fonz_#15]

armoooo could be in the mix for selection

needs a few more weeks at casey imo. make him earn his stripes

theres a few in our team that should be made to earn their stripes, at casey and armitage would be a breathe of fresh air. time for ross to take the hard line and drop underperforming stars.

[bigcarl]

armoooo could be in the mix for selection

needs a few more weeks at casey imo. make him earn his stripes

theres a few in our team that should be made to earn their stripes, at casey and armitage would be a breathe of fresh air. time for ross to take the hard line and drop underperforming stars.

I thought you were talking about armooo, the poster, not "armo" the player. yes he's in line for selection.

[Buckets]

armoooo could be in the mix for selection

needs a few more weeks at casey imo. make him earn his stripes

theres a few in our team that should be made to earn their stripes, at casey and armitage would be a breathe of fresh air. time for ross to take the hard line and drop underperforming stars.

I thought you were talking about armooo, the poster, not "armo" the player. yes he's in line for selection.

Was thinking the same thing
But the above opinions are right IMO. It's time to give the youngsters the opportunity to impress and try to keep their spot. I honestly believe that it's up to some of the bigger names to try get back in the squad from playing themselves into form and getting that hunger back into them!

[rama35]

A very reliable source has informed me that Fraser Gehrig and Aaron Fiora have both been omitted from the side for the Essendon game.

And Luke Ball will play forward.

Not sure who the ins are or if there's any other outs.

I guess we'll have to wait til 5.30 to see if that's correct but as I said, the source is very reliable.

I think it would be a big Mistake to drop g at the dome against Essendon,Fiora has been bad so thats fair,is Gardiner back?

[Moccha]

armoooo could be in the mix for selection

needs a few more weeks at casey imo. make him earn his stripes

I doubt that.

Needs some serious gametime to see if he can cut it. Running around for the Scorps isn't going to prove much. Seeing that they did an article on the Saints homepage points to his selection this week

[bigcarl]

armoooo could be in the mix for selection

needs a few more weeks at casey imo. make him earn his stripes

I doubt that.

Needs some serious gametime to see if he can cut it. Running around for the Scorps isn't going to prove much. Seeing that they did an article on the Saints homepage points to his selection this week

I was talking about armooo, the saintsational poster, not "armo" the player. yes armo is in line for selection.

[Saintschampions08]

So what if Fraser gets the best full back when they become the BOG for their team?

i could name half a dozen others who were equally unimpressive. fiora was one of them. just don't throw the baby out with the bathwater is what i'm saying.

No ... Gehrig's direct opponent was BOG, and he's a fullback. In terms of stats, (and the two cheap goals gehrig got) he wasn't the worst, but in the context of the game he was the worst.

He was a liability on the field, rather then an asset. We did better when he was on the bench, and his man (scarlett) was held accountable for his possessions.

[Solar]

personally the changes I would like to see made are (depending on injury)

In: schneider, armo, M.Gardiner (charlie gardiner otherwise)
Out: G, fiora, blake

[bigcarl]

He was a liability on the field, rather then an asset. We did better when he was on the bench, and his man (scarlett) was held accountable for his possessions.

no doubt he put in a shocker but it's only one week.

i think a bigger problem with the forward line is our obsession with kicking it to riewoldt when he has three or four guys on him.

however the mail regarding fraser is probably correct and he will miss this week (and we'll win). i hope he doesn't pull the pin because we'll need him before the season is out.

[The_Dud]

He was a liability on the field, rather then an asset. We did better when he was on the bench, and his man (scarlett) was held accountable for his possessions.

sorry mate, but thats flat out incorrect

Scarlett did the exact same thing to Kosi that he was doing to Gehrig, and it had the exact same result

big mistake if they drop G, i would have thought it would be easier to play with a decent gameplan, then blame players when our current crap one doesn't work

[Saintschampions08]

He was a liability on the field, rather then an asset. We did better when he was on the bench, and his man (scarlett) was held accountable for his possessions.

no doubt he put in a shocker but it's only one week.

i think a bigger problem with the forward line is our obsession with kicking it to riewoldt when he has three or four guys on him.

however the mail regarding fraser is probably correct and he will miss this week (and we'll win). i hope he doesn't pull the pin because we'll need him before the season is out.

My major problem with Gehrig is his lack of intensity and effort.

Unless he gets a pinpoint kick, within a meter of where he is standing, he won't get the ball.

He doesn't warrant being in the team, kicking 1 and 2 goals against good opponents (Which are generally always cheap goals; ie: a free kick, or late in the game when its already won / lost) - and then kicking 4 or 5 against Carlton.

Unless he can kick 3 - 4 on average, he's not doing us worthwhile. At worst, it's better for the team having a hopeless youngster in their, at worst he'll provide a contest, at best, he could be a talent.

I don't see the idea of having a guy who:
doesn't run,
doesn't tackle,
doesn't take a contested mark,
doesn't kick many goals,
doesn't hold his opponent

in the team, its causing us more problems then solving.

[bigcarl]

i would have thought it would be easier to play with a decent gameplan, then blame players when our current crap one doesn't work

correct

[brown-coat]

I don't see the idea of having a guy who:
doesn't run,
doesn't tackle,
doesn't take a contested mark,
doesn't kick many goals,
doesn't hold his opponent

Terribly sad but true.

Those games in the last few years where he has done all of the above have been spectacular. If he's not interested in doing any of the above he's a liability.

Pity, i love the G-train and his sometimes explosive unpredictability.

A less top heavy forwardline could free up some room for more goals...

[Bono]

I will confirm it for you all - Gehrig, Fiora both out.
Armitage and C. Gardiner in.

[Solar]

I will confirm it for you all - Gehrig, Fiora both out.
Armitage and C. Gardiner in.

hey bono, both schneider and gardiner (m) both didn't come up?

[saintsRrising]

I will confirm it for you all - Gehrig, Fiora both out.
Armitage and C. Gardiner in.

Well I hope that they are working towards this structure...

Baker Max Geary (or L Fisher)
Sam Goose Goddard
Gram.. Hayes.. Joey
Schneider Kosi Charlie
Milne Roo X


King Dal Ball

M Gardiner Harvey Armo/CJ Gilbert

Hopefully for the PA game it will be.

[meher baba]

I will confirm it for you all - Gehrig, Fiora both out.
Armitage and C. Gardiner in.

I reckon that the selectors have gotten it just about right. Fiora was hopeless last week and Gehrig was a non-contributor. Although Armo and CG have their limitations, they deserve a go.

I reckon Gwilt should be considered in the near future. If he can be encouraged to use his body a bit, he could given us a harder edge.

[saintsRrising]

I reckon Gwilt should be considered in the near future. If he can be encouraged to use his body a bit, he could given us a harder edge.

Serious question:

Is that just hope on Gwilt or have you actually seen some form at Casey this year to warrnt him pushing for senior selection?

[fonz_#15]

I will confirm it for you all - Gehrig, Fiora both out.
Armitage and C. Gardiner in.

I reckon that the selectors have gotten it just about right. Fiora was hopeless last week and Gehrig was a non-contributor. Although Armo and CG have their limitations, they deserve a go.

I reckon Gwilt should be considered in the near future. If he can be encouraged to use his body a bit, he could given us a harder edge.

we are slow enough as it is, do you really think Gwilt is what we need?

[bigcarl]

I will confirm it for you all - Gehrig, Fiora both out.
Armitage and C. Gardiner in.

Well I hope that they are working towards this structure...

Baker Max Geary (or L Fisher)
Sam Goose Goddard
Gram.. Hayes.. Joey
Schneider Kosi Charlie
Milne Roo X


King Dal Ball

M Gardiner Harvey Armo/CJ Gilbert

Hopefully for the PA game it will be.

you wouldn't consider gilbert forward before c gardiner? he did kick a couple of nice goals last week.

[saintsRrising]

you wouldn't consider gilbert forward before c gardiner? he did kick a couple of nice goals last week.

I fully outlined how I would play both in my OP on how I would structure the team
http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... hp?t=41751

However in brief Gilbert I would play as a swingman..ir back and front.

Charlie I would play as a mini-Roo role running from HF to HB..effectively as a link man and extra mid.

[saintsrus]

Confirmed as per Sen, well done