I haven't.bigcarl wrote:We ought to get a good player for pick 21. I'm not convinced Stanley will make it, but I've been wrong before.
Rhys Stanley for Pick #21
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Pick 14?MC Gusto wrote:Uh oh
bidding war!!
Freo sniffing about Stanley...this could work out very well for the saints!!
Do it Rossco and all will be forgiven!
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SEEING EARLY CAREY
Con I remember seeing Carey over the fence @ Moorabbin - could have been 1992, anyway as a a young player he really looked like a serious force charging around the field and keeping in front of his persuers.
He looked very involved and comfortable out there. And the 46 goals well there you are.
Rhys has never struck me as being adequetly switched on enough for the responsibility that goes with being a big guy. Hey he could simply be a late developer and might be only now ready yo exert his utmost on the field of play. He still could become a very good player, 'Could' being the operative word. With my original impression of Carey (around 1992) i was convinced that he would be a seriously good player.
Geewrong could have better success with their famous system than us but i'm now interested in who we might get with that Pick # 21??.
If he stays or goes i could go either way.
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He looked very involved and comfortable out there. And the 46 goals well there you are.
Rhys has never struck me as being adequetly switched on enough for the responsibility that goes with being a big guy. Hey he could simply be a late developer and might be only now ready yo exert his utmost on the field of play. He still could become a very good player, 'Could' being the operative word. With my original impression of Carey (around 1992) i was convinced that he would be a seriously good player.
Geewrong could have better success with their famous system than us but i'm now interested in who we might get with that Pick # 21??.
If he stays or goes i could go either way.
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The boy can play and we can build a defence around him that will have respect.
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Re: Rhys Stanley for Pick #21
Con Gorozidis wrote:Pick 14?MC Gusto wrote:Uh oh
bidding war!!
Freo sniffing about Stanley...this could work out very well for the saints!!
Do it Rossco and all will be forgiven!
agreed - do it, do it, do it..........!!!
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Re: Rhys Stanley for Pick #21
Pick 14 for Stanley would be very good
Do we want to help Ross win a flag??
still
picks 1, 14, 22, 41 not bad:)
Do we want to help Ross win a flag??
still
picks 1, 14, 22, 41 not bad:)
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Re: Rhys Stanley for Pick #21
Getting pick 21 could possibly give us leverage for another trade in which we could upgrade our picks. I wouldn't like to see Stanley go for just pick 21, though. The only rationale I can see is that it would open up our position to close off other deals that work to our advantage. Could end up being another Matthew Lappin scenario, otherwise.
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Re: Rhys Stanley for Pick #21
I'd be dangling his name in front of Adelaide. He's from Adelaide, and no doubt he'd like to return there. Pick 10 would be a win.
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Re: Rhys Stanley for Pick #21
Fkn...
This could be an "I told you so thread".
If the price is right... Pick 14 would make it feel better.
Stanley could still develop. And we have several years invested already.
This could be an "I told you so thread".
If the price is right... Pick 14 would make it feel better.
Stanley could still develop. And we have several years invested already.
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Re: Rhys Stanley for Pick #21
Rubbish statement!Sobraz wrote:Brad Ottens was a previous pick 2 and had shown a very high level of ability, just needed to get out of the Tigers who couldnt develop him enough.tweedaletomanning wrote:Smells like a "Brad Ottens" Scenario.
We have developed a speculative pick into a first rounder in return, and he has arguably reached his ceiling.
Comparing Stanley to Ottens is like comparing Fiora to Fyfe.
Wait till Rhys finishes his career completely, and THEN make the call!
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Berri.cwrcyn wrote:I'd be dangling his name in front of Adelaide. He's from Adelaide, and no doubt he'd like to return there. Pick 10 would be a win.
239km from Adelaide.
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Re: Rhys Stanley for Pick #21
exactly...a proven afl playert for a pig in a poke...no way....Con Gorozidis wrote:Aint enough!
113 marks last year. Pick 14 please.
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Seriously...you would trade him for pick 14??stinger wrote:exactly...a proven afl playert for a pig in a poke...no way....Con Gorozidis wrote:Aint enough!
113 marks last year. Pick 14 please.
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stinger wrote:exactly...a proven afl playert for a pig in a poke...no way....Con Gorozidis wrote:Aint enough!
113 marks last year. Pick 14 please.
Actually 121 marks...
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For 14? yes. Real quick.andrewg wrote:Seriously...you would trade him for pick 14??stinger wrote:exactly...a proven afl playert for a pig in a poke...no way....Con Gorozidis wrote:Aint enough!
113 marks last year. Pick 14 please.
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Re: Rhys Stanley for Pick #21
Don't like the trade to Geelong. Pick 21 isn't enough.
Stanley has just arrived IMO and with NRoo nearing the end of his career and big fwds who can take a grab few and far between think this is a bad idea.
Pick 14 would be closer to his value and I'd be a lot happier with that but even then would have some misgivings about trading him. He will be a good player.
Stanley has just arrived IMO and with NRoo nearing the end of his career and big fwds who can take a grab few and far between think this is a bad idea.
Pick 14 would be closer to his value and I'd be a lot happier with that but even then would have some misgivings about trading him. He will be a good player.
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Re: Rhys Stanley for Pick #21
Having two successive picks is always a good thing to have, though.
21 and 22 should give us something, at least. The pick 22 allows us to choose the player we want without another club jumping in ahead of us. Hopefully it'll be someone like Lewis Taylor, who got selected at 28 last year
21 and 22 should give us something, at least. The pick 22 allows us to choose the player we want without another club jumping in ahead of us. Hopefully it'll be someone like Lewis Taylor, who got selected at 28 last year
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Does that mean Richmond gave up on Taylor for Hampson - or was Hampson the year before?cwrcyn wrote:Having two successive picks is always a good thing to have, though.
21 and 22 should give us something, at least. The pick 22 allows us to choose the player we want without another club jumping in ahead of us. Hopefully it'll be someone like Lewis Taylor, who got selected at 28 last year
Huge screw up if true.
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My bad. Hampson was actually pick 32!FQF wrote:Does that mean Richmond gave up on Taylor for Hampson - or was Hampson the year before?cwrcyn wrote:Having two successive picks is always a good thing to have, though.
21 and 22 should give us something, at least. The pick 22 allows us to choose the player we want without another club jumping in ahead of us. Hopefully it'll be someone like Lewis Taylor, who got selected at 28 last year
Huge screw up if true.
Carlton used that to get Everitt + Cameron Giles.
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Re: Rhys Stanley for Pick #21
how has Stanley finally arrived ?? he looked good in patches in 3 games last year other than that it was same old same old from him ... he may improve signifigantly with better delivery but the fact is he isnt going to get that from us for a fair while yet .. as for sending him to freo over geelong basically whoever offers more and where Rhys wants to go is all that matters
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Re: Rhys Stanley for Pick #21
I was really impressed with Rhys' kicking at goal this season. Regularly went back and slotted shots from 50-55m, seemed like his confidence was really building. Another pre-season or two and some decent supply and you could imagine him easily going to next level. With that in mind #21 is a bit of a gamble for mine.
Having said that we don't know what other deals are in the pipeline, it's different looking at a lone trade in isolation compared to seeing it as part of a combination of moves etc
Having said that we don't know what other deals are in the pipeline, it's different looking at a lone trade in isolation compared to seeing it as part of a combination of moves etc
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Re: Rhys Stanley for Pick #21
Honestly how good do people think Stanley will become?
Forget the ultra top liners, so as good as Jack Riewoldt/ Taylor Walker??.. No hope.
Josh Kennedy (WCE)? Kurt Tippet? Also no hope, so let's go a tier lower.
Will he be as good as Chris Dawes? I think Dawes has him covered, although it's a toss up.
I'd just like some feedback as to a comparison as to how good he'll become, after 5 full seasons in the system?
Brad Ottens was used before.. As I mentioned, former number 2 draft pick and real natural footballer, is a terrible comparison. Ottens is 4 times the player.
Forget the ultra top liners, so as good as Jack Riewoldt/ Taylor Walker??.. No hope.
Josh Kennedy (WCE)? Kurt Tippet? Also no hope, so let's go a tier lower.
Will he be as good as Chris Dawes? I think Dawes has him covered, although it's a toss up.
I'd just like some feedback as to a comparison as to how good he'll become, after 5 full seasons in the system?
Brad Ottens was used before.. As I mentioned, former number 2 draft pick and real natural footballer, is a terrible comparison. Ottens is 4 times the player.
Re: Rhys Stanley for Pick #21
Trade looks pretty even on paper, short term they win , long term could easily be us. However there is no insurance policy for dud picks, could effectively be giving him away for a guy who can't cope in afl. So I would have to lean towards a sweetener in the deal like a player or better pick.
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Re: Rhys Stanley for Pick #21
See I think Stanley is about the equivalent sort of footballer to Hampson. They've done about the same in their careers and I don't think Rhys will ever make it to 100 games.Con Gorozidis wrote:
21 doesnt seem enough. By comparison Hampson went at 28 last year. Rhys is a lot better than Hampson.
So I reckon this is a good trade, and allows us to fill more of a need than Stanley meets.
Put it another way: Rhys Stanley won't be the difference between us winning or losing a flag in 2018/2019.
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Who looked more likely at the same age, Stanley or Jay Schultz?
I think that's the danger. I'd be iffy, but hopeful about pick 21. If we snagged another Luke Dunstan (leadership/ability wise, not necessarily the same type of player) , and Membrey translates his reserve form to the firsts.... Along with Petracca, ignoring pick 22, we'd have capitalised on last years draft in a big way.
I think that's the danger. I'd be iffy, but hopeful about pick 21. If we snagged another Luke Dunstan (leadership/ability wise, not necessarily the same type of player) , and Membrey translates his reserve form to the firsts.... Along with Petracca, ignoring pick 22, we'd have capitalised on last years draft in a big way.