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Thanks for the apology.Thinline wrote:Weren't you the muppet trumpeting the explosive existence of a damaging gay video that would tip the football world on its head?manoffewwords wrote:What video?
Apologies if you weren't.
I just think it's important to 'out' gossip spreading muck early.
Lessons learned and all that...
Maybe you should have checked your facts before labeling someone.
Check my posts and show us where I did this.
Post quotes of them too as seing as you have made a false accusation
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Have it your way...Was sure your 'name' had come up in discussion...If this ain't giving air to brainless speculation then I don't know what is...
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I have no bone particular bone to pick. I just can't stand gutter lurkers even remotely big noting themselves by reference to scurrilous bulls***....
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I have no bone particular bone to pick. I just can't stand gutter lurkers even remotely big noting themselves by reference to scurrilous bulls***....
"The inches we need are everywhere around us. They're in every break in the game. Every minute, every second. On this team we fight for that inch. On this team we tear ourselves and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's gonna make the f***in' difference between winning and losing! Between living and dying!'
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Mate you were clearly making a gossipy insinuation and two and two equalled what I stated.
Bark at the moon all you like, mate. It won't bark back.
Alternatively you could just acknowledge that you bought a rumour hook, line and sinker, rounded off the edges by claiming 'oh I hope it ain't so' but regardless played your part in trying to flash about a healthy does of BS a to make yourself feel good.
You're not the first. Caro's exactly the same.
Bark at the moon all you like, mate. It won't bark back.
Alternatively you could just acknowledge that you bought a rumour hook, line and sinker, rounded off the edges by claiming 'oh I hope it ain't so' but regardless played your part in trying to flash about a healthy does of BS a to make yourself feel good.
You're not the first. Caro's exactly the same.
"The inches we need are everywhere around us. They're in every break in the game. Every minute, every second. On this team we fight for that inch. On this team we tear ourselves and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's gonna make the f***in' difference between winning and losing! Between living and dying!'
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To a degree you are right. I had heard a rumour, joined a thread that was already started about said rumour and then looked for input from others via a PM , clearly stating that it was ar rumour and that I found it very hard to belive. I didnt mention any details and refused to pass on any details to any of the people who PM'd me.
I could agree with you totally if I had Passed on what I had heard or even swapped it via PM. This didnt happen. I do agree with what you say about unsubstatiated Muck raking but take exception of you accusing someone of something that didnt happen. When you make accusations check your facts. I agree I did add to the massing throng and take your point in regard to that.
I notice you also posted in the same thread adding to its exposure and longevity.
As For Caro doing exactly the same thing you are, imo, again mistaken.
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I could agree with you totally if I had Passed on what I had heard or even swapped it via PM. This didnt happen. I do agree with what you say about unsubstatiated Muck raking but take exception of you accusing someone of something that didnt happen. When you make accusations check your facts. I agree I did add to the massing throng and take your point in regard to that.
I notice you also posted in the same thread adding to its exposure and longevity.
As For Caro doing exactly the same thing you are, imo, again mistaken.
MOFW
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So, you gonna buy a membership now?manoffewwords wrote:To a degree you are right. I had heard a rumour, joined a thread that was already started about said rumour and then looked for input from others via a PM , clearly stating that it was ar rumour and that I found it very hard to belive. I didnt mention any details and refused to pass on any details to any of the people who PM'd me.
I could agree with you totally if I had Passed on what I had heard or even swapped it via PM. This didnt happen. I do agree with what you say about unsubstatiated Muck raking but take exception of you accusing someone of something that didnt happen. When you make accusations check your facts. I agree I did add to the massing throng and take your point in regard to that.
I notice you also posted in the same thread adding to its exposure and longevity.
As For Caro doing exactly the same thing you are, imo, again mistaken.
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Fair Question.
If Fact I had already bought a membership as it renews automatically.
My dilema was in other information that had been passed onto me, and me feeling pretty uncomforatble about it. It had nothing to do with any rumoured videos!!!
I discussed the issues with my son, (17) and for him the focus was about watching footy not all of these other Drama's, So in the end I am going with his wisdom. Sticking with them and attending every game for another season. I still have a problem with the club but I'll get over it. As we are well aware, this is such a mess of lies the truth even if it were to come out will never be believed.
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If Fact I had already bought a membership as it renews automatically.
My dilema was in other information that had been passed onto me, and me feeling pretty uncomforatble about it. It had nothing to do with any rumoured videos!!!
I discussed the issues with my son, (17) and for him the focus was about watching footy not all of these other Drama's, So in the end I am going with his wisdom. Sticking with them and attending every game for another season. I still have a problem with the club but I'll get over it. As we are well aware, this is such a mess of lies the truth even if it were to come out will never be believed.
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You were a bit stronger about it than that...and rather than posting it as a rumour...you were stating that you knew the truth...manoffewwords wrote:To a degree you are right. I had heard a rumour, joined a thread that was already started about said rumour
Though at least your wish seems to have been granted.manoffewwords wrote:Bad for us Yes.
Bad for the club administration, Yes.
Bad for a couple of players and one in particular, Yes
However.
I really don't think it will see the light of day.
there is only 1 person who can collaborate the true story and they have been shut down and from what i know, it is very unlikely that this person will speak. The hand full of other people who know definitely wont.
Caro has lodged many requests for an exclusive and they have all been ignored.
You know what , I wish the truth would come out so we can move on. until it does its always going to be hanging there. In a way I wish i wasnt told the truth this week. I could have gone on in ignorance and not been fussed about the whole mess
While I still support the players and want to go and watch them play each week I dont want to be a member anymore.
I bet R Nixon knows the truth. It will be interesting to see what he will do with it if he is de-registered and treated badly by the AFL and feels aggrieved?
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Caro would be desperate to put the boots into us right now if she could and IMO opinion the reason why her source is not being forthcoming is because they actually have nothing to be forthcoming about.
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Incorrect Saintrising, you are confusing two issues, The Video was a rumour that was being discussed, I clearly stated in my posts i knew nothing about that.
As for other matters I had information that I regard as true.
Dont confuse the video issue with the other.
As for the Truth I still dont believe it has come out and I said I dont think it will. As for the source they have plenty to say but have been totally closed down.
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As for other matters I had information that I regard as true.
Dont confuse the video issue with the other.
As for the Truth I still dont believe it has come out and I said I dont think it will. As for the source they have plenty to say but have been totally closed down.
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In other words you are perpetuating the potential viability of information that may not even exist but you nevertheless maintain may be damaging or controversial.manoffewwords wrote:Incorrect Saintrising, you are confusing two issues, The Video was a rumour that was being discussed, I clearly stated in my posts i knew nothing about that.
As for other matters I had information that I regard as true.
Dont confuse the video issue with the other.
As for the Truth I still dont believe it has come out and I said I dont think it will. As for the source they have plenty to say but have been totally closed down.
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Why bother perpetuating myth?
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You are contemplating out loud the existence of some kind of smoking gun for no apparent reasons other than, as far as I can tell, the sake of it, to be mischievous, to draw attention to yourself or simply to fuel gossip.
What's the point?
Seriously?
I don't understand why.
What's the point?
Seriously?
I don't understand why.
"The inches we need are everywhere around us. They're in every break in the game. Every minute, every second. On this team we fight for that inch. On this team we tear ourselves and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's gonna make the f***in' difference between winning and losing! Between living and dying!'
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I am sorry you have trouble understanding but I agree with you, keeping the discussion going is not useful for anyone, the conversation is only keeping the controversy going.
I initially posted the comment that the 60 minutes story should be seen as the full stop not neccesarily the Truth. It was your incorrect accusations that had the conversations go down the track of the video and SainterK's confusion of two issues that opened the other door. Neither one I felt the need to go back to. but was happy to answer questions when pressed. If you didnt want it to go this way maybe you shouldnt have opened the door.
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I initially posted the comment that the 60 minutes story should be seen as the full stop not neccesarily the Truth. It was your incorrect accusations that had the conversations go down the track of the video and SainterK's confusion of two issues that opened the other door. Neither one I felt the need to go back to. but was happy to answer questions when pressed. If you didnt want it to go this way maybe you shouldnt have opened the door.
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So you've effectively started another rumour!manoffewwords wrote:My dilema was in other information that had been passed onto me, and me feeling pretty uncomforatble about it. It had nothing to do with any rumoured videos!!!
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Anyone can "big note" themselves with a "I know something that you don't know - but I can't say" schoolboy boastful talk.
Then if something emerges you claim you were "in the know" and if something doesn't emerge you say "well done to the club for suppressing it".
Either way it is pathetic, childish behaviour.
Basically state your rumour and source or stop undermining the club and STFU.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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So let's assume that you are stating the truth and you have received "uncomfortable" information.
You had two options
1) simply keep it too yourself and not do anything to create further damage to your club by posting allusions to the rumour on a public forum.
2) rush to impress everyone at how well connected you are by referring to this disturbing rumour (so disturbing a family conference was held to determine if memberships should be cancelled) but of course declining to offer any details.
You had two options
1) simply keep it too yourself and not do anything to create further damage to your club by posting allusions to the rumour on a public forum.
2) rush to impress everyone at how well connected you are by referring to this disturbing rumour (so disturbing a family conference was held to determine if memberships should be cancelled) but of course declining to offer any details.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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But you asked for the rumour to be stated??
You think thats a good thing do you?
Maybe if you are interested you should go back through the relevant threads and posts in context and find out the facts of what was discussed. Have an understanding of where I was coming from and then have a conversation.
good luck
You think thats a good thing do you?
Maybe if you are interested you should go back through the relevant threads and posts in context and find out the facts of what was discussed. Have an understanding of where I was coming from and then have a conversation.
good luck
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Might of just found out why todaySainterK wrote:He did, and then the club undid it?oneteam wrote:Politicly coorrect or not, at least he stood up for the players and called her out for what she was. A liar and that we had to chase thelegal approach to try to get to the truth.fingers wrote:He is.Eastern wrote:What that proved to me;
Ross Levin is a very good lawyer !!
Eddie or kennet would have stood up for their players, and at least our club had someone do that for our club.
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Speaking on the AFL’s official website, Demetriou said he felt sympathy for the players caught up in the scandal - centrally Sam Gilbert - but regretted the Saints’ bullish words immediately after the scandal broke.
“The St Kilda players I have sympathy for because as has been proven they had not done what they alleged to have done and have had to live with that for a number of months,â€