Lovett got off because he was not guilty of rape, simple as that!St Lenny wrote:Charges were never made at the time. WHat worries me is that the law has changed since then. THe girls were drunk, at the time that didn't matter, now it does. THough its still beyond me how Lovett got off, the dog.Selhurst Saint wrote:Hasn't there already been a civil case re this matter? What was the result?tweedaletomanning wrote:If he's guilty, then there is no escape, he'll have to serve his time. However if he is innocent, then he needs to sue the absolute crap out of the accuser/s
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CURLY wrote:ace wrote:Sounds more like Milne is a victim of political correctness.
The original investigation seems to have been tainted so to prove that everything is above reproach he must be charged and then found innocent.
Of course the legal profession won't complain, they bill exhorbitant amounts to who ever gets caught in their net.
The real victims are the innocent who then get bankrupted and have their careers destroyed proving their innocence.
Prosecutors don't have to pay court costs or damages because of their wrong prosecutions, they go home to their marble clad palaces.
This is pretty much what the guy on Triple M said this morning Andrew Rool who does a legal report evry so often. Seems by sending it to court it will put a end to the claims of corruption.
In a nutshell, the cops stuffed up. It happens all the time.
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ace wrote:Sounds more like Milne is a victim of political correctness.
The original investigation seems to have been tainted so to prove that everything is above reproach he must be charged and then found innocent.
Of course the legal profession won't complain, they bill exhorbitant amounts to who ever gets caught in their net.
The real victims are the innocent who then get bankrupted and have their careers destroyed proving their innocence.
Prosecutors don't have to pay court costs or damages because of their wrong prosecutions, they go home to their marble clad palaces.
Dislike correcting someone, but I think you mean "political".
Prosecutors are State Govt employees. They do not get paid that well.
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no better than 50/50 i would think..FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:According to The Age the Sexual Crimes Squad consulted the Office of Public Prosecutions prior to charges beilg laid, so I would think there has to be a reasonable chance of conviction.stinger wrote:FQF wrote:The prosecution would not take this case to court all these years later if they did not think that they had at least a reasonable chance of a conviction.
But I would be very surprised if he is actually convicted.
the police have charged him......don't know what the prosecution thinks at this stage.....
Expect Milne to be stood down.
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pretty sensible post....mullet wrote:To the policeman who took it upon himself to pervert the course of justice 10 years ago, I hope you are proud of yourself. You need to come forward and explain how you felt you needed to play , judge and jury and interfere, only to impact all parties 10 years later. Please explain how you did this your self and you werent forced by the club or Milne, which is what a lot of people think happened. This should have been dealt with 10 years ago, and maybe Milne would not have had to put up with the crap he has, the alleged victim could have got on with her life, and the club wouldnt be dragged through the mud again. Or Milne would have served his time, the alleged victim would have had her day in court. But you decided you would deal with it your self, what an ego. How dare you think you were bigger than everyone else, look at destruction you have now caused.
Where are you hero?
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lovett got off because a jury didn't believe...beyond all reasonable doubt ...... that he was quilty of rape....different thing.....Moorabbin Man wrote: Lovett got off because he was not guilty of rape, simple as that!
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yeah...forgot about the bye....might need to apologise to our ceo.....Richter wrote:Unbelievable, he must have missed the Saints game last weekend too...White Winmar wrote:Spending some of his $750k salary. i sincerely hope he's overseas on club business, but somehow i doubt it.stinger wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 2ofzh.html
'St Kilda chief Michael Nettlefold, who is overseas, had not returned calls from The Age and the AFL indicated it would release a statement regarding the charges later on Tuesday."
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So true, St.Pav, and unfortunately I speak from experience. It comes down to the "occam's razor" theory. The theory with the least amount of assumptions should be selected. In other words, all things considered, the simplest and most obvious explanation is the best. So, in this case, I'm backing incompetence over conspiracy.SaintPav wrote:CURLY wrote:ace wrote:Sounds more like Milne is a victim of political correctness.
The original investigation seems to have been tainted so to prove that everything is above reproach he must be charged and then found innocent.
Of course the legal profession won't complain, they bill exhorbitant amounts to who ever gets caught in their net.
The real victims are the innocent who then get bankrupted and have their careers destroyed proving their innocence.
Prosecutors don't have to pay court costs or damages because of their wrong prosecutions, they go home to their marble clad palaces.
This is pretty much what the guy on Triple M said this morning Andrew Rool who does a legal report evry so often. Seems by sending it to court it will put a end to the claims of corruption.
In a nutshell, the cops stuffed up. It happens all the time.
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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 2ohk7.html
well...that settles that argument...up to afl now...and we know what they are going to say.....![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
well...that settles that argument...up to afl now...and we know what they are going to say.....
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Greg Westaway Presser this afternoon. AFLPA have also cleared him to play !!stinger wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 2ohk7.html
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Not yet, and I'll be out in the car for the rest of the day so won't be able to give you the Heads Up !!matrix wrote:any clue on what time the presser is eastern?
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I do vaguely remember this...Moorabbin Man wrote: Has everyone forgotten that the details of the allegations were leaked/published back in 2004. The allegations even if true, are NOT sexual assault. The Police or DPP are drawing an extremely long bow and therefore the complainant is either extremely sensitive if she genuinely believes she was violated (which I doubt), malicious or an ambulance chaser. Either way the most likely victim here is Stephen Milne.
what were the allegations?
Something to do with swapping partners
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I'm going to have my "Right!" counter on! Right.Eastern wrote:Greg Westaway Presser this afternoon. AFLPA have also cleared him to play !!stinger wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 2ohk7.html
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skeptic wrote:I do vaguely remember this...Moorabbin Man wrote: Has everyone forgotten that the details of the allegations were leaked/published back in 2004. The allegations even if true, are NOT sexual assault. The Police or DPP are drawing an extremely long bow and therefore the complainant is either extremely sensitive if she genuinely believes she was violated (which I doubt), malicious or an ambulance chaser. Either way the most likely victim here is Stephen Milne.
what were the allegations?
Whatever comes after analogue.
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Is it ok to "jump at shadows" now ?Dr Spaceman wrote:There was a bye. He may be overseas for 2 - 3 days. He may be in New Zealand. Let's not jump at shadows.tweedaletomanning wrote:Agree. Unless he is doing work on behalf of the clubstinger wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 2ofzh.html
'St Kilda chief Michael Nettlefold, who is overseas, had not returned calls from The Age and the AFL indicated it would release a statement regarding the charges later on Tuesday."
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He is holidaying in Italy.
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There was a bye. He may be overseas for 2 - 3 days. He may be in New Zealand. Let's not jump at shadows.[/quote]
Is it ok to "jump at shadows" now ?
He is holidaying in Italy.
This is one CEO who is always on the ball
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Did the CEO know this was going to happen? of course not. Nettlefold can go on his annual leave anytime i would have thought.
Is it ok to "jump at shadows" now ?
He is holidaying in Italy.
This is one CEO who is always on the ball
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Did the CEO know this was going to happen? of course not. Nettlefold can go on his annual leave anytime i would have thought.
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if its annual leave why go for a holiday during the season
anyhoo
did i hear somewhere he was at a wedding over there
not sure
maybe that was something else i read on a diff topic
anyhoo
did i hear somewhere he was at a wedding over there
not sure
maybe that was something else i read on a diff topic
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Is it ok to "jump at shadows" now ?saintly wrote:There was a bye. He may be overseas for 2 - 3 days. He may be in New Zealand. Let's not jump at shadows.
He is holidaying in Italy.
This is one CEO who is always on the ball
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Did the CEO know this was going to happen? of course not. Nettlefold can go on his annual leave anytime i would have thought.[/quote]
Really? Anytime?
How about going away in the OFF season. bit of a hint it is called the OFF season for a reason.
TBH what the hell does he do around the place anyway. What's his role? Does anyone know?
All I know is since he's arrived, things have gone a tad backwards.
All I know is Geelong's CEO is on SEN once a week promoting his club.... just saying..
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tweedaletomanning wrote:Is it ok to "jump at shadows" now ?saintly wrote:There was a bye. He may be overseas for 2 - 3 days. He may be in New Zealand. Let's not jump at shadows.
He is holidaying in Italy.
This is one CEO who is always on the ball
Did the CEO know this was going to happen? of course not. Nettlefold can go on his annual leave anytime i would have thought.[/quote]
Really? Anytime?
How about going away in the OFF season. bit of a hint it is called the OFF season for a reason.
TBH what the hell does he do around the place anyway. What's his role? Does anyone know?
All I know is since he's arrived, things have gone a tad backwards.
All I know is Geelong's CEO is on SEN once a week promoting his club.... just saying..[/quote]
Never heard Geelongs CEO much at all on SEN and I listen every day.
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+1matrix wrote:if its annual leave why go for a holiday during the season
anyhoo
did i hear somewhere he was at a wedding over there
not sure
maybe that was something else i read on a diff topic
Even if it is a wedding, he is getting paid VERY big money to make certain "sacrifices".
I would say one of the "sacrifices" would be to actually stay in the country during the season.( unless on business of course)
Its not like we are "flying at the moment" and things are just humming along are they.
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Really? Anytime?plugger66 wrote:tweedaletomanning wrote:Is it ok to "jump at shadows" now ?saintly wrote:There was a bye. He may be overseas for 2 - 3 days. He may be in New Zealand. Let's not jump at shadows.
He is holidaying in Italy.
This is one CEO who is always on the ball
Did the CEO know this was going to happen? of course not. Nettlefold can go on his annual leave anytime i would have thought.
How about going away in the OFF season. bit of a hint it is called the OFF season for a reason.
TBH what the hell does he do around the place anyway. What's his role? Does anyone know?
All I know is since he's arrived, things have gone a tad backwards.
All I know is Geelong's CEO is on SEN once a week promoting his club.... just saying..[/quote]
Never heard Geelongs CEO much at all on SEN and I listen every day.[/quote]
You Could be right, Im thinking of Neil Balme, whats his role at the club?
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tweedaletomanning wrote:Really? Anytime?plugger66 wrote:tweedaletomanning wrote: Is it ok to "jump at shadows" now ?
He is holidaying in Italy.
This is one CEO who is always on the ball
Did the CEO know this was going to happen? of course not. Nettlefold can go on his annual leave anytime i would have thought.
How about going away in the OFF season. bit of a hint it is called the OFF season for a reason.
TBH what the hell does he do around the place anyway. What's his role? Does anyone know?
All I know is since he's arrived, things have gone a tad backwards.
All I know is Geelong's CEO is on SEN once a week promoting his club.... just saying..
Never heard Geelongs CEO much at all on SEN and I listen every day.[/quote]
You Could be right, Im thinking of Neil Balme, whats his role at the club?[/quote]
Football manager.