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Should he be reported for striking the turf? !!plugger66 wrote:The problem with what you say is it was holding the ball before he went into his back. Just look at the Lions player reaction when the decision was paid. He thought it was against him. Give me your address I will send you a rule book.maverick wrote:Course you do, Dawson jumped on his back, its a free, they always pay it, we can all read the rules, its the interpreting that's the hard bit, well for you anyway.......plugger66 wrote:Thats probably because I know the rules and you dont.maverick wrote:Actually the other way round IMO, but you keep reporting them as fact, as alwaysplugger66 wrote:That was the right decision but the one against Dawson was wrong.henno wrote:how the hell can jack steven see that the brisbane guy he tackled has 'let go' of the ball if he's tackling him??!!
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Thats probably because he has a feel for the game and you know jack sh11ttplugger66 wrote:Thats probably because I know the rules and you dont.maverick wrote:Actually the other way round IMO, but you keep reporting them as fact, as alwaysplugger66 wrote:That was the right decision but the one against Dawson was wrong.henno wrote:how the hell can jack steven see that the brisbane guy he tackled has 'let go' of the ball if he's tackling him??!!
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Atrocious first half. Sloppy second half but with a bit of endevour.
Positives
Steven, McEvoy, Geary and Heyne occasionally showed a bit. Even Eljay was involved in a nice couple of passages. None are AFL ready though.
BJ is a genuine star of the comp
Ray looks like he'll be a reasonable backup mid
Raph continued his good form of late 08
Negatives
We have a lot of crap players. Gwilt and Jones simply make too many mistakes under any sort of pressure.
Maguire looks very ordinary.
Howard showed nothing.
Begley and Dawson look like 'nothing picks'. Will be good for Sandy but neither up to AFL footy.
Our coaching staff are still in a ridiculously negative mindset and take far too long to respond. Tonight was a carbon copy of many 07/08 games. We break even in a boring first quarter. Let the game slide away in the second. Peg back a little ground in the third and then kick a few in the final quarter when it's too late.
The umpiring was terrible. High contact and HTB interpretations were absolutely disgraceful.
To lose a player to a collision with an umpire is pathetic. Would love to know how this happened.
Positives
Steven, McEvoy, Geary and Heyne occasionally showed a bit. Even Eljay was involved in a nice couple of passages. None are AFL ready though.
BJ is a genuine star of the comp
Ray looks like he'll be a reasonable backup mid
Raph continued his good form of late 08
Negatives
We have a lot of crap players. Gwilt and Jones simply make too many mistakes under any sort of pressure.
Maguire looks very ordinary.
Howard showed nothing.
Begley and Dawson look like 'nothing picks'. Will be good for Sandy but neither up to AFL footy.
Our coaching staff are still in a ridiculously negative mindset and take far too long to respond. Tonight was a carbon copy of many 07/08 games. We break even in a boring first quarter. Let the game slide away in the second. Peg back a little ground in the third and then kick a few in the final quarter when it's too late.
The umpiring was terrible. High contact and HTB interpretations were absolutely disgraceful.
To lose a player to a collision with an umpire is pathetic. Would love to know how this happened.
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I will add that to list of people who no nothing about the rules or the feel of a game of footy. Dont worry you arent alone. there are plent of people without knowledge in with you.BallBanger wrote:Thats probably because he has a feel for the game and you know jack sh11ttplugger66 wrote:Thats probably because I know the rules and you dont.maverick wrote:Actually the other way round IMO, but you keep reporting them as fact, as alwaysplugger66 wrote:That was the right decision but the one against Dawson was wrong.henno wrote:how the hell can jack steven see that the brisbane guy he tackled has 'let go' of the ball if he's tackling him??!!
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we wont, honestly how are we going to win with our current team? once reiwoldt/hayes gets injured no1 good will be able 2 replace them. No depth and we got smashed in the prelims. Our time was in 04/05 and we blew it.ralphysaints35 wrote:piss offpickle_weasel wrote:pickle = realist
i dont think st kilda will ever win another premiership, harvs did the right move to go to carlton. atleast he'll have some success there unlike st kilda.
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plugger66 wrote:The problem with what you say is it was holding the ball before he went into his back. Just look at the Lions player reaction when the decision was paid. He thought it was against him. Give me your address I will send you a rule book.maverick wrote:Course you do, Dawson jumped on his back, its a free, they always pay it, we can all read the rules, its the interpreting that's the hard bit, well for you anyway.......plugger66 wrote:Thats probably because I know the rules and you dont.maverick wrote:Actually the other way round IMO, but you keep reporting them as fact, as alwaysplugger66 wrote:That was the right decision but the one against Dawson was wrong.henno wrote:how the hell can jack steven see that the brisbane guy he tackled has 'let go' of the ball if he's tackling him??!!
**** u moron we all know the rules but the umps don't understand the consistancies...go by the rules and you could pay 3000 frees a game wanker
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A few observations
Why do we wait til we are 8 goals behind before we use the corridor?
Leigh Fisher might be killing them in endurance but his disposal twice in a minute cost us. A grubbing kick followed by one that sailed over Gilbo's head.
BJ is gonna rip this comp apart. What a game![Smile :-)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
I wish Dal would run with the ball more and not keep just stopping and persisting with that stupid "come at me" hand wave.
Liked Gearys game a lot and both Steven and Eljay were good after 1/2 time
McEvoy has good hands but looks slow
Heyne's got smarts but we are pretty flush for players with suspect disposal
Zac Dawson wont be elevated anytime soon on that performance
Great to see Goose running around getting touches
Ray got better as the game went on but seems wasted if we refuse to run and carry the ball and just chip it around all day
Overall, pleased with the comeback but if that had been a real game Brown/Bradshaw would have torn us apart in the first half and it would have been game over at 1/2 time. Our disposal inside fifty was so indirect that even with Roo and Kosi out there we'd have had most of our shots at goal hard up against the boundary, such was our obsession with going round the flanks
8 goals in a game isnt anywhere near good enough..and it was far more to do with our structure then the weather
Votes (just for the hell of it)
5. BJ
4. Geary
3. Chipper
2. Gilbert
1. Dal
AH well...will be a cheaper preseason than last year lol
Why do we wait til we are 8 goals behind before we use the corridor?
Leigh Fisher might be killing them in endurance but his disposal twice in a minute cost us. A grubbing kick followed by one that sailed over Gilbo's head.
BJ is gonna rip this comp apart. What a game
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I wish Dal would run with the ball more and not keep just stopping and persisting with that stupid "come at me" hand wave.
Liked Gearys game a lot and both Steven and Eljay were good after 1/2 time
McEvoy has good hands but looks slow
Heyne's got smarts but we are pretty flush for players with suspect disposal
Zac Dawson wont be elevated anytime soon on that performance
Great to see Goose running around getting touches
Ray got better as the game went on but seems wasted if we refuse to run and carry the ball and just chip it around all day
Overall, pleased with the comeback but if that had been a real game Brown/Bradshaw would have torn us apart in the first half and it would have been game over at 1/2 time. Our disposal inside fifty was so indirect that even with Roo and Kosi out there we'd have had most of our shots at goal hard up against the boundary, such was our obsession with going round the flanks
8 goals in a game isnt anywhere near good enough..and it was far more to do with our structure then the weather
Votes (just for the hell of it)
5. BJ
4. Geary
3. Chipper
2. Gilbert
1. Dal
AH well...will be a cheaper preseason than last year lol
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ok great, what would you pay if a player fumbles the ball, loses it as he is tackled...... (had a chance to mark it and dispose of it)......plugger66 wrote:Thats probably because I know the rules and you dont.maverick wrote:Actually the other way round IMO, but you keep reporting them as fact, as alwaysplugger66 wrote:That was the right decision but the one against Dawson was wrong.henno wrote:how the hell can jack steven see that the brisbane guy he tackled has 'let go' of the ball if he's tackling him??!!
at worst that should be play on, perhaps holding the ball... but holdin the man??? HUH??
The thing that summed up the night as far as the umpires was concerned was when there was a 50/50 and the commentator says "free kick to brisbane.... um no st kilda" in a very suprised voice.
Lets be honest, the umpiring was very home side and very tiggy touch. we didn't help by not being clean with our disposal and slow moving forward sometimes.
Dal looks lost sometimes and needs to run harder to create and use te first option better. He sits and looks for the perfect option when sometimes it's better to back your team mate with the quick option.
Gwilt showed a little more in that third term and if he can produce that for 4 quarters and remember he is a booming kick then he just might make it.
The youngsters started running in numbers, jack was very good, LJ did a couple of nice things. Heynes uses his body well and can find the ball. Thought raphs second half was an improvement. Mcenvoy is struggling to find the ball but has a lovely set of hands. Need to look long term with him.
BJ will rip this comp apart this year. Was the story of that second half, went forward and lifted the team. Chips looked better for the hit out and goose was unlucky not to have a shot to put us within 3 points.
Lastly, WTF is the go with the 9 pointer rule? Play on means play on...... if you decide to run outside 50 and thus have stopped the protection of the free kick then you deserve the 9 points. The umpires point that the free kick inside 50 means nothing.... bulls*** umpiring from a poor night from the umpires. Will not watch any non saints games if they decide to umpire like that for both sides.....
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Please give me your address. How can I inform you of your lack of knowledge without it or should I swear more to get my point across.BallBanger wrote:plugger66 wrote:The problem with what you say is it was holding the ball before he went into his back. Just look at the Lions player reaction when the decision was paid. He thought it was against him. Give me your address I will send you a rule book.maverick wrote:Course you do, Dawson jumped on his back, its a free, they always pay it, we can all read the rules, its the interpreting that's the hard bit, well for you anyway.......plugger66 wrote:Thats probably because I know the rules and you dont.maverick wrote:Actually the other way round IMO, but you keep reporting them as fact, as alwaysplugger66 wrote:That was the right decision but the one against Dawson was wrong.henno wrote:how the hell can jack steven see that the brisbane guy he tackled has 'let go' of the ball if he's tackling him??!!
**** u moron we all know the rules but the umps don't understand the consistancies...go by the rules and you could pay 3000 frees a game wanker
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No need to swear your point is across us all, its useless as always, but across us none the less.....plugger66 wrote:Please give me your address. How can I inform you of your lack of knowledge without it or should I swear more to get my point across.BallBanger wrote:plugger66 wrote:The problem with what you say is it was holding the ball before he went into his back. Just look at the Lions player reaction when the decision was paid. He thought it was against him. Give me your address I will send you a rule book.maverick wrote:Course you do, Dawson jumped on his back, its a free, they always pay it, we can all read the rules, its the interpreting that's the hard bit, well for you anyway.......plugger66 wrote:Thats probably because I know the rules and you dont.maverick wrote:Actually the other way round IMO, but you keep reporting them as fact, as alwaysplugger66 wrote:That was the right decision but the one against Dawson was wrong.henno wrote:how the hell can jack steven see that the brisbane guy he tackled has 'let go' of the ball if he's tackling him??!!
**** u moron we all know the rules but the umps don't understand the consistancies...go by the rules and you could pay 3000 frees a game wanker
By the way, Henderson clearly doesn't understand the rules, either that or you both have the same made up one....
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He did stuff up most of his opportunities but at least he was trying to create something. I'd much rather see a kid miss a shot at goal or an ambiguous long kick into the forward line than stuff up another sideways 15m chip kick.Sam23 wrote:I thought Heyne was poor except for one good mark.
A few 'hungry' shots at goal just prior to half time and after taking a mark on the wing kicked to a brisbane player, but was luckily spoiled by Gardiner.
Just the fact that he was getting himself into potentially damaging situations was the main positive. He knows how to hurt teams, he just needs to settle down a bit, lose the nerves and make the most of his opportunities.
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u can't..do you find that people don't find it pleasurable to be near you..plugger66 wrote:Please give me your address. How can I inform you of your lack of knowledge without it or should I swear more to get my point across.BallBanger wrote:plugger66 wrote:The problem with what you say is it was holding the ball before he went into his back. Just look at the Lions player reaction when the decision was paid. He thought it was against him. Give me your address I will send you a rule book.maverick wrote:Course you do, Dawson jumped on his back, its a free, they always pay it, we can all read the rules, its the interpreting that's the hard bit, well for you anyway.......plugger66 wrote:Thats probably because I know the rules and you dont.maverick wrote:Actually the other way round IMO, but you keep reporting them as fact, as alwaysplugger66 wrote:That was the right decision but the one against Dawson was wrong.henno wrote:how the hell can jack steven see that the brisbane guy he tackled has 'let go' of the ball if he's tackling him??!!
**** u moron we all know the rules but the umps don't understand the consistancies...go by the rules and you could pay 3000 frees a game wanker
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