barks4eva wrote:saintsRrising wrote:
I also know that when Ross arrived that he was stunned in the Saints incompetence in the area off player conditionaing and and fitness and demanded that this be addressed. GT left a mess.
I also know after speaking to an ex-Saints Club Doc that under the previous regime that player conditioning was a joke with medical advice not always followed and failure to have individual fitness plans for players to the extent required for modern football.Y
ou prattle on about the fitness of our players being the only issue....but completely disregard the clear incompetence of the former coach in this regard who insisted on full responsibilty and accountabilty in this are and got it....much to the cost of the St Kilda Football Club.
Well articulated and I absolutey agree 100%, as I did with the rest of what you wrote, but only quoted this part because it is the very issue that dodgy keeps prattling on about,
sure dodger is going to make the point that Thomas Maximus was messiah like for getting us to a preliminary final with a long injury list, but what he fails to recognize is the exact precise point you make sRr and that is that Thomas Maximus was largely to blame, for running the entire football department like a fair dinkum chook raffle, which in the end possibly cost us a premiership or two
now dodgy, back in your foxhole, you're completely owned
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Ahhh I see what this is about.
SR and B4Eva just won't let go.
It always comes back to GT doesn't it?
For two different reasons though. It's quite funny.......
B4Eva is a weirdo who is unable to be objective. Can't fathom the concept of neither loving nor hating someone. Once he no longer loved GT, he had to hate him.
Every post since has been about hating GT, and trying to convince others to do to the same.
Insecurity. Get more on 'your side'.
You're either with us, or against us!!
No concept of simply being impartial.
B4Eva, you need to understand, that because I don't hate GT, doesn't mean I love him.
Because people don't love Rod Butterss, doesn't mean everyone hates him.
We are all not like you.
I don't love GT - never have. Try to find one post where anything I say suggests I love him, or think he's some kind of messiah.
I thought he coached brilliantly at times, poorly at others. And I think he was incredibly underrated by many.
Love him? No.
Messiah? No.
Hate him? No.
The devil himself? No.
To be frank, he's just yet another guy who has crossed paths with the club I support. Nothing more.
It still puzzles me that because I disagreed with the sacking, and felt he was underrated that everything I post is construed as being pro-GT. It's just bizarre.
But then again, when dealing with people such as yourself - for the reasons listed above, it's not a surprise.
Now, onto SR.....
Doesn't hate GT, but thinks he's smarter than him. But he thinks he's smarter than anyone involved in any footy club. Oh, except 'Ross' and Mark Williams. the arrogance that comes across is unbelievable, and quite sickening.
Hell, he even noticed before anyone else in the footy world that West Coast had alot of rookies!! Genius!!
He's really struggling with GT, because all the bull**** reasons for us failing he came up with are slowly proving to be just that - bull****.
GT is making him look stupid.
We need rookies to win a flag. Nup - didn't work.
We need a game plan to win a flag. Nup - didn't work.
We need Neil Balme to win a flag. Nup - didn't work for 14 clubs.
Now we need some Yoga teaching guru to win a flag!!
Now, like others (and this was predicted at the time by many) who blamed our failure on GT and his lack of on-field couching nouse have been proven wrong - they're looking for ways out. Ways to protect their egos.
Just like Patrick Smith.
Everyone, including B4Eva and SR (the fool even re-posted it earlier) said all along that our list was good enough and it the only thing holding us back from a flag was Thomas and his coaching. I disagreed and said the only thing holding us back was being able to field 22 fit players consistently.
Now, like the cowards that they are, they refuse to acknowledge that they were wrong.
It shiits me.
It's not pro-GT - it's anti-knobs who crapped on about how good we would be if they were at the helm.
We changed coaches and went backwards. And now I watch them squirm and search for others things to blame on Thomas, rather than simply admitting that they got it wrong.