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Re: Jack Carroll

Post: # 2082015Post magnifisaint »

Way too many f***wits on this site. I don't know anything of him but please stop making bulls*** up. So many are bagging Silvagni. The guy knows more about football than all of us put together. Get off his back.


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Re: Jack Carroll

Post: # 2082016Post happy feet »

I would rather see us recruit this type of young player than someone who is old, tired and their best past them. Welcome to the Saints Jack Carroll.


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Re: Jack Carroll

Post: # 2082017Post Scollop »

magnifisaint wrote: Fri 08 Nov 2024 5:46pm Way too many fuckwits on this site.
I agree 👍


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Re: Jack Carroll

Post: # 2082020Post B.M »

Silvagni has a horrible strike rate. Not sure how he’s in a talent ID job?


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Re: Jack Carroll

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D.B.Cooper wrote: Fri 08 Nov 2024 5:30pm
Brunswicksainter wrote: Fri 08 Nov 2024 4:52pm
D.B.Cooper wrote: Fri 08 Nov 2024 4:35pm Deja Vu.

I couldn’t pick Carroll in a line up, and don’t recall seeing him play so I won’t comment on his ability.

However I have been concerned around SOS arriving at the Saints and what input he has in recruiting.

Drafting of first round picks during his tenure at GWS was horrendous, not much better at Carlton.

At Carlton he flooded them with failed GWS rejects and I am concerned he is doing the same at St Kilda with Dow and now Carroll.

I hope it is coincidence, and I hope Carroll is a player, I just don’t rate SOS at all.
His drafting at GWS was incredibly good what are you on about? He selected almost all of their current champion players. Besides those two years where he went a bit crazy with the GWS rejects, his record at Carlton was also tremendous, he turned that club around from where it was as one of the worse performing sides of the 2000's to where it is today. Cripps, Curnow, Mackay, Walsh and Weitering are all among his personal picks. Grossly underrated list manager.
Almost all of their champion players?
Absolute bulls***!
Name the players he picked that make up almost all of their current champions.

SOS was only at GWS for three years and here is a list of his incredibly good first round picks.
He then recruited 9 (yes 9) former GWS players to Carlton.

Yes there's a handful of good picks on the journey, but overall the first round recruiting during his tenure at GSW was the worst in AFL history and poor to average at Carlton, not to mention taking GWS fringe players.

GWS
#1 Jon Patton
#1 Tom Boyd
#2 Jono O'Rourke
#3 Dom Tyson
#3 Lachie Plowman
#4 Jarred Picket
#5 Matt Buntine
#5 Will Setterfield
#6 Caleb Marchbank
#6 Paul Ahern
#10 Liam Sumner
#12 Kristin Jacksh
#14 Aidan Corr

Carlton
#3 Dow
#4 Stocker (gave up #4 for #19)
#6 Sam Petrevski-Seton
#10 O'Brien
#17 Brodie Kemp
#19 Blaine Boekhurst

Then SOS doubled down on a swag of the guys who couldn't cut it at GWS and recruited them to Carlton, where he got the arse BTW despite being a club playing legend and part of the Carlton Royal family.

Great player, probably a ripping bloke but very ordinary history at GWS and Carlton.
Moronic post, you clearly have bias here. As you know the list you posted here is a cherry picked minority of GWS picks during his tenure. His strike rate at the blues and GWS in the first and second rounds is exceptional.

Name champion GWS players SOS selected? Try almost every good +100 gamer to ever player for the giants including (but not even slightly limited to); Congolio, Greene, Cameron, Hayes, Whitfield, Trealor, Hoskin Elliot, Taylor Adams, Kelly, Taranto, Tomlinson, Boyd (who contrary to your view was an exceptional player), Zac Williams, Nathan Wilson, Smith, Jack Steele, Lobb and settlefield.

Pretty handy list I would’ve thought.

The entire backbone of Carlton’s success in recent times is due to him. Almost all of their good current players he drafted or recruited.

Very ordinary history at Carlton and GWS? Again Moronic.


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Re: Jack Carroll

Post: # 2082028Post CURLY »

B.M wrote: Fri 08 Nov 2024 6:15pm Silvagni has a horrible strike rate. Not sure how he’s in a talent ID job?
Can be said about all of them.


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Re: Jack Carroll

Post: # 2082029Post Killa »

The question is, given the expertise a contributor to this site regales in why is this contributor an anonymous contributor on this site and not leading St Kilda’s recruitment assets (or any other Club)?

In regard the player recruited from Carlton, having been delisted by Carlton, I have no knowledge whatsoever - but trust in the employers of St Kilda FC to assess there is value for St Kilda

Obviously they have researched him

So instead of bagging what say we wait and see


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Re: Jack Carroll

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He played15 games this year. Carlton have rocks in their head delisting Owies who kicked 35 goals and keeping Motlop. I would have delisted Motlop instead. Whatever his reason and they all have one, was totally useless in 24. Maybe with the Camporeale twins and pick 3 there was just no room. Doesn't mean he's crap, but Motlop! :roll:
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Re: Jack Carroll

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Yep very surprising decision…..by Carlton.


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Re: Jack Carroll

Post: # 2082039Post bobmurray »

This site is a good resource, but, i always find an error, today's error, he has Cordy at 191cm.
Other sites, including the Saints, have him at 195cm. :oops:


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Re: Jack Carroll

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bobmurray wrote: Fri 08 Nov 2024 10:17pm
This site is a good resource, but, i always find an error, today's error, he has Cordy at 191cm.
Other sites, including the Saints, have him at 195cm. :oops:
That's what you call fake news!


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Re: Jack Carroll

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Nothing flash hope I'm bloody wrong another player who hangs out for the lucky hit


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Re: Jack Carroll

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Tommyj wrote: Fri 08 Nov 2024 11:06pm Nothing flash hope I'm bloody wrong another player who hangs out for the lucky hit
Plenty of those at Carlton!


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Re: Jack Carroll

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Who cares where he comes from if he turns into a decent player! My concern is he has had 4 years on their list without consolidating, lets hope he is a slow burner and becomes a player.


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Re: Jack Carroll

Post: # 2082046Post magnifisaint »

Here are his stats from 2024
GmOpponentRdKIMKHBDIGLBH
7Brisbane Lions1713101
8Richmond2841220
9North Melbourne4828161
10Fremantle510310201
11Adelaide62124
12Greater Western Sydney73169
13Geelong8423711
14Sydney114359
15Gold Coast122102
16Port Adelaide130011
17Essendon145205
18North Melbourne2092817
19Port Adelaide218519
20West Coast2463713
21St Kilda25751811
Totals15 (10-0-5)83356715043
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Re: Jack Carroll

Post: # 2082047Post nostalgicsaint »

Always happy to recruit players who have disposal efficiency and athleticism listed as strengths.

Fits what we are building, even if the player isn't a best 22 player.


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Re: Jack Carroll

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5 of those games were pretty good


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Re: Jack Carroll

Post: # 2082051Post Yorkeys »

Remember Maaasson Woood; delisted by North after yrs on its list, now a star with his own 2 word chant.
Nice work by Saints recruiting boffins.
Jaaack Caarrolll, now just need a tune to go with the words. More bluesy than Gregorian perhaps.


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Re: Jack Carroll

Post: # 2082057Post King Max »

Yorkeys wrote: Sat 09 Nov 2024 12:27am
Jaaack Caarrolll, now just need a tune to go with the words. More bluesy than Gregorian perhaps.


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Re: Jack Carroll

Post: # 2082058Post wally »

Mason Wood has been a very good pickup
Stocker has been good
Bonner got too many games then got the flick.
We have to try , although we obviously need top end talent we also need better fringe players.


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Re: Jack Carroll

Post: # 2082059Post SaintWiki »

Welcome to the Saints Jack. Will enjoy watching you reaching up to our current 'Jack' stocks and giving the naysayers a boot up the backside.


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Re: Jack Carroll

Post: # 2082060Post TheGreatZacsby »

magnifisaint wrote: Fri 08 Nov 2024 5:46pm Way too many f***wits on this site. I don't know anything of him but please stop making bulls*** up. So many are bagging Silvagni. The guy knows more about football than all of us put together. Get off his back.
I tend to agree!

You got to look at BOTH the ins and the outs. You can’t tell me that Carroll is not an upgrade on Hotton? If you don’t think so you then you don’t even know football and are a F-wit.

So many negative nellies. Everyone screams we need mids this is an effing mid we got FOR NOTHING!


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Re: Jack Carroll

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Yeah, it's a highlights reel but it shows why he was on the verge at Carlton, a decent midfield.

At 51% TOG, you can forgive the numbers.

If Seb Ross was capable of playing 15 games this year, you'd probably prefer to give this kid that chance.
He will develop a little ahead of Wilson and Phillipou, who by all accounts have been given every chance.
This is another top 25 pick, given the development he has done.
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Re: Jack Carroll

Post: # 2082064Post The Fireman »

Hmmmm


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Re: Jack Carroll

Post: # 2082065Post B.M »

I’ll tell you one thing

He’s better than Matt Allison from the same draft

Allison pick 26
Carroll pick 41


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