ST Kilda Vs West Coast Match Thread

Statsman · Post: # 928565Post **Statsman** » Sun 23 May 2010 6:58pm

dcstkfc wrote:Best at half time: Hayes, Dal Santo, Montagna, Milne.

Our three midfielders are among the best on ground yet we cannot translate in to effective forward entries.

clarky449 · Post: # 928566Post **clarky449** » Sun 23 May 2010 6:59pm

Its sad to watch. Maybe we just arent meant to be succesfull?

Im still confident though, cmon boys

saint66au · Post: # 928567Post **saint66au** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:00pm

plugger66 wrote:
Ice Wolf wrote:
Devilhead wrote:No goals from our midfield
and they've screwed up numerous forward entries as well.
I reckon with out mid field playing well tonight we would be 10 goals down. Dal, Lenny and Joey are our best 3 apart from Milne who apparently cant travel.

Dal, Joey and Lenny currently have 25% of our posessions between them

Farren Ray 10 touches..all handpasses

McQualter 2 posessions

Gardiner 2 posessions..0 marks

fugazi · Post: # 928569Post **fugazi** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:01pm

Gwilt playing very well, strong , composed and skilful

Zac..........a joke

Heyne needs to give us something

We look better structure - wise with Stanley there

McEvoy having a bit of influence

If we stop kicking out on the full, we could win this.

bigcarl · Post: # 928570Post **bigcarl** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:01pm

goddard to ff in the second half is an absolute no brainer in my opinion.

we're dominating around the ground but cannot put it on the board. another four goals in the second half isn't going to win it for us.

throw kosi in the ruck. he is a low percentage option at ff and isn't a good enough forward to be the main focal point.

older saint · Sun 23 May 2010 7:02pm

Skills poor terrible game to watch. Had plenty of the ball but delivery is terrible.

McQualter terrible, Dawson aweful. Gilbert foot skills poor.
HAyes Dal Mont and Raph but 1 bad kick ok. McEvoy doing alright against 2 good ruck.

NEed - better ball use, BEtter goal kicking and less turnovers

QuestionOfAccuracy · Sun 23 May 2010 7:02pm

Disposal, particularly by foot, is preventing us from putting our dominance on the scoreboard.

Also, its evident that our forward pressure is nowhere as effective as it was last year.

Devilhead · Post: # 928573Post **Devilhead** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:03pm

Statsman wrote:
dcstkfc wrote:Best at half time: Hayes, Dal Santo, Montagna, Milne.
Our three midfielders are among the best on ground yet we cannot translate in to effective forward entries.

200 possessions and 1 shot goal from our midfield says it all about our gameplan

Do our midfielders actually enter our forwardline???

bigcarl · Post: # 928574Post **bigcarl** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:03pm

older saint wrote:Had plenty of the ball but delivery is terrible

i agree with that. it's windy and the delivery has been poor. but the guys on the end of it are also a concern.

terry smith rules · Sun 23 May 2010 7:03pm

dominating but trying to be too cute in the conditions accross the centre.

get it in quick to the big guys and bring it to ground with milne and schneider

we are trying to play etihad footy on a ground with wind and rain

KISS

Legendary · Post: # 928576Post **Legendary** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:03pm

henno wrote:although mckinley is killing us, its a good sign that josh kenneddy who has been there most dangerous forward this year is being well held, as is mark lecras.

We've kept their two most dangerous forwards to no score and hardly a kick, and we're still behind

zebraman · Post: # 928577Post **zebraman** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:04pm

One thing inSaints favour is they're playing pretty crap and only 6 points down..

clarky449 · Post: # 928578Post **clarky449** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:04pm

For people blaming our gameplan, you have got no idea

plugger66 · Post: # 928579Post **plugger66** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:04pm

fugazi wrote:Gwilt playing very well, strong , composed and skilful

Zac..........a joke

Heyne needs to give us something

We look better structure - wise with Stanley there

McEvoy having a bit of influence

If we stop kicking out on the full, we could win this.

Gwilt has had 4 goals and 3 behinds kicked on him. Easily worst on the ground at half time but he has 2 quarters to redeem himself.

noob · Post: # 928580Post **noob** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:04pm

having zac on the ground is like playing with 17 men

3rd generation saint · Sun 23 May 2010 7:05pm

Actually, Raph, with the exception of that one kick where he had way too much time to think about it, is having a good game too.
Gilbert, Gwilt and Raph need to run and carry the ball more.
Sam Fisher needs to do something.
Schneider, put him half forward and tell him to stay there and see if he can kick some goals with his few kicks.
McQualter, best thing he could do is drop the Eagles forward and get weeks.

bigcarl · Post: # 928582Post **bigcarl** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:05pm

plugger66 wrote:Gwilt has had 4 goals and 3 behinds kicked on him. Easily worst on the ground at half time but he has 2 quarters to redeem himself.

you'd think it might be time to move him.

plugger66 · Post: # 928583Post **plugger66** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:06pm

bigcarl wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Gwilt has had 4 goals and 3 behinds kicked on him. Easily worst on the ground at half time but he has 2 quarters to redeem himself.
you'd think it might be time to move him.

Only about 2 goals ago.

Statsman · Post: # 928586Post **Statsman** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:06pm

bigcarl wrote:goddard to ff in the second half is an absolute no brainer in my opinion.

we're dominating around the ground but cannot put it on the board. another four goals in the second half isn't going to win it for us.

throw kosi in the ruck. he is a low percentage option at ff and isn't a good enough forward to be the main focal point.

Goddard certainly needs to have an impact on the game. He's had 12 touches, but nothing to great effect. In fact a couple of real shockers trying to spot up targets inside 50.

They need to find some way to utilise Kosi. He has little impact in the forward line unless the ball is gift wrapped and served up to him on a platter. Sadly, our midfield is incapable of providing that kind of service. Perhaps we should try hitting him on the lead and hope for a "chopping the arms" free kick - it's about the only way he gets a kick these days. A run in the ruck might at least get him involved in the game.

Devilhead · Post: # 928587Post **Devilhead** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:08pm

TIME TO STAND UP SAINTERS!!!!!!!!!!

saint66au · Post: # 928588Post **saint66au** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:08pm

plugger66 wrote:
fugazi wrote:Gwilt playing very well, strong , composed and skilful

Zac..........a joke

Heyne needs to give us something

We look better structure - wise with Stanley there

McEvoy having a bit of influence

If we stop kicking out on the full, we could win this.
Gwilt has had 4 goals and 3 behinds kicked on him. Easily worst on the ground at half time but he has 2 quarters to redeem himself.

Im only listening on radio but FanFooty is saying Chipper is on McKinley....and Raph on LeCras.

Devilhead · Post: # 928589Post **Devilhead** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:09pm

Fisher to McKinley

clarky449 · Post: # 928590Post **clarky449** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:10pm

saint66au wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
fugazi wrote:Gwilt playing very well, strong , composed and skilful

Zac..........a joke

Heyne needs to give us something

We look better structure - wise with Stanley there

McEvoy having a bit of influence

If we stop kicking out on the full, we could win this.
Gwilt has had 4 goals and 3 behinds kicked on him. Easily worst on the ground at half time but he has 2 quarters to redeem himself.
Im only listening on radio but FanFooty is saying Chipper is on McKinley....and Raph on LeCras.

Nah im pretty sure ive seen Gwilt playing on him

Ghost Like · Post: # 928591Post **Ghost Like** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:10pm

Devilhead wrote:
Statsman wrote:
dcstkfc wrote:Best at half time: Hayes, Dal Santo, Montagna, Milne.
Our three midfielders are among the best on ground yet we cannot translate in to effective forward entries.
200 possessions and 1 shot goal from our midfield says it all about our gameplan

Do our midfielders actually enter our forwardline???

No because we have 3 defenders who can't move the ball forward. Blake, Dawson and Baker's kicks can't be trusted when hitting up someone ahead of the play that's why BJ & Dal have to spend so much time there.

plugger66 · Post: # 928592Post **plugger66** » Sun 23 May 2010 7:10pm

saint66au wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
fugazi wrote:Gwilt playing very well, strong , composed and skilful

Zac..........a joke

Heyne needs to give us something

We look better structure - wise with Stanley there

McEvoy having a bit of influence

If we stop kicking out on the full, we could win this.
Gwilt has had 4 goals and 3 behinds kicked on him. Easily worst on the ground at half time but he has 2 quarters to redeem himself.
Im only listening on radio but FanFooty is saying Chipper is on McKinley....and Raph on LeCras.

Not from what I have seen.