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No d**khead policy and ........... we don't need him
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Get him for 36. Take it or leave it Lions. At that price, with his salary partially paid for, he's a bargain. With a different environment, a coach like AR and our leadership team, I reckon he'd thrive. Plenty of dickheads have played in premierships, or pulled their heads in when on their last chance, Martin Pike, Brian Lake, Matthew Scarlett come to mind. Back ourselves in on this one.
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Everyone assumes he's a thumping d**khead. How do we know it's not Zorko.bigred wrote:He's a good player.
But just a thumping dick head.
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Gone to Bali !! - whats Bali giving us in return ?
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Devilhead wrote:No d**khead policy and ........... we don't need him
I don't get this mentality... Andrew McQualter was a consummate professional. How did that help us in the 09 Grandfinal?
Pick 36, guaranteed straight inti the starting 18 getting 25+ possessions every week
If Rocky is so baaaad an influence that he can destabilise our entire club... than what we've built must be a house of cards
I get the culture thing but why not back ourselves to turn him around?
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Coaches that can extract the football player from the d**khead have a massive advantage.
*Allegedly.
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Very good postWhite Winmar wrote:Get him for 36. Take it or leave it Lions. At that price, with his salary partially paid for, he's a bargain. With a different environment, a coach like AR and our leadership team, I reckon he'd thrive. Plenty of dickheads have played in premierships, or pulled their heads in when on their last chance, Martin Pike, Brian Lake, Matthew Scarlett come to mind. Back ourselves in on this one.
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Good one PluggerThe_President wrote:stonecold wrote:Why have all the so-called ITK's disappeared at such an important time?????
Makes me wonder?????
This game is old.
If you have information then just share it. Stop taking potshots at everyone else.
I got warnings for constantly taking the piss out of you whenever you posted, yet you can keep posting garbage.
If you have information just share it. And then allow me to point out how far off the mark you were
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I think they will be working on one who has just had a season off. Don't need another.satchmo wrote:Coaches that can extract the football player from the d**khead have a massive advantage.
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Fairly common knowledge up here he barely mixed with teammates, barely acknowledged the younger players, amongst other things, and he was supposedly the Captain, understandable why Leppa no longer has a gig, one of his many dubious decisionsstonecold wrote:As I stated a while back, he's a bad egg and Carries too much baggage, ask Zorko!!!!!Wombat15 wrote:Can someone explain to my why we don't want rocky. Apparently Lions will accept a second rounder and will pay up to 25% of his salary. I heard Carlton turned this down but i get where the point of their list is it. But if this is what the lions want, why not do it?
PresidentRocky really!!!!!
Certainly not the type of player we need.
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I wasn't talking about this year.Playon wrote:There is no way on Earth that'd we'd trade for Fyfe this year, We just dont have the currency. Do the mathstonecold wrote:Yes, I know!!!!!saynta wrote:stonecold wrote:So Jax, you say, no Nat, this year or next, so who is our new big fish then?????
Cause we have placed ourselves for a bigfish with our trade strategy, that's obvious for all to see, it's either this week or next year, so who is it? Come On Jax!!!!!
Nat's not off our radar mate, despite others posting to the contrary.
It's just a case of which Bigfish we want!!!!!
Bains said on SEN today that our interest in Fyfe is overstated.
If you go to any opposition forum, they all think they should trade for Fyfe.
jaxons has already said we're not trading for Fyfe, he's also mentioned who were more interested in. Sometimes you need to read earlier posts not just the last page.
No itk on any forums has suggested we'll trade for Fyfe this year or next.
For us to trade for Fyfe in any year goes against our current list strategy.
12 months in football is a LONG time as far as list management goes, anything could happen. How did JOM pan out? How is JOM still panning out.
And you are wrong. Someone really in the know has given you a wink about Fyfe as a free agent next year.
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OK how about this then .............. We don't need him .................. We have others who can play his roleskeptic wrote:Devilhead wrote:No d**khead policy and ........... we don't need him
I don't get this mentality... Andrew McQualter was a consummate professional. How did that help us in the 09 Grandfinal?
Pick 36, guaranteed straight inti the starting 18 getting 25+ possessions every week
If Rocky is so baaaad an influence that he can destabilise our entire club... than what we've built must be a house of cards
I get the culture thing but why not back ourselves to turn him around?
Would much prefer to spend the money we would pay him on another player
Interesting to note that not one other club has jumped at the chance to pick him up ........... says it all IMO
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doug booths dog wrote:Gone to Bali !! - whats Bali giving us in return ?
maybe Schapelle & Mercedes Corby
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Based on Jaxons post a while back we are after Josh Kelly.
Just thinking this should be the big fish
Contracted till end of next year gws might trade for this guy if they feel he will be looks go home...could we trade our 2 first rounds picks in 2017 for him??
Is that overs?? I think he is a gun?? Gws keep picks for academy players next year..
Then we can trade our second rounder this year and a player for a pick in the top ten....?
So pick 12 and 18 in 2017 for Kelly
Just thinking this should be the big fish
Contracted till end of next year gws might trade for this guy if they feel he will be looks go home...could we trade our 2 first rounds picks in 2017 for him??
Is that overs?? I think he is a gun?? Gws keep picks for academy players next year..
Then we can trade our second rounder this year and a player for a pick in the top ten....?
So pick 12 and 18 in 2017 for Kelly
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Here is a photo of Ameet Bains on a recent fishing tripThe Recruit wrote:Based on Jaxons post a while back we are after Josh Kelly.
Just thinking this should be the big fish
Contracted till end of next year gws might trade for this guy if they feel he will be looks go home...could we trade our 2 first rounds picks in 2017 for him??
Is that overs?? I think he is a gun?? Gws keep picks for academy players next year..
Then we can trade our second rounder this year and a player for a pick in the top ten....?
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hope he is not walking over any bridges while in baliDWOODROW wrote:Yep was sore. Getting on top of it butDevilhead wrote:longtimesaint wrote:Very happy to hear that.DWOODROW wrote:He's going nowhere mateDevilhead wrote:DWOODROW wrote:Yep got some breaking news. He's gone..............Devilhead wrote:Hey DWOOD I see you are online
How's Dave travelling?
Bit of a talk about him last week linking him to Carlton or back up North - any news you want to share?
To Bali for a holiday.
Yep good to hear - fighting fit? Seemed to be hobbled a bit this year?
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A fit and firing Fyfe is worth two top top 5 draft picks and $1.5m a year.
We have neither.
Kelly or Shiel on the other hand.... are more gettable imo.
We have neither.
Kelly or Shiel on the other hand.... are more gettable imo.
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yeah but that didnt stop us from giving a contract to carlisle for a hell of lot higher pricebigred wrote:He's a good player.
But just a thumping dick head.
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apart from the fact i dont think he is leavingCon Gorozidis wrote:A fit and firing Fyfe is worth two top top 5 draft picks and $1.5m a year.
We have neither.
Kelly or Shiel on the other hand.... are more gettable imo.
why do we like injury affected "imports' - now Dangerfield on the other hand
Kelly and Shiel seem a good fit to me
But Im just a NFI in a world of ITK's and will bow to Saynta saying it is so
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Nevermind his personality...
Gets heaps of it, does nothing with it
Can that be rectified or is he just an accumulator?
Hang on, maybe it speaks to his personality...me, me, me?
Gets heaps of it, does nothing with it
Can that be rectified or is he just an accumulator?
Hang on, maybe it speaks to his personality...me, me, me?
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Shiel is a local to the area so i could see the appeal of coming back. Kelly has drawn interest from North and the Dons. Would happily give 3 first rounders (2x2017, 1x2018) for the two of them if possible and get them both on hefty pay packets.
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Really Sainter K... he gets lots of ball so therefore he's selfish?SainterK wrote:Nevermind his personality...
Gets heaps of it, does nothing with it
Can that be rectified or is he just an accumulator?
Hang on, maybe it speaks to his personality...me, me, me?
Do you really think a football playing style is an accurate reflection of someone's personality?
Geee Nick Riewoldt misses set shots... i bet he also misses goals in life too
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The whole Rockliff thing seems odd. Either there is more to it - or it just one of those vicious rumour things that has got out of hand.
I have NFI. But I guess we do have an 'insider' in Billy Longer... So maybe there is something in it. It seems odd than all 17 clubs are steering clear.
I mean I dont think we need him (Armo, Ross in that position already) but some clubs like the Crows, Pies, Blues or Tiges you would think would love to have him?
I have NFI. But I guess we do have an 'insider' in Billy Longer... So maybe there is something in it. It seems odd than all 17 clubs are steering clear.
I mean I dont think we need him (Armo, Ross in that position already) but some clubs like the Crows, Pies, Blues or Tiges you would think would love to have him?
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In 2017 we get our own first round draft pick and we already have Hawthorn's first round draft pick.The Recruit wrote:Based on Jaxons post a while back we are after Josh Kelly.
Just thinking this should be the big fish
Contracted till end of next year gws might trade for this guy if they feel he will be looks go home...could we trade our 2 first rounds picks in 2017 for him??
Is that overs?? I think he is a gun?? Gws keep picks for academy players next year..
Then we can trade our second rounder this year and a player for a pick in the top ten....?
So pick 12 and 18 in 2017 for Kelly
Let's assume we finish at 9th again, we get pick 10 again initially worth 1,395 points
Lets assume Hawthorn finish 5th again, we get their pick 14 initially worth 1,161 points
But lets assume that both picks slip 2 places due to academy picks.
That makes them 1,268pts and 1,067pts = 2,335 points total
Those picks improve if Hawthorn and St Kilda slip down the ladder but become less value if both finish higher.
Now Kelly was taken at number 2 in the 2013 draft but that draft had already had Jack Martin (Gold Coast) and Jesse Hogan (Melbourne) stripped out of it as 17 year olds in the 2012 mini draft.
That realistically makes Kelly a pick 4 and Jack Billings a pick 5.
Pick 1 is worth 3,000pts
Pick 2 is worth 2,517pts
Pick 3 is worth 2,234pts
Pick 4 is worth 2,034pts
Kelly is now a proven player he would be well worth at least 2,335 points = pick 2.65
Kelly would need to be keen to return home and nominate the Saints for such a deal to occur.
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