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Re: Votes v Hawks
5. Rowan Marshall - verging on elite status, likely make the expanded AA squad this year if not the team..
4. Jack Steele - a real chance for Brownlow given he is playing in a team of few real stars
3. Zak Jones - love his aggression, a real "attack dog", gives his all
2. Ben Long - never takes a backward step, can play all over the ground, x-factor
1. Nick Coffield - has become a really dependable defender, follows the play well, intercepts regularly and disposes efficiently
4. Jack Steele - a real chance for Brownlow given he is playing in a team of few real stars
3. Zak Jones - love his aggression, a real "attack dog", gives his all
2. Ben Long - never takes a backward step, can play all over the ground, x-factor
1. Nick Coffield - has become a really dependable defender, follows the play well, intercepts regularly and disposes efficiently
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Re: Votes v Hawks
He is some player, isn’t he.
Such confidence and swagger. I love it. He’s a modern-day Keith Miller.
So where do you play him?
It seems that he is good enough to be a first-rate power forward, ruckman or an extra tall ruck rover.
You could make a decent argument for any of the above. I think he could hold down CHB if you needed him to.
If only we could clone him.
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Re: Votes v Hawks
I'd like to know why neither of those could include Long. Especially Saints.com, apparently Long not in the best 8 players???
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Re: Votes v Hawks
Long definitely in the top ten players.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Mon 07 Sep 2020 3:46pmI'd like to know why neither of those could include Long. Especially Saints.com, apparently Long not in the best 8 players???
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Re: Votes v Hawks
It is obvious from the coaches votes that you and I are in the knowledgable minority .
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Re: Votes v Hawks
Obviously watching a game of footy is very different from a fan and supporter viewpoint versus coaches.
Coaches love stats. They have to look at stats throughout a match. They have no choice. Therefore, I reckon a majority of coaches look at the final stat sheet prior to giving coaches association votes.
It isn’t obvious....but I also reckon that many fans and supporters look at stats prior to giving votes
I think you either have a habit of not looking at stats and judging the game on what you see, or you are a person who needs the stats to make your final decision.
Personally, I prefer to rate players on their impact. I loved it when DownAtTheJunction was giving his impact scores each match. It was a very good numerical style of method of rating a player without just counting pure disposals.
If you do look at final stats before voting, it’s difficult to fight your eyes and you think back to the match and remember seeing a player with footy in hand on several occasions. Your brain is telling you that if he was in possession several times, no wonder he had so many disposals. Problem is that you probably don’t remember the quality of all those possessions.
In summary, it makes sense that people and some coaches may be influenced by stats when giving votes. Our brain is telling us not to ignore a player if they have the most disposals, regardless of their impact.
Coaches love stats. They have to look at stats throughout a match. They have no choice. Therefore, I reckon a majority of coaches look at the final stat sheet prior to giving coaches association votes.
It isn’t obvious....but I also reckon that many fans and supporters look at stats prior to giving votes
I think you either have a habit of not looking at stats and judging the game on what you see, or you are a person who needs the stats to make your final decision.
Personally, I prefer to rate players on their impact. I loved it when DownAtTheJunction was giving his impact scores each match. It was a very good numerical style of method of rating a player without just counting pure disposals.
If you do look at final stats before voting, it’s difficult to fight your eyes and you think back to the match and remember seeing a player with footy in hand on several occasions. Your brain is telling you that if he was in possession several times, no wonder he had so many disposals. Problem is that you probably don’t remember the quality of all those possessions.
In summary, it makes sense that people and some coaches may be influenced by stats when giving votes. Our brain is telling us not to ignore a player if they have the most disposals, regardless of their impact.
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Re: Votes v Hawks
What utter unadulterated rubbish. Do you just make up this s*** to try and justify your hatred of Ross. f****** pathetic.Scollop wrote: ↑Tue 08 Sep 2020 6:51pm Obviously watching a game of footy is very different from a fan and supporter viewpoint versus coaches.
Coaches love stats. They have to look at stats throughout a match. They have no choice. Therefore, I reckon a majority of coaches look at the final stat sheet prior to giving coaches association votes.
It isn’t obvious....but I also reckon that many fans and supporters look at stats prior to giving votes
I think you either have a habit of not looking at stats and judging the game on what you see, or you are a person who needs the stats to make your final decision.
Personally, I prefer to rate players on their impact. I loved it when DownAtTheJunction was giving his impact scores each match. It was a very good numerical style of method of rating a player without just counting pure disposals.
If you do look at final stats before voting, it’s difficult to fight your eyes and you think back to the match and remember seeing a player with footy in hand on several occasions. Your brain is telling you that if he was in possession several times, no wonder he had so many disposals. Problem is that you probably don’t remember the quality of all those possessions.
In summary, it makes sense that people and some coaches may be influenced by stats when giving votes. Our brain is telling us not to ignore a player if they have the most disposals, regardless of their impact.
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Re: Votes v Hawks
103 Marshall
65 Long
40.5 Steele
39 Hill
38 Coffield
29 Jones
19 Ryder
11 Ross
8.5 Sinclair
4 Howard
3 Kent
Therefore:
5 Marshall
4 Long
3 Steele
2 Hill
1 Coffield
65 Long
40.5 Steele
39 Hill
38 Coffield
29 Jones
19 Ryder
11 Ross
8.5 Sinclair
4 Howard
3 Kent
Therefore:
5 Marshall
4 Long
3 Steele
2 Hill
1 Coffield
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Re: Votes v Hawks
It’s a general post for discussion and just just my opinion. I’m not specifically referring to Seb. Did I mention Ross at all in my post?saynta wrote: ↑Tue 08 Sep 2020 8:01pmWhat utter unadulterated rubbish. Do you just make up this s*** to try and justify your hatred of Ross. f****** pathetic.Scollop wrote: ↑Tue 08 Sep 2020 6:51pm Obviously watching a game of footy is very different from a fan and supporter viewpoint versus coaches.
Coaches love stats. They have to look at stats throughout a match. They have no choice. Therefore, I reckon a majority of coaches look at the final stat sheet prior to giving coaches association votes.
It isn’t obvious....but I also reckon that many fans and supporters look at stats prior to giving votes
I think you either have a habit of not looking at stats and judging the game on what you see, or you are a person who needs the stats to make your final decision.
Personally, I prefer to rate players on their impact. I loved it when DownAtTheJunction was giving his impact scores each match. It was a very good numerical style of method of rating a player without just counting pure disposals.
If you do look at final stats before voting, it’s difficult to fight your eyes and you think back to the match and remember seeing a player with footy in hand on several occasions. Your brain is telling you that if he was in possession several times, no wonder he had so many disposals. Problem is that you probably don’t remember the quality of all those possessions.
In summary, it makes sense that people and some coaches may be influenced by stats when giving votes. Our brain is telling us not to ignore a player if they have the most disposals, regardless of their impact.
I don’t hate Ross, so don’t make up stuff either
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Re: Votes v Hawks
Stick by what I posted.Scollop wrote: ↑Tue 08 Sep 2020 8:39pmIt’s a general post for discussion and just just my opinion. I’m not specifically referring to Seb. Did I mention Ross at all in my post?saynta wrote: ↑Tue 08 Sep 2020 8:01pmWhat utter unadulterated rubbish. Do you just make up this s*** to try and justify your hatred of Ross. f****** pathetic.Scollop wrote: ↑Tue 08 Sep 2020 6:51pm Obviously watching a game of footy is very different from a fan and supporter viewpoint versus coaches.
Coaches love stats. They have to look at stats throughout a match. They have no choice. Therefore, I reckon a majority of coaches look at the final stat sheet prior to giving coaches association votes.
It isn’t obvious....but I also reckon that many fans and supporters look at stats prior to giving votes
I think you either have a habit of not looking at stats and judging the game on what you see, or you are a person who needs the stats to make your final decision.
Personally, I prefer to rate players on their impact. I loved it when DownAtTheJunction was giving his impact scores each match. It was a very good numerical style of method of rating a player without just counting pure disposals.
If you do look at final stats before voting, it’s difficult to fight your eyes and you think back to the match and remember seeing a player with footy in hand on several occasions. Your brain is telling you that if he was in possession several times, no wonder he had so many disposals. Problem is that you probably don’t remember the quality of all those possessions.
In summary, it makes sense that people and some coaches may be influenced by stats when giving votes. Our brain is telling us not to ignore a player if they have the most disposals, regardless of their impact.
I don’t hate Ross, so don’t make up stuff either
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Re: Votes v Hawks
That's good. I like a man who sticks by his guns. Ya have to have integrity, is what I saysaynta wrote: ↑Tue 08 Sep 2020 9:21pmStick by what I posted.Scollop wrote: ↑Tue 08 Sep 2020 8:39pmIt’s a general post for discussion and just just my opinion. I’m not specifically referring to Seb. Did I mention Ross at all in my post?saynta wrote: ↑Tue 08 Sep 2020 8:01pmWhat utter unadulterated rubbish. Do you just make up this s*** to try and justify your hatred of Ross. f****** pathetic.Scollop wrote: ↑Tue 08 Sep 2020 6:51pm Obviously watching a game of footy is very different from a fan and supporter viewpoint versus coaches.
Coaches love stats. They have to look at stats throughout a match. They have no choice. Therefore, I reckon a majority of coaches look at the final stat sheet prior to giving coaches association votes.
It isn’t obvious....but I also reckon that many fans and supporters look at stats prior to giving votes
I think you either have a habit of not looking at stats and judging the game on what you see, or you are a person who needs the stats to make your final decision.
Personally, I prefer to rate players on their impact. I loved it when DownAtTheJunction was giving his impact scores each match. It was a very good numerical style of method of rating a player without just counting pure disposals.
If you do look at final stats before voting, it’s difficult to fight your eyes and you think back to the match and remember seeing a player with footy in hand on several occasions. Your brain is telling you that if he was in possession several times, no wonder he had so many disposals. Problem is that you probably don’t remember the quality of all those possessions.
In summary, it makes sense that people and some coaches may be influenced by stats when giving votes. Our brain is telling us not to ignore a player if they have the most disposals, regardless of their impact.
I don’t hate Ross, so don’t make up stuff either
Is Ross 197cm?
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Re: Votes v Hawks
That's what the guy said.Scollop wrote: ↑Wed 09 Sep 2020 2:01amThat's good. I like a man who sticks by his guns. Ya have to have integrity, is what I saysaynta wrote: ↑Tue 08 Sep 2020 9:21pmStick by what I posted.Scollop wrote: ↑Tue 08 Sep 2020 8:39pmIt’s a general post for discussion and just just my opinion. I’m not specifically referring to Seb. Did I mention Ross at all in my post?saynta wrote: ↑Tue 08 Sep 2020 8:01pmWhat utter unadulterated rubbish. Do you just make up this s*** to try and justify your hatred of Ross. f****** pathetic.Scollop wrote: ↑Tue 08 Sep 2020 6:51pm Obviously watching a game of footy is very different from a fan and supporter viewpoint versus coaches.
Coaches love stats. They have to look at stats throughout a match. They have no choice. Therefore, I reckon a majority of coaches look at the final stat sheet prior to giving coaches association votes.
It isn’t obvious....but I also reckon that many fans and supporters look at stats prior to giving votes
I think you either have a habit of not looking at stats and judging the game on what you see, or you are a person who needs the stats to make your final decision.
Personally, I prefer to rate players on their impact. I loved it when DownAtTheJunction was giving his impact scores each match. It was a very good numerical style of method of rating a player without just counting pure disposals.
If you do look at final stats before voting, it’s difficult to fight your eyes and you think back to the match and remember seeing a player with footy in hand on several occasions. Your brain is telling you that if he was in possession several times, no wonder he had so many disposals. Problem is that you probably don’t remember the quality of all those possessions.
In summary, it makes sense that people and some coaches may be influenced by stats when giving votes. Our brain is telling us not to ignore a player if they have the most disposals, regardless of their impact.
I don’t hate Ross, so don’t make up stuff either
Is Ross 197cm?
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Honestly I have not seen the Coach's votes. I watch the game first, then I check out the Stats & Supercoach scores. Still good to know we are on the ball
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