Changes for next week
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Re: Changes for next week
In the competition there are very experienced sides
We have just played one in Melbourne
We play another in Geelong next week, on the “fast deck” which is Docklands
We need to put our best side on the park for these games
The competition is very fractured at this stage with some sides off the pace - we have not played a side which is off the pace to date
Others have
We have just played one in Melbourne
We play another in Geelong next week, on the “fast deck” which is Docklands
We need to put our best side on the park for these games
The competition is very fractured at this stage with some sides off the pace - we have not played a side which is off the pace to date
Others have
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Big test for us after having the wind knocked out of our sails over the past two weeks, particularly against a seasoned club like Geelong that has mostly had our measure for years.
How we go will say a lot about our ultimate chances this year.
We’ll either 1) run the ageing and tired pussies off their feet or 2) go back into our shells and capitulate meekly. It had better be the former. We won’t win without taking the game on.
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Re: Changes for next week
Paton goes before Webster
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Long was good today his ball use one of the better ones what gave u at?
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Re: Changes for next week
Wood needs to go - hit n miss Billing’s replace
Butler - didn’t miss his pressure at all when he why off. If he can’t hit the scoreboard AND pressure..stay in the twos
Long forward as pressure
NWM - like the kid but gee 9 touches…not enough
I’d be tempted to lose Webster for Lienert or Highmore …
Midfield looks B grade (Steele ineffective imo) needs to badly get some class in
Butler - didn’t miss his pressure at all when he why off. If he can’t hit the scoreboard AND pressure..stay in the twos
Long forward as pressure
NWM - like the kid but gee 9 touches…not enough
I’d be tempted to lose Webster for Lienert or Highmore …
Midfield looks B grade (Steele ineffective imo) needs to badly get some class in
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Re: Changes for next week
Butler injured, Jones possible suspension.
Billings in Windhager to start. Lienert msub.
No need to make many changes. Effort was there. Dees premiers & 15 on the trot. We learnt plenty.
Billings in Windhager to start. Lienert msub.
No need to make many changes. Effort was there. Dees premiers & 15 on the trot. We learnt plenty.
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Re: Changes for next week
Jones was in the contest for the mark.
He didn't tunnel the guy, the Dee jumped at the wrong moment. Jones can't pull out, footy is a contact sport.
If you're talking about the ranga, Jones did a chest slap with his forearm.
Exactly like a fake wrestling smack which looks fearsome, but has little impact.
Ranga went weak at the knees through being gutless and trying to milk a free
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Re: Changes for next week
+1WellardSaint wrote: ↑Mon 09 May 2022 2:34amJones was in the contest for the mark.
He didn't tunnel the guy, the Dee jumped at the wrong moment. Jones can't pull out, footy is a contact sport.
If you're talking about the ranga, Jones did a chest slap with his forearm.
Exactly like a fake wrestling smack which looks fearsome, but has little impact.
Ranga went weak at the knees through being gutless and trying to milk a free
Just a a love tap to the chest as you say.
I watched the replay of the incident where the umpire got sucked in and paid a 50m penalty. Oliver needs to be fined for taking a dive
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I was thinking similarly: Paton and Wood were poor.
I'd bring in Highmore and Byrnes to replace them.
We do need someone with Wood-style running ability. Not sure if Byrnes has that yet, but Wood's ball use was abysmal.
Paton was generally abysmal.
If Butler misses, too, Clark or Connolly in
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Re: Changes for next week
Why? Webster was on Pickett. Paton was very solid yesterday, as he has been for the previous couple of weeks.
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Re: Changes for next week
Butler
Higgins
King (4 touches?)
Crouch (got 27 touches but I cannot recall many of them, strangely)
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Re: Changes for next week
I think we need an injection of skill, goalkicking capacity, replacements for tired players, and experience after a tough campaign over the first 8 rounds.
I won't mention players who I think should have a rest, but I think Billings can come straight in, as could Clark, they are both best 22.
I also think Byrnes' form warrants a recall, and I would consider bringing in Cooper Sharman as we haven't been converting the past three games.
I won't mention players who I think should have a rest, but I think Billings can come straight in, as could Clark, they are both best 22.
I also think Byrnes' form warrants a recall, and I would consider bringing in Cooper Sharman as we haven't been converting the past three games.
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Re: Changes for next week
The score was 56 to 9 very very early on in the game. The leading possession getter for the Saints at this time was Brad Crouch.WellardSaint wrote: ↑Mon 09 May 2022 9:45amButler
Higgins
King (4 touches?)
Crouch (got 27 touches but I cannot recall many of them, strangely)
That’s 9-2 to our score of 1-3 and Melbourne had got out to a 47 point lead at the 6 or 7 minute mark of the second quarter!! Brad Crouch is Seb Ross Version II. He had 20 odd insignificant and inconsequential possessions when we were nearly 8 goals down!!
I’m not saying Crouch was bad all day, but I don’t think he deserves the votes people are giving him. 2/3rds of his possessions were junk and we were getting pantsed!! He needs to be cleaner with his possessions out of a stoppage and target a team mate when there’s congestion or he needs to get metres gained and actually clear the footy.
Why do people think that it means anything to get a rushed grubber or a half smothered 15 metre kick to no one. Crouch worked hard all day, but he gets possessions when he is stationary and he’s usually hand-balling to someone in close or he’s used for the 1-2 run and carry from Jones, Sinclair, Steele or Ross.
Have a look at the saintsational votes. There’s a lot of people who check the stat sheet before voting. In my book that is just crap. Sure, use the stats as a reference point for tackle numbers, for score involvements or other details like disposal efficiency and clangers, but people need to start having a feel for the game.
Our mids as a whole were slaughtered. Paddy Ryder started wining a few tap outs in the 3rd and 4th quarter, but early in the game when the heat was on, I think he was getting beaten too! Gresham also had a real stinker in my book and has to compose himself when he has time and space for those all important inside 50’s.
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Re: Changes for next week
There's an obvious pattern, that we're refusing to see/acknowledge.
We need to start realising that small specialist forwards get monstered in big, pressure games - they just don't get a look in.
We've seen it time and again.
I'd be tempted to leave out both Higgins and Butler for slightly bigger-bodied players from now on - because, even if we make the finals, they are not going to get the job done - and will be our weak link.
I'd be playing Owens instead of Butler.
We need to start realising that small specialist forwards get monstered in big, pressure games - they just don't get a look in.
We've seen it time and again.
I'd be tempted to leave out both Higgins and Butler for slightly bigger-bodied players from now on - because, even if we make the finals, they are not going to get the job done - and will be our weak link.
I'd be playing Owens instead of Butler.
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Re: Changes for next week
Billings, Sharman, Highmore, Lienert IN.
Webster, Windy, Butler, Paton OUT
Webster, Windy, Butler, Paton OUT
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Re: Changes for next week
Key Matchups
Hawkins - Howard
Cameron - Battle
Stengle - Paton
Knevitt - Highmore
Miers - Long
Blicavs - Ryder
Kolojashnij - Marshall
Tuohy - Higgins
Stewart - Membrey
De Koning - King
Dangerfield - Steele
Duncan - Crouch
Parfitt - Byrnes
Guthrie - Jones
Smith - McKenzie
Narkle - Billings
Stephenson - Wood
OConnor - Owens or Sharmann
Z Guthrie - Sinclair
Out: Webster, Wanganeen-Milera (rest), Gresham (inj) & Butler (inj)
Ins: Highmore, Byrnes, Billings, Owens or Sharman
Highmore bets the nod over Lienert because he can drop off and intercept in front of Hawkins & Cameron. Lienert as sub.
Hawkins - Howard
Cameron - Battle
Stengle - Paton
Knevitt - Highmore
Miers - Long
Blicavs - Ryder
Kolojashnij - Marshall
Tuohy - Higgins
Stewart - Membrey
De Koning - King
Dangerfield - Steele
Duncan - Crouch
Parfitt - Byrnes
Guthrie - Jones
Smith - McKenzie
Narkle - Billings
Stephenson - Wood
OConnor - Owens or Sharmann
Z Guthrie - Sinclair
Out: Webster, Wanganeen-Milera (rest), Gresham (inj) & Butler (inj)
Ins: Highmore, Byrnes, Billings, Owens or Sharman
Highmore bets the nod over Lienert because he can drop off and intercept in front of Hawkins & Cameron. Lienert as sub.
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Re: Changes for next week
Iwould put Wilke on Cameron cant let him get of the leashImpatient Sainter wrote: ↑Mon 09 May 2022 7:14pm Key Matchups
Hawkins - Howard
Cameron - Battle
Stengle - Paton
Knevitt - Highmore
Miers - Long
Blicavs - Ryder
Kolojashnij - Marshall
Tuohy - Higgins
Stewart - Membrey
De Koning - King
Dangerfield - Steele
Duncan - Crouch
Parfitt - Byrnes
Guthrie - Jones
Smith - McKenzie
Narkle - Billings
Stephenson - Wood
OConnor - Owens or Sharmann
Z Guthrie - Sinclair
Out: Webster, Wanganeen-Milera (rest), Gresham (inj) & Butler (inj)
Ins: Highmore, Byrnes, Billings, Owens or Sharman
Highmore bets the nod over Lienert because he can drop off and intercept in front of Hawkins & Cameron. Lienert as sub.
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Re: Changes for next week
Clark for Wood
Billings for Butler
Despite the loss I don't think anyone is worthy of being dropped on form, but Clark and Billings are must ins.
Billings for Butler
Despite the loss I don't think anyone is worthy of being dropped on form, but Clark and Billings are must ins.
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Re: Changes for next week
I thought Crouch was our best mid better than Steele tbhWellardSaint wrote: ↑Mon 09 May 2022 9:45amButler
Higgins
King (4 touches?)
Crouch (got 27 touches but I cannot recall many of them, strangely)
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Re: Changes for next week
From all reports Clark was a bit rusty at Sandi, I don't see the point in rushing him back. Give another week at VFL level then be cherry ripe for the Adelaide game.
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Re: Changes for next week
The change I'd like to see is we come out and are not intimidated by Geelong. Really put it to them. And not be pathetic with chances on goal.
Too often we are meek, wait for them to run all over us. Almost apologise and slow down if we are on top at times.
They are not as good as us, but I am not sure our players and coaches know it. If they beat us at least hurt them because you cant lose three in a row and consider yourself a serious contender for top 4.
We were soft against Port and Melbourne. You can play below your ability but at least get a reputation for being hard. May treated some of our players with contempt and got away with it. Didn't like the look of that.
Too often we are meek, wait for them to run all over us. Almost apologise and slow down if we are on top at times.
They are not as good as us, but I am not sure our players and coaches know it. If they beat us at least hurt them because you cant lose three in a row and consider yourself a serious contender for top 4.
We were soft against Port and Melbourne. You can play below your ability but at least get a reputation for being hard. May treated some of our players with contempt and got away with it. Didn't like the look of that.
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Re: Changes for next week
May is an arsehole. Nasty with it too. My opinion of him hasn'tYorkeys wrote: ↑Mon 09 May 2022 8:59pm The change I'd like to see is we come out and are not intimidated by Geelong. Really put it to them. And not be pathetic with chances on goal.
Too often we are meek, wait for them to run all over us. Almost apologise and slow down if we are on top at times.
They are not as good as us, but I am not sure our players and coaches know it. If they beat us at least hurt them because you cant lose three in a row and consider yourself a serious contender for top 4.
We were soft against Port and Melbourne. You can play below your ability but at least get a reputation for being hard. May treated some of our players with contempt and got away with it. Didn't like the look of that.
changed especially after watching him on" on the couch'.