I Support the Club

[yipper]

Anyone got a box of tissues for the sook??

[rodgerfox]

As long as you can relay who said it and when.... ideally with several hundred others who were in attendance and can corroborate.

Hahahahah!!!

Like Yipper?? Somewhere between 2006 and 2008 ey? Is that accurate enough??

Classic stuff again.


And let's not get the B&F speech mixed up with what we're talking about here.

Robert Harvey allegedly said in 2007 that Ross Lyon is the best coach he's ever had.

Never seen any proof of this. And it's very different to the two separate interviews form the same time that I read and saw.

Hey sook, you need to double check who you are quoting. I said straight out it was the 2008 B & F night speech. No ambiguity there. But carry on with the sooking. it is fun.

Want to have another read of what you said? Then come back and apologise.

Careful Yipper, you're not smart enough to try and play games.


And thirdly Genius, I didn't quote anyone.


Poor Yipper.

[aussierules0k]

This thread is the lowest Saintsational can go.... yep I read it all.

Watching the mob attack a poster with a different view is sickening... to see a mod jumping in as well = bad scene.

Let's be clear, in this thread Roger Fox was baited.... and baited. His early replies were civil.... so he called someone a liar.... big bloody deal. "Woo Hoo.... he called me a liar.... now I and everyone else can stick it to him."

My take? I couldn't farking care less. BUT I hate to see mobs attack - for any reason.

Sad day at Saintsatonal.

[iwantmeseats]

RF ......FULL . OF s***.

Seriously, someone just ban this low life. Just here to purely antagonise.

Its been oriven time and time again.

But then again....


It is now starting to actually get funny. With the chidish Liar garbage, and the I know this player, and this board member told me this yada yada, while devulging precisely nothing as proof.

If I didnt know better, Id say RF is about 15.5 years old. FFS.

[bob__71]

I'm not whinging at all.

[iwantmeseats]

This thread is the lowest Saintsational can go.... yep I read it all.

Watching the mob attack a poster with a different view is sickening... to see a mod jumping in as well = bad scene.

Let's be clear, in this thread Roger Fox was baited.... and baited. His early replies were civil.... so he called someone a liar.... big bloody deal. "Woo Hoo.... he called me a liar.... now I and everyone else can stick it to him."

My take? I couldn't farking care less. BUT I hate to see mobs attack - for any reason.

Sad day at Saintsatonal.

You gotta have lost the plot, seriously. This thread? Have alook at the total garbage and baiting he is the ringleader of here. It goes on and on and ON> No excuse for him.

[SainterK]

This thread is the lowest Saintsational can go.... yep I read it all.

Watching the mob attack a poster with a different view is sickening... to see a mod jumping in as well = bad scene.

Let's be clear, in this thread Roger Fox was baited.... and baited. His early replies were civil.... so he called someone a liar.... big bloody deal. "Woo Hoo.... he called me a liar.... now I and everyone else can stick it to him."

My take? I couldn't farking care less. BUT I hate to see mobs attack - for any reason.

Sad day at Saintsatonal.

I have been polite on this thread, even supporting Roger and his right to contribute to SS.

You have collectively put everyone into a basket, and IMO that is not very nice.

You also have a thread on the GF labelling the mods trigger happy, so to be fair, you may care more about that than Roger.

[rodgerfox]

This thread is the lowest Saintsational can go.... yep I read it all.

Watching the mob attack a poster with a different view is sickening... to see a mod jumping in as well = bad scene.

Let's be clear, in this thread Roger Fox was baited.... and baited. His early replies were civil.... so he called someone a liar.... big bloody deal. "Woo Hoo.... he called me a liar.... now I and everyone else can stick it to him."

My take? I couldn't farking care less. BUT I hate to see mobs attack - for any reason.

Sad day at Saintsatonal.

I have been polite on this thread, even supporting Roger and his right to contribute to SS.

You have collectively put everyone into a basket, and IMO that is not very nice.

You also have a thread on the GF labelling the mods trigger happy, so to be fair, you may care more about that than Roger.

I have no major issue with your posting SainterK.

You do attempt to bait me regularly, and seem to revel in a bit in the 'gang attack' type situations - however you're mostly civil and level headed.

[yipper]

Oh this is all to much - I am going to have some lunch!! What a cracker!!!

[SainterK]

This thread is the lowest Saintsational can go.... yep I read it all.

Watching the mob attack a poster with a different view is sickening... to see a mod jumping in as well = bad scene.

Let's be clear, in this thread Roger Fox was baited.... and baited. His early replies were civil.... so he called someone a liar.... big bloody deal. "Woo Hoo.... he called me a liar.... now I and everyone else can stick it to him."

My take? I couldn't farking care less. BUT I hate to see mobs attack - for any reason.

Sad day at Saintsatonal.

I have been polite on this thread, even supporting Roger and his right to contribute to SS.

You have collectively put everyone into a basket, and IMO that is not very nice.

You also have a thread on the GF labelling the mods trigger happy, so to be fair, you may care more about that than Roger.

I have no major issue with your posting SainterK.

You do attempt to bait me regularly, and seem to revel in a bit in the 'gang attack' type situations - however you're mostly civil and level headed.

Revel, nah I don't think so....I do enjoy discussion though.

You must learn to differentiate between what you perceive as baiting and me winning the argument....unless you like to blur the lines

[markp]

Do you want me to quote some of the things I've been told by Board members and current players that have helped me form my views on the club currently?

Waiting....

[BAM! (shhhh)]

Guys, if we're going to see another replay of the "does Harvey rate Lyon as the best", can those picking sides please get some sources? (note, general netiquette is for sources to be used to prove, not to disprove).

My recollection was that there was a quote from a big article in the Age not long after Harvey announced he was going to play in 2008 where he was asked about all the coaches, and the gist was that Harvey said Lyon was the best prepared coach he'd played for. I recall that certain posters on here decided that meant best ever, but that seemed to have to do with Lyon v Thomas than Lyon v Alves, or Lyon v Baldock.

My memory could easily be wrong.

I've had a bit of a look, and the closest thing I can find is an old saintsational thread... with a certain pair of posters going head to head over whether or not Harvey had anemd Lyon as best coach he'd played for, and accusations of liar being thrown.

http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... c&start=75

The thread's from November 2007.I can't stand the suspense any more, can we please have some sources?

[gazfromgronggrong]

'You have collectively put everyone into a basket, and IMO that is not very nice.'



one of your planets greatest minds did as well



'The world today hangs by a thin thread, and that thread is the psyche of man ' Carl Jung





'... the real patient is not the suffering individual, but a sick and ailing Western civilisation.'

[plugger66]

Isn't this all just a little bit humourless?

I understand why the Fox gets up people's noses, but fact is there's no rule saying he can't, just as there's no rule saying that fish have to nibble the worm.

Exactly. If you don't agree with him, just ignore him!

Yes a few to precious. He is having a lend of you. I dont like it either but either go along with him and have a bit of fun ot ignore him.

[rodgerfox]

My recollection was that there was a quote from a big article in the Age not long after Harvey announced he was going to play in 2008 where he was asked about all the coaches, and the gist was that Harvey said Lyon was the best prepared coach he'd played for. I recall that certain posters on here decided that meant best ever, but that seemed to have to do with Lyon v Thomas than Lyon v Alves, or Lyon v Baldock.

My memory could easily be wrong.

It's not.

It's absolutely spot on.

[plugger66]

'You have collectively put everyone into a basket, and IMO that is not very nice.'



one of your planets greatest minds did as well



'The world today hangs by a thin thread, and that thread is the psyche of man ' Carl Jung





'... the real patient is not the suffering individual, but a sick and ailing Western civilisation.'

G'day Gazrat. i know that style of writing.

[rodgerfox]

Guys, if we're going to see another replay of the "does Harvey rate Lyon as the best", can those picking sides please get some sources? (note, general netiquette is for sources to be used to prove, not to disprove).

My recollection was that there was a quote from a big article in the Age not long after Harvey announced he was going to play in 2008 where he was asked about all the coaches, and the gist was that Harvey said Lyon was the best prepared coach he'd played for. I recall that certain posters on here decided that meant best ever, but that seemed to have to do with Lyon v Thomas than Lyon v Alves, or Lyon v Baldock.

My memory could easily be wrong.

I've had a bit of a look, and the closest thing I can find is an old saintsational thread... with a certain pair of posters going head to head over whether or not Harvey had anemd Lyon as best coach he'd played for, and accusations of liar being thrown.

http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... c&start=75

The thread's from November 2007.I can't stand the suspense any more, can we please have some sources?

Wow.

Isn't it funny the things you'll stumble across.....

Don't know if what Barks has said is correct - but Harves certainly DOES rate Lyon as a Coach. Believes he can deliver a flag - has no doubt in fact. Whether or not he is the best he has had? He didn't say that to me. However, Fraser Gehrig has said he is the best coach he has had - even after just 1 year!!

[SainterK]

Guys, if we're going to see another replay of the "does Harvey rate Lyon as the best", can those picking sides please get some sources? (note, general netiquette is for sources to be used to prove, not to disprove).

My recollection was that there was a quote from a big article in the Age not long after Harvey announced he was going to play in 2008 where he was asked about all the coaches, and the gist was that Harvey said Lyon was the best prepared coach he'd played for. I recall that certain posters on here decided that meant best ever, but that seemed to have to do with Lyon v Thomas than Lyon v Alves, or Lyon v Baldock.

My memory could easily be wrong.

I've had a bit of a look, and the closest thing I can find is an old saintsational thread... with a certain pair of posters going head to head over whether or not Harvey had anemd Lyon as best coach he'd played for, and accusations of liar being thrown.

http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... c&start=75

The thread's from November 2007.I can't stand the suspense any more, can we please have some sources?

However Yipper is not quoting a newspaper article, he is relaying what Harvey said in a speech at a club function. You cannot compare the two...

[yipper]

t;]
Don't know if what Barks has said is correct - but Harves certainly DOES rate Lyon as a Coach. Believes he can deliver a flag - has no doubt in fact. Whether or not he is the best he has had? He didn't say that to me. However, Fraser Gehrig has said he is the best coach he has had - even after just 1 year!!

Well sook, still banging on about this I see - that quote from me was in 2007, still haven't refuted what was stated at the B&F of 2008 now has it!! I supported Barks comments on this subject yesterday because of what I heard Rob Harvey say in October 2008!!! Funny, what you posted above has reminded me that another senior player of the time did in fact declare Ross Lyon the best coach he ever had, so this is getting better!!

[rodgerfox]

Guys, if we're going to see another replay of the "does Harvey rate Lyon as the best", can those picking sides please get some sources? (note, general netiquette is for sources to be used to prove, not to disprove).

My recollection was that there was a quote from a big article in the Age not long after Harvey announced he was going to play in 2008 where he was asked about all the coaches, and the gist was that Harvey said Lyon was the best prepared coach he'd played for. I recall that certain posters on here decided that meant best ever, but that seemed to have to do with Lyon v Thomas than Lyon v Alves, or Lyon v Baldock.

My memory could easily be wrong.

I've had a bit of a look, and the closest thing I can find is an old saintsational thread... with a certain pair of posters going head to head over whether or not Harvey had anemd Lyon as best coach he'd played for, and accusations of liar being thrown.

http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... c&start=75

The thread's from November 2007.I can't stand the suspense any more, can we please have some sources?

However Yipper is not quoting a newspaper article, he is relaying what Harvey said in a speech at a club function. You cannot compare the two...

I beg your pardon?

Yipper responded directly to what B4Eva lied about Harves saying. He said Harvey quoted exactly what B4Eva said.

So somewhere, magically, back when the thread that was posted above was written, it was news to Yipper that Harves has said it.
But now, a couple of years later he is adamant that it is exactly what Harves said?


He then said that he 'repeated it at the B&F'.



I think someone might be a tad embarrassed when they get back from lunch.

[yipper]

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However Yipper is not quoting a newspaper article, he is relaying what Harvey said in a speech at a club function. You cannot compare the two...

Correct. But this is falling on deaf ears!!!

[rodgerfox]

t;]
Don't know if what Barks has said is correct - but Harves certainly DOES rate Lyon as a Coach. Believes he can deliver a flag - has no doubt in fact. Whether or not he is the best he has had? He didn't say that to me. However, Fraser Gehrig has said he is the best coach he has had - even after just 1 year!!

Well sook, still banging on about this I see - that quote from me was in 2007, still haven't refuted what was stated at the B&F of 2008 now has it!! I supported Barks comments on this subject yesterday because of what I heard Rob Harvey say in October 2008!!! Funny, what you posted above has reminded me that another senior player of the time did in fact declare Ross Lyon the best coach he ever had, so this is getting better!!

Poor Yipper.

Is this your way of saying 'sorry I made it up'?

Or 'sorry for trying to jump in with the mob and lay the boot in only to be caught out lying and looking really, really silly.'?


Now this is a keeper!!

[rodgerfox]

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However Yipper is not quoting a newspaper article, he is relaying what Harvey said in a speech at a club function. You cannot compare the two...

Correct. But this is falling on deaf ears!!!

Hahaha!!

You're priceless.

This is the biggest bust in SS history I reckon. So, so funny.


Hahahaha!!!

[barks4eva]

satchmo wrote:

IMHO the "crucifixion" of rodgerfox is the crux of the issue. It seems to me that rodger is hell bent on giving the "GT haters" a good dose of what the "GT lovers" copped. Many don't see the irony, and many more just think he's wrong, but I can see the point that he's making...albeit over and over and over. Whether rodger is wrong or right is certainly not the point here...what is the point is that gaz, in defending rodgers right to piss off the GT haters, has taken on so many people that banning was almost inevitable.


gazrat is not wrong....he is the champion of rights.

I reckon he switches to the left hand also!

Oh yeah I see the irony alright and know exactly what's going on and it is a deliberate attempt to divide the site between those that want to just support the club, keep the positive vibe going because for the first time in this clubs history we have a truly professional football department,


20-2 we have the best coach in the AFL, other clubs are trying to copy the St Kilda game plan,

desperately unlucky last year, so many things went against us and we still should have beaten them,

penny dropping,


As WhiteWinmar so eloquently put it, "Thomas inherited a list from heaven and managed to send it half way to hell" and the belief cloud ended up looking more like a mushroom!

Grant " fitness and conditioning staff are overrated" Thomas and his dictatorship, serial mismanagement and neglect cost this club probably two premierships already and you drinkers of the poisoned cordial still don't get it,

We now a have a strong relationship with our VFL side which kind of works better when you bother to talk with them.

Gary posted a couple of years ago that it was HIS understanding that Thomas would step aside if he/Thomas thought there was a better man for the job and Gary actually believed that Thomas was being sincere, took him at his word,......... oh dear

Butterss learnt that lesson and like a lot of things with Thomas they either end up in acrimony or a courtroom,

seriously, as though Thomas would just up and go, forsaking a $500,000 gig coaching an AFL club with bonus incentives of a further $500,000 dollar payment if certain criteria were met, when he has eight kids and a Brighton Mansion to maintain!

And Gary actually thought Thomas was being sincere!

Checkmate!

Thomas couldn't lie straight in bed, it's mind boggling that any of you can be so naive and gullible to that extreme, I mean seriously,........ FAIR DINKUM,........ GET REAL!

Some of the stories I could tell, but leaving them aside,

the differences between Ross Lyon the coach who sets trends and a professional football department with proper processes in fitness and conditioning strictly adhered to, as opposed to the dictatorship of Thomas, would be akin to likening Mother Theresa with Paris Hilton, seriously the polarities could not be any more extreme,

yet RF and his want to just shyte stir as if this be clever to somehow mirror all the stuff that was said about Thomas and yes mostly by me,........ it's not clever, it's not funny, it just further demonstrates how dumbed down and clueless, how gullible and naive, how mindless, laterally challenged and easily conned, some people really are!

Apparently this dumbed down, dingbat drivel and dripfeed is deliciously dripping with irony delighting you Thomas flogs with your cheeky little monkey spanking grins, devoid of a drum that you wouldn't get with a brass band up you, bereft of any perspicacious understanding derived from perspicuous reasoning, the laterally challenged drinker's of the poisoned cordial take quiet comfort in floghorn fox's flagettating frog shyte and his empty headed vacuous mindset,

and then we get to the point where Gary "It is my understanding that Thomas would step aside if he thought there was a better man for the job" Guevara rides in to defend this troll, who is doing nothing more than spreading negativity when there is so much to be positive about,

The snakeoil salesman, ex- Warrnabool coach, with no previous AFL coaching experience, who in a sham process appointed and paid himself $500,000 annually from the get go, has been exited out and not one moment too soon after amateur hour dragged on for over five years, we now have the Real McCoy, a genuine coach who sets trends, with ten years experience as an assistant, including a Premiership with Sydney,

it's hardly like we are down the bottom called Richmond or even just falling into the finals,

20-2 and IMHO we orchestrated those two losses by experimenting before the finals,

the differences are so extreme, do I really need to point this out?

yet this troll bagging of Ross Lyon might seem funny and ironic to any malcontent still feeling up their GT inflatable, but in truth it just further exposes how vacuous this moronic mindset really is,

Gary Guevara is actively supporting this deliberate attempt to perpetuate negativity and division, when we as Sainters have a lot to be positive about,

In 2006 we lost more quarters than we won, we were on the slide, mid season crisis meeting for the second year running, a fitness and conditioning nightmare, a playing list unfit for the requirements of elite AFL football, a list getting slower and slower, a corrosive relationship with our VFL affiliate, not too mention a coach playing Blake in the ruck with no numbers behind the ball etc...etc... the list is as long as The Great Wall of China!


IMHO Gary Guevara should be banned for a lot longer, so he at least has more of an opportunity to do something meaningful, get a life and stop pissing it all up against the wall on a flowering footy forum, carrying on like he's holding a torch for freedom and natural justice, when in truth he's only defending an absolute clueless trolling twit who just happens to share the same laterally challenged empty headed understandings as himself!

Yeah, Grant would have just stepped aside,.........OMG, oh dear,

I've don't know what happened in the general forum, I don't care, though I can well imagine, could not give a rat's scrotum who said what, this, that or anything, but I do know, when Gary Guevara was banned only from the general forum he continued to argue this nonsense with Paris Milton on the main forum as if anyone gives a **** about this shyte over there, hijacking threads with childish, infantile squabbling and carrying on like a petulant schoolboy, when people were actually just discussing football!

WAKE UP, GET REAL THIS IS A FOOTY FORUM, not the American Civil Rights Movement!

FAIR DINKUM

AND besides, for anyone defending this troll RF

Thomas had coached 89 games of AFL football before I said one bad word about him, the bagging of Lyon started from around 89 seconds after his appointment!

Thomas started with 20 wins 1 draw and 52 losses in his first three and a bit seasons

2000 16th W 0 L 7
2001 15th W 4 L 18
2002 15th W 5 D 1 L 16
2003 11th W 11 L 11

All this and I did not bag him once!


20-2

perspective!




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[yipper]

Guys, if we're going to see another replay of the "does Harvey rate Lyon as the best", can those picking sides please get some sources? (note, general netiquette is for sources to be used to prove, not to disprove).

My recollection was that there was a quote from a big article in the Age not long after Harvey announced he was going to play in 2008 where he was asked about all the coaches, and the gist was that Harvey said Lyon was the best prepared coach he'd played for. I recall that certain posters on here decided that meant best ever, but that seemed to have to do with Lyon v Thomas than Lyon v Alves, or Lyon v Baldock.

My memory could easily be wrong.

I've had a bit of a look, and the closest thing I can find is an old saintsational thread... with a certain pair of posters going head to head over whether or not Harvey had anemd Lyon as best coach he'd played for, and accusations of liar being thrown.

http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... c&start=75

The thread's from November 2007.I can't stand the suspense any more, can we please have some sources?

However Yipper is not quoting a newspaper article, he is relaying what Harvey said in a speech at a club function. You cannot compare the two...

I beg your pardon?

Yipper responded directly to what B4Eva lied about Harves saying. He said Harvey quoted exactly what B4Eva said.

So somewhere, magically, back when the thread that was posted above was written, it was news to Yipper that Harves has said it.
But now, a couple of years later he is adamant that it is exactly what Harves said?


He then said that he 'repeated it at the B&F'.



I think someone might be a tad embarrassed when they get back from lunch.

Well, Mr I am not whinging Fox, Barks made the statement in this thread yesterday of what our club legend said - I agreed that this was said because - word for word - that is what he said at the club function in October 2008. So, is Barks a liar?? I recall that I corrected Barks on when that statement was made, being that I thought it was in 2008 ala at the club function, but I agreed that he did make such a statement. It was then another poster confirmed he to recalled the comment. So just what the hell are you talking about?? Boy you can sook!!!