Maths is not my strong suit S_D but I can't work that out. Why is a simple 5 vote with no other votes skewing your count? When people can divide their 15 votes any way they like, why does only giving 5 to one player "change the entire count"?Sainter_Dad wrote: ↑Thu 14 Jul 2022 9:42pmLOL - sorry Scollop - I have NEVER counted single 5s - it skews the count too much - and in a vote tally that there were only 226 voted cast if two people cast votes as 5s only it can change the entire count.Scollop wrote: ↑Thu 14 Jul 2022 7:07pm You missed the 5 votes I gave Membrey… oh well my bad…I should have voted properly
Might have got Roma up against Seb… Not that it matters that much in the scheme of things…
Actually I’m joking. I think I would have had Steele, Battle, Crouch and Sinclair above Marshall.
You sir submitted a Donkey Vote!
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Pretty much knocking off work to cart bricks.Sainter_Dad wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 2:33pmLOL - it takes away from Crunching numbers all day - to ..... crunch numbers!bangaulegend wrote: ↑Thu 14 Jul 2022 9:48pmJust a quick message to say thanks Sainter Dad for doing an incredible job .Sainter_Dad wrote: ↑Thu 14 Jul 2022 9:42pmLOL - sorry Scollop - I have NEVER counted single 5s - it skews the count too much - and in a vote tally that there were only 226 voted cast if two people cast votes as 5s only it can change the entire count.Scollop wrote: ↑Thu 14 Jul 2022 7:07pm You missed the 5 votes I gave Membrey… oh well my bad…I should have voted properly
Might have got Roma up against Seb… Not that it matters that much in the scheme of things…
Actually I’m joking. I think I would have had Steele, Battle, Crouch and Sinclair above Marshall.
You sir submitted a Donkey Vote!
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LOL Ghost.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 8:31pmMaths is not my strong suit S_D but I can't work that out. Why is a simple 5 vote with no other votes skewing your count? When people can divide their 15 votes any way they like, why does only giving 5 to one player "change the entire count"?Sainter_Dad wrote: ↑Thu 14 Jul 2022 9:42pmLOL - sorry Scollop - I have NEVER counted single 5s - it skews the count too much - and in a vote tally that there were only 226 voted cast if two people cast votes as 5s only it can change the entire count.Scollop wrote: ↑Thu 14 Jul 2022 7:07pm You missed the 5 votes I gave Membrey… oh well my bad…I should have voted properly
Might have got Roma up against Seb… Not that it matters that much in the scheme of things…
Actually I’m joking. I think I would have had Steele, Battle, Crouch and Sinclair above Marshall.
You sir submitted a Donkey Vote!
The count was:
54 Battle
43 Crouch
28 Steele
20 Sinclair
17 Ross
15 Marshall
12 Jones
7 Butler
5 Billings
5 Ryder
5 Webster
4 Membrey
4 Wood
3 Higgins
2 Hill
2 King
lets say 4 people decide to just give 5 votes to Jones but none to others - He jumps to 32 and 3rd - but if they also allocate the other 10 votes it become more like an even distribution curve.
Similarly - 15 votes of 1 is basically a wasted vote
It is more vital to take this into account when there is a low vote count as the 5's become more precious.
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But that's their vote isn't it. You may pick one for 5 but the other 4 have no bearing whatsoever, would that be ignored? I notice you included votes for players that people were taking the p155 about. How is that different?Sainter_Dad wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 8:50pmLOL Ghost.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 8:31pmMaths is not my strong suit S_D but I can't work that out. Why is a simple 5 vote with no other votes skewing your count? When people can divide their 15 votes any way they like, why does only giving 5 to one player "change the entire count"?Sainter_Dad wrote: ↑Thu 14 Jul 2022 9:42pmLOL - sorry Scollop - I have NEVER counted single 5s - it skews the count too much - and in a vote tally that there were only 226 voted cast if two people cast votes as 5s only it can change the entire count.Scollop wrote: ↑Thu 14 Jul 2022 7:07pm You missed the 5 votes I gave Membrey… oh well my bad…I should have voted properly
Might have got Roma up against Seb… Not that it matters that much in the scheme of things…
Actually I’m joking. I think I would have had Steele, Battle, Crouch and Sinclair above Marshall.
You sir submitted a Donkey Vote!
The count was:
54 Battle
43 Crouch
28 Steele
20 Sinclair
17 Ross
15 Marshall
12 Jones
7 Butler
5 Billings
5 Ryder
5 Webster
4 Membrey
4 Wood
3 Higgins
2 Hill
2 King
lets say 4 people decide to just give 5 votes to Jones but none to others - He jumps to 32 and 3rd - but if they also allocate the other 10 votes it become more like an even distribution curve.
Similarly - 15 votes of 1 is basically a wasted vote
It is more vital to take this into account when there is a low vote count as the 5's become more precious.
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Sainter_Dad, I thought Wilkie's effort tonight (4 quarters) was the only one truly worthy of votes, all 5. Should I not be able to express that?
Having said that, I'll give my 5,4,3,2,1 because I don't believe in splitting votes.
Having said that, I'll give my 5,4,3,2,1 because I don't believe in splitting votes.
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I set the guidelines from my experience over the past 13(?) years of tallying the votes as below:Ghost Like wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:42pm Sainter_Dad, I thought Wilkie's effort tonight (4 quarters) was the only one truly worthy of votes, all 5. Should I not be able to express that?
Having said that, I'll give my 5,4,3,2,1 because I don't believe in splitting votes.
I think it is implied that a single vote will not be included - but if you would like I will make it clearer next time.Sainter_Dad wrote: ↑Sun 27 Mar 2022 7:44am Welcome to a new year of the Trophy
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I think it is implied that a single vote will not be included - but if you would like I will make it clearer next time.
Is this 5 for Jones?
If I count that and Membrey the votes change to:
54 Battle
43 Crouch
28 Steele
20 Sinclair
17 Ross
17 Jones
15 Marshall
9 Membrey
7 Butler
5 Billings
5 Ryder
5 Webster
4 Wood
3 Higgins
2 Hill
2 King
Therefore:
5 Battle
4 Crouch
3 Steele
2 Sinclair
.5 Ross
.5 Jones
Does splitting the 1 vote to two half votes mean that much when it opens the vote up to inconsistencies????
If you want to vote:Ghost Like wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:42pm Sainter_Dad, I thought Wilkie's effort tonight (4 quarters) was the only one truly worthy of votes, all 5. Should I not be able to express that?
Having said that, I'll give my 5,4,3,2,1 because I don't believe in splitting votes.
5 - Wilkie
and then distribute votes to 10 other players at 1 each - I cannot stop you - but as I said just voting 5 for one player skews the result
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