Lyon Pulls out

[saynta]

I see Cats are now sounding out Ross Lyon for a coaching gig
They mustn’t have talked to Scollop ....I mean the guy clearly can’t coach right ???
Surely they meant to dial GT instead ....and rang old Rosco by mistake???????

Chris Scott should take a look at Melbourne. He'll learn a lot more from their list and their line up in the Grand Final than he will from listening to a bunch of tired worn out cliches from your mate...Melbourne didn't enter finals in poor form. They didn't fall over the line in a prelim. They played to their potential. I suppose Ross would have played Jake Bowey ahead of Nathan Jones or Melksham or Neville Jetta would he?

Anyhow ...Brendan Bolton and Alan Richardson were sought as well after they were sacked

Lyon will fit in well down at Geelong with their arrogant players who think they're better than they really are. Clarke did himself a favour getting out. Poor ol Rhysey...can't see him getting many games....Bad luck as well to Quinton Narkle. Danger and Selwood and Smith and Higgins and the older brigade preferred.

I had a strange feeling this thread wasn't finished... Teffers might pop his head up here or there with an attempt at humour and at the same time extolling the brilliance of Ross Lyon.

History has a way of sorting out a mythical super coach (at the time) and 'wanna be legends' with coaches that actually fulfill a teams potential. You need to learn to differentiate between popular opinion dressed up as 'fact' ...versus the real thing.

With the start we had in 2009... any decent coach with half a brain should have planned better for the finals. We had players who were not at their best and players who couldn't impact because they were burnt out. NEVER again in the history of our game will you see a team win 19 in a row and yet fail at the final hurdle. Aiming for a McLellan cup instead of a flag...what's your favourite saying...oh yeah...Muppet (at the time) !!

Kayo had all GF's going back to 2011 and I was bored so I watched the 2013 GF earlier this week...I was prepared...unlike your Tosser mate

Go and watch the 2013 Grand Final. If Freo had a better game plan and were better prepared they should have won. No one in finals...repeat NO ONE could compete with Aaron Sandilands that year (least of all Hale and Bailey). Sandi was handing it on a platter to his mids. Freo kicked only 1 goal in a half of footy...They interviewed Toss at half time and no guesses what he said. "We couldn't execute." C'mon Ross. Stop blaming the players mate!!

It was the same story for Freo in 2013 as it was for the Saints in 2009/2010. Brilliant players on all lines carrying an average-good coach and not enough focus on scoring or having multiple set plays for attack or options up forward.

That about sums it up.

[saynta]

Herald sun article states that , "Lyon, who coached the Saints and Dockers to four AFL grand finals, could also help shape the Cats’ game plan as they look to stay in the premiership hunt next year."

Fails to mention that he didn't win any of them.

[Yorkeys]

Smart move by Scott. If Ross made the trip south he would immediately make miserable grey wiggle Chris look more intelligent, more charming, more good humoured, less arrogant and his losses in finals would not look so bad by comparison, he would kill it in the hair style & grooming stakes and look infinitely more attacking in his possession game style. Enright was probably too good at his job for Chris to feel comfortable.

[Scollop]

I see Cats are now sounding out Ross Lyon for a coaching gig
They mustn’t have talked to Scollop ....I mean the guy clearly can’t coach right ???
Surely they meant to dial GT instead ....and rang old Rosco by mistake???????

Chris Scott should take a look at Melbourne. He'll learn a lot more from their list and their line up in the Grand Final than he will from listening to a bunch of tired worn out cliches from your mate...Melbourne didn't enter finals in poor form. They didn't fall over the line in a prelim. They played to their potential. I suppose Ross would have played Jake Bowey ahead of Nathan Jones or Melksham or Neville Jetta would he?

Anyhow ...Brendan Bolton and Alan Richardson were sought as well after they were sacked

Lyon will fit in well down at Geelong with their arrogant players who think they're better than they really are. Clarke did himself a favour getting out. Poor ol Rhysey...can't see him getting many games....Bad luck as well to Quinton Narkle. Danger and Selwood and Smith and Higgins and the older brigade preferred.

I had a strange feeling this thread wasn't finished... Teffers might pop his head up here or there with an attempt at humour and at the same time extolling the brilliance of Ross Lyon.

History has a way of sorting out a mythical super coach (at the time) and 'wanna be legends' with coaches that actually fulfill a teams potential. You need to learn to differentiate between popular opinion dressed up as 'fact' ...versus the real thing.

With the start we had in 2009... any decent coach with half a brain should have planned better for the finals. We had players who were not at their best and players who couldn't impact because they were burnt out. NEVER again in the history of our game will you see a team win 19 in a row and yet fail at the final hurdle. Aiming for a McLellan cup instead of a flag...what's your favourite saying...oh yeah...Muppet (at the time) !!

Kayo had all GF's going back to 2011 and I was bored so I watched the 2013 GF earlier this week...I was prepared...unlike your Tosser mate

Go and watch the 2013 Grand Final. If Freo had a better game plan and were better prepared they should have won. No one in finals...repeat NO ONE could compete with Aaron Sandilands that year (least of all Hale and Bailey). Sandi was handing it on a platter to his mids. Freo kicked only 1 goal in a half of footy...They interviewed Toss at half time and no guesses what he said. "We couldn't execute." C'mon Ross. Stop blaming the players mate!!

It was the same story for Freo in 2013 as it was for the Saints in 2009/2010. Brilliant players on all lines carrying an average-good coach and not enough focus on scoring or having multiple set plays for attack or options up forward.

That about sums it up.

I forgot to add that they had 3 on the bench in 2013 and 1 sub (who used to have to wear a green vest). Guess who Lyon had as his sub and only put him on when the game was over?

Yep…a 20 year old (hadn’t fully served his apprenticeship so couldn’t be considered in the first 3 quarters ) who went on to win 4 best and fairests, is a 2 x AA, 3 x Ross Glendinning medalists, he won the AFL’s MVP award in 2020 and also a Brownlow Medal in 2020 but Ross thought he wasn’t good enough (at the time)

[CQ SAINT]

I see Cats are now sounding out Ross Lyon for a coaching gig
They mustn’t have talked to Scollop ....I mean the guy clearly can’t coach right ???
Surely they meant to dial GT instead ....and rang old Rosco by mistake???????

Chris Scott should take a look at Melbourne. He'll learn a lot more from their list and their line up in the Grand Final than he will from listening to a bunch of tired worn out cliches from your mate...Melbourne didn't enter finals in poor form. They didn't fall over the line in a prelim. They played to their potential. I suppose Ross would have played Jake Bowey ahead of Nathan Jones or Melksham or Neville Jetta would he?

Anyhow ...Brendan Bolton and Alan Richardson were sought as well after they were sacked

Lyon will fit in well down at Geelong with their arrogant players who think they're better than they really are. Clarke did himself a favour getting out. Poor ol Rhysey...can't see him getting many games....Bad luck as well to Quinton Narkle. Danger and Selwood and Smith and Higgins and the older brigade preferred.

I had a strange feeling this thread wasn't finished... Teffers might pop his head up here or there with an attempt at humour and at the same time extolling the brilliance of Ross Lyon.

History has a way of sorting out a mythical super coach (at the time) and 'wanna be legends' with coaches that actually fulfill a teams potential. You need to learn to differentiate between popular opinion dressed up as 'fact' ...versus the real thing.

With the start we had in 2009... any decent coach with half a brain should have planned better for the finals. We had players who were not at their best and players who couldn't impact because they were burnt out. NEVER again in the history of our game will you see a team win 19 in a row and yet fail at the final hurdle. Aiming for a McLellan cup instead of a flag...what's your favourite saying...oh yeah...Muppet (at the time) !!

Kayo had all GF's going back to 2011 and I was bored so I watched the 2013 GF earlier this week...I was prepared...unlike your Tosser mate

Go and watch the 2013 Grand Final. If Freo had a better game plan and were better prepared they should have won. No one in finals...repeat NO ONE could compete with Aaron Sandilands that year (least of all Hale and Bailey). Sandi was handing it on a platter to his mids. Freo kicked only 1 goal in a half of footy...They interviewed Toss at half time and no guesses what he said. "We couldn't execute." C'mon Ross. Stop blaming the players mate!!

It was the same story for Freo in 2013 as it was for the Saints in 2009/2010. Brilliant players on all lines carrying an average-good coach and not enough focus on scoring or having multiple set plays for attack or options up forward.

That about sums it up.

I forgot to add that they had 3 on the bench in 2013 and 1 sub (who used to have to wear a green vest). Guess who Lyon had as his sub and only put him on when the game was over?

Yep…a 20 year old (hadn’t fully served his apprenticeship so couldn’t be considered in the first 3 quarters ) who went on to win 4 best and fairests, is a 2 x AA, 3 x Ross Glendinning medalists, he won the AFL’s MVP award in 2020 and also a Brownlow Medal in 2020 but Ross thought he wasn’t good enough (at the time)

He forgot he was there.

[Teflon]

I see Cats are now sounding out Ross Lyon for a coaching gig
They mustn’t have talked to Scollop ....I mean the guy clearly can’t coach right ???
Surely they meant to dial GT instead ....and rang old Rosco by mistake???????

They want him as a yes man.

Can you move the witches hats again Ross, Yes Chris, where do you want them.

Sounds about right.

I believe they will also make him property steward, that way he keeps his hand in managing and dealing with property for his post footy career.

Doesn’t say much for GT then....can’t get a look in as a property steward??

[Teflon]

I see Cats are now sounding out Ross Lyon for a coaching gig
They mustn’t have talked to Scollop ....I mean the guy clearly can’t coach right ???
Surely they meant to dial GT instead ....and rang old Rosco by mistake???????

Chris Scott should take a look at Melbourne. He'll learn a lot more from their list and their line up in the Grand Final than he will from listening to a bunch of tired worn out cliches from your mate...Melbourne didn't enter finals in poor form. They didn't fall over the line in a prelim. They played to their potential. I suppose Ross would have played Jake Bowey ahead of Nathan Jones or Melksham or Neville Jetta would he?

Anyhow ...Brendan Bolton and Alan Richardson were sought as well after they were sacked

Lyon will fit in well down at Geelong with their arrogant players who think they're better than they really are. Clarke did himself a favour getting out. Poor ol Rhysey...can't see him getting many games....Bad luck as well to Quinton Narkle. Danger and Selwood and Smith and Higgins and the older brigade preferred.

I had a strange feeling this thread wasn't finished... Teffers might pop his head up here or there with an attempt at humour and at the same time extolling the brilliance of Ross Lyon.

History has a way of sorting out a mythical super coach (at the time) and 'wanna be legends' with coaches that actually fulfill a teams potential. You need to learn to differentiate between popular opinion dressed up as 'fact' ...versus the real thing.

With the start we had in 2009... any decent coach with half a brain should have planned better for the finals. We had players who were not at their best and players who couldn't impact because they were burnt out. NEVER again in the history of our game will you see a team win 19 in a row and yet fail at the final hurdle. Aiming for a McLellan cup instead of a flag...what's your favourite saying...oh yeah...Muppet (at the time) !!

Kayo had all GF's going back to 2011 and I was bored so I watched the 2013 GF earlier this week...I was prepared...unlike your Tosser mate

Go and watch the 2013 Grand Final. If Freo had a better game plan and were better prepared they should have won. No one in finals...repeat NO ONE could compete with Aaron Sandilands that year (least of all Hale and Bailey). Sandi was handing it on a platter to his mids. Freo kicked only 1 goal in a half of footy...They interviewed Toss at half time and no guesses what he said. "We couldn't execute." C'mon Ross. Stop blaming the players mate!!

It was the same story for Freo in 2013 as it was for the Saints in 2009/2010. Brilliant players on all lines carrying an average-good coach and not enough focus on scoring or having multiple set plays for attack or options up forward.

Blah blah blah
Lyons still getting offered gigs
Your mate “GT” doesn’t even rate a mention....
1/0
FACT
Do come back with more than opinionated dribble

[Teflon]

Herald sun article states that , "Lyon, who coached the Saints and Dockers to four AFL grand finals, could also help shape the Cats’ game plan as they look to stay in the premiership hunt next year."

Fails to mention that he didn't win any of them.

Fails to also mention your love child GT
But gee....they must see something in Rosco they like..

[Teflon]

Smart move by Scott. If Ross made the trip south he would immediately make miserable grey wiggle Chris look more intelligent, more charming, more good humoured, less arrogant and his losses in finals would not look so bad by comparison, he would kill it in the hair style & grooming stakes and look infinitely more attacking in his possession game style. Enright was probably too good at his job for Chris to feel comfortable.

Oh it’s a marketing ploy????
I give you points for creativity but it’s smacks of desperation...

[Teflon]

I see Cats are now sounding out Ross Lyon for a coaching gig
They mustn’t have talked to Scollop ....I mean the guy clearly can’t coach right ???
Surely they meant to dial GT instead ....and rang old Rosco by mistake???????

Chris Scott should take a look at Melbourne. He'll learn a lot more from their list and their line up in the Grand Final than he will from listening to a bunch of tired worn out cliches from your mate...Melbourne didn't enter finals in poor form. They didn't fall over the line in a prelim. They played to their potential. I suppose Ross would have played Jake Bowey ahead of Nathan Jones or Melksham or Neville Jetta would he?

Anyhow ...Brendan Bolton and Alan Richardson were sought as well after they were sacked

Lyon will fit in well down at Geelong with their arrogant players who think they're better than they really are. Clarke did himself a favour getting out. Poor ol Rhysey...can't see him getting many games....Bad luck as well to Quinton Narkle. Danger and Selwood and Smith and Higgins and the older brigade preferred.

I had a strange feeling this thread wasn't finished... Teffers might pop his head up here or there with an attempt at humour and at the same time extolling the brilliance of Ross Lyon.

History has a way of sorting out a mythical super coach (at the time) and 'wanna be legends' with coaches that actually fulfill a teams potential. You need to learn to differentiate between popular opinion dressed up as 'fact' ...versus the real thing.

With the start we had in 2009... any decent coach with half a brain should have planned better for the finals. We had players who were not at their best and players who couldn't impact because they were burnt out. NEVER again in the history of our game will you see a team win 19 in a row and yet fail at the final hurdle. Aiming for a McLellan cup instead of a flag...what's your favourite saying...oh yeah...Muppet (at the time) !!

Kayo had all GF's going back to 2011 and I was bored so I watched the 2013 GF earlier this week...I was prepared...unlike your Tosser mate

Go and watch the 2013 Grand Final. If Freo had a better game plan and were better prepared they should have won. No one in finals...repeat NO ONE could compete with Aaron Sandilands that year (least of all Hale and Bailey). Sandi was handing it on a platter to his mids. Freo kicked only 1 goal in a half of footy...They interviewed Toss at half time and no guesses what he said. "We couldn't execute." C'mon Ross. Stop blaming the players mate!!

It was the same story for Freo in 2013 as it was for the Saints in 2009/2010. Brilliant players on all lines carrying an average-good coach and not enough focus on scoring or having multiple set plays for attack or options up forward.

That about sums it up.

I forgot to add that they had 3 on the bench in 2013 and 1 sub (who used to have to wear a green vest). Guess who Lyon had as his sub and only put him on when the game was over?

Yep…a 20 year old (hadn’t fully served his apprenticeship so couldn’t be considered in the first 3 quarters ) who went on to win 4 best and fairests, is a 2 x AA, 3 x Ross Glendinning medalists, he won the AFL’s MVP award in 2020 and also a Brownlow Medal in 2020 but Ross thought he wasn’t good enough (at the time)

AND STILL rated by our club champions , best players and all time greats as one of the greatest coaches they’ve played under
AND STILL in demand at what ...his 4th AFL club??
GT anyone ?

[bangaulegend]

IMO our obsession with Ross Lyon is unhealthy & as much as he might have done the dirty on us please lets just move on & focus on the future

[CQ SAINT]

I can't believe no one has suggested Ross's dad should have too. I did I miss that.

[samoht]

Meanwhile, Alan Richardson has been doing alright ... and sends his best wishes as he waves the silverware.

"After spending the 2020 season as the club's Director of Coaching, Richardson was later appointed to the position General Manager of AFL Football Performance in preparation for 2021.

In his role, Richardson oversees the performance-based elements of the AFL program including coaching, high performance, medical, performance psychology and skill development.

Richardson is a well respected figure in the footy industry and joined the Demons after six years and 126 games at the helm at St Kilda, where he finished as the club's second longest serving coach."

[B.M]

GT

Never interested in coaching anyone else… too busy making 100M in business

Lyon a career coach

Both good coaches with obvious flaws

Neither succeeded

[saynta]

Herald sun article states that , "Lyon, who coached the Saints and Dockers to four AFL grand finals, could also help shape the Cats’ game plan as they look to stay in the premiership hunt next year."

Fails to mention that he didn't win any of them.

Fails to also mention your love child GT
But gee....they must see something in Rosco they like..

Maybe they have some female staff that they want to get rid of.

[saynta]

I see Cats are now sounding out Ross Lyon for a coaching gig
They mustn’t have talked to Scollop ....I mean the guy clearly can’t coach right ???
Surely they meant to dial GT instead ....and rang old Rosco by mistake???????

Chris Scott should take a look at Melbourne. He'll learn a lot more from their list and their line up in the Grand Final than he will from listening to a bunch of tired worn out cliches from your mate...Melbourne didn't enter finals in poor form. They didn't fall over the line in a prelim. They played to their potential. I suppose Ross would have played Jake Bowey ahead of Nathan Jones or Melksham or Neville Jetta would he?

Anyhow ...Brendan Bolton and Alan Richardson were sought as well after they were sacked

Lyon will fit in well down at Geelong with their arrogant players who think they're better than they really are. Clarke did himself a favour getting out. Poor ol Rhysey...can't see him getting many games....Bad luck as well to Quinton Narkle. Danger and Selwood and Smith and Higgins and the older brigade preferred.

I had a strange feeling this thread wasn't finished... Teffers might pop his head up here or there with an attempt at humour and at the same time extolling the brilliance of Ross Lyon.

History has a way of sorting out a mythical super coach (at the time) and 'wanna be legends' with coaches that actually fulfill a teams potential. You need to learn to differentiate between popular opinion dressed up as 'fact' ...versus the real thing.

With the start we had in 2009... any decent coach with half a brain should have planned better for the finals. We had players who were not at their best and players who couldn't impact because they were burnt out. NEVER again in the history of our game will you see a team win 19 in a row and yet fail at the final hurdle. Aiming for a McLellan cup instead of a flag...what's your favourite saying...oh yeah...Muppet (at the time) !!

Kayo had all GF's going back to 2011 and I was bored so I watched the 2013 GF earlier this week...I was prepared...unlike your Tosser mate

Go and watch the 2013 Grand Final. If Freo had a better game plan and were better prepared they should have won. No one in finals...repeat NO ONE could compete with Aaron Sandilands that year (least of all Hale and Bailey). Sandi was handing it on a platter to his mids. Freo kicked only 1 goal in a half of footy...They interviewed Toss at half time and no guesses what he said. "We couldn't execute." C'mon Ross. Stop blaming the players mate!!

It was the same story for Freo in 2013 as it was for the Saints in 2009/2010. Brilliant players on all lines carrying an average-good coach and not enough focus on scoring or having multiple set plays for attack or options up forward.

That about sums it up.

I forgot to add that they had 3 on the bench in 2013 and 1 sub (who used to have to wear a green vest). Guess who Lyon had as his sub and only put him on when the game was over?

Yep…a 20 year old (hadn’t fully served his apprenticeship so couldn’t be considered in the first 3 quarters ) who went on to win 4 best and fairests, is a 2 x AA, 3 x Ross Glendinning medalists, he won the AFL’s MVP award in 2020 and also a Brownlow Medal in 2020 but Ross thought he wasn’t good enough (at the time)

AND STILL rated by our club champions , best players and all time greats as one of the greatest coaches they’ve played under
AND STILL in demand at what ...his 4th AFL club??
GT anyone ?

Pure media bulls*** that he was wanted by either Carlton or Collingwood. Neither club wanted to touch him with a barge poll.

[saynta]

I can't believe no one has suggested Ross's dad should have too. I did I miss that.

Nah, someone did suggest that. If they hadn't I certainly would have.

[Teflon]

I see Cats are now sounding out Ross Lyon for a coaching gig
They mustn’t have talked to Scollop ....I mean the guy clearly can’t coach right ???
Surely they meant to dial GT instead ....and rang old Rosco by mistake???????

Chris Scott should take a look at Melbourne. He'll learn a lot more from their list and their line up in the Grand Final than he will from listening to a bunch of tired worn out cliches from your mate...Melbourne didn't enter finals in poor form. They didn't fall over the line in a prelim. They played to their potential. I suppose Ross would have played Jake Bowey ahead of Nathan Jones or Melksham or Neville Jetta would he?

Anyhow ...Brendan Bolton and Alan Richardson were sought as well after they were sacked

Lyon will fit in well down at Geelong with their arrogant players who think they're better than they really are. Clarke did himself a favour getting out. Poor ol Rhysey...can't see him getting many games....Bad luck as well to Quinton Narkle. Danger and Selwood and Smith and Higgins and the older brigade preferred.

I had a strange feeling this thread wasn't finished... Teffers might pop his head up here or there with an attempt at humour and at the same time extolling the brilliance of Ross Lyon.

History has a way of sorting out a mythical super coach (at the time) and 'wanna be legends' with coaches that actually fulfill a teams potential. You need to learn to differentiate between popular opinion dressed up as 'fact' ...versus the real thing.

With the start we had in 2009... any decent coach with half a brain should have planned better for the finals. We had players who were not at their best and players who couldn't impact because they were burnt out. NEVER again in the history of our game will you see a team win 19 in a row and yet fail at the final hurdle. Aiming for a McLellan cup instead of a flag...what's your favourite saying...oh yeah...Muppet (at the time) !!

Kayo had all GF's going back to 2011 and I was bored so I watched the 2013 GF earlier this week...I was prepared...unlike your Tosser mate

Go and watch the 2013 Grand Final. If Freo had a better game plan and were better prepared they should have won. No one in finals...repeat NO ONE could compete with Aaron Sandilands that year (least of all Hale and Bailey). Sandi was handing it on a platter to his mids. Freo kicked only 1 goal in a half of footy...They interviewed Toss at half time and no guesses what he said. "We couldn't execute." C'mon Ross. Stop blaming the players mate!!

It was the same story for Freo in 2013 as it was for the Saints in 2009/2010. Brilliant players on all lines carrying an average-good coach and not enough focus on scoring or having multiple set plays for attack or options up forward.

That about sums it up.

I forgot to add that they had 3 on the bench in 2013 and 1 sub (who used to have to wear a green vest). Guess who Lyon had as his sub and only put him on when the game was over?

Yep…a 20 year old (hadn’t fully served his apprenticeship so couldn’t be considered in the first 3 quarters ) who went on to win 4 best and fairests, is a 2 x AA, 3 x Ross Glendinning medalists, he won the AFL’s MVP award in 2020 and also a Brownlow Medal in 2020 but Ross thought he wasn’t good enough (at the time)

AND STILL rated by our club champions , best players and all time greats as one of the greatest coaches they’ve played under
AND STILL in demand at what ...his 4th AFL club??
GT anyone ?

Pure media bulls*** that he was wanted by either Carlton or Collingwood. Neither club wanted to touch him with a barge poll.

More made up lies
Ask Carlton Prez who rang
But anyhoo continue to make up nonsense everyone knows your pathological hatred renders you incapable of logical thought

[Teflon]

Herald sun article states that , "Lyon, who coached the Saints and Dockers to four AFL grand finals, could also help shape the Cats’ game plan as they look to stay in the premiership hunt next year."

Fails to mention that he didn't win any of them.

Fails to also mention your love child GT
But gee....they must see something in Rosco they like..

Maybe they have some female staff that they want to get rid of.

Nah don’t think they’re too worried with gutter crawling stuff you resort to..
They do like people who know the game though so that counts GT out...

[Teflon]

GT

Never interested in coaching anyone else… too busy making 100M in business

Lyon a career coach

Both good coaches with obvious flaws

Neither succeeded

Oh righty....GT just “too busy” and can’t stand to coach anyone else (I think he said same when he got the arse from North...)..,
Facts = No ones come knocking , no ones even inquired about GT cause they don’t rate the bloke
Facts - Lyon is STILL rated at AFL level and remains sought after for his knowledge of the game to this day
BIG difference and reason why ...lol

[shanegrambeau]

Did anyone come seeking Stan Alves after he finished with us?

[happy feet]

Did anyone come seeking Stan Alves after he finished with us?

Stan had massive family issues to contend with. Any parent dealing with a child committing suicide has more to cope with than any of us will ever know or understand.

[shanegrambeau]

Did anyone come seeking Stan Alves after he finished with us?

Stan had massive family issues to contend with. Any parent dealing with a child committing suicide has more to cope with than any of us will ever know or understand.

Oooooooh!

[skeptic]

Did anyone come seeking Stan Alves after he finished with us?

Stan had massive family issues to contend with. Any parent dealing with a child committing suicide has more to cope with than any of us will ever know or understand.

I thought it was an accident?

Never read anything that’s suggested otherwise.

[happy feet]

Did anyone come seeking Stan Alves after he finished with us?

Stan had massive family issues to contend with. Any parent dealing with a child committing suicide has more to cope with than any of us will ever know or understand.

I thought it was an accident?

Never read anything that’s suggested otherwise.

Thanks for the correction Skeptic. I did think it was suicide but I was wrong. It was an accident when Stan’s 13 year old was hit by a train when riding his bike. There is a natural order in life and for a parent to lose a child, the grief must be hard to comprehend.