No, it is more like a troll...BigMart wrote:Another big game
2 kicks at 3q time
But that's only a stat
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Spot onBackFromUSA wrote:His possession rate for his role is excellent. His value in close is his blocks, support, ability to lock the ball in and extracate it when advatageous. Best when ball is in dispute. A warrior. As his body and fitness develops he will become Armitage like and then Lenny like. A 20 year old playing a role that is usually assigned to a mid 20s player. Already B grade in my mind. Will be A grade at 22 or 23 and elite and a leader at 25.
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How do u know?Con Gorozidis wrote:It is absurd to think Dunstan will be anywhere near as good as Lenny. Simply absurd. It isn't even worth debating. It simply won't happen. Dunstan might be a good player but he won't be close to Lenny. Hayes is a 3 x B& F winner and 3 x AA. I mean Dunstan may well be a good competent player for us - But Lenny is an all time great of the club. I mean it isnt a fair comparison.
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That because his views are so biased. We all can't be wrong!The Recruit wrote:Spot onBackFromUSA wrote:His possession rate for his role is excellent. His value in close is his blocks, support, ability to lock the ball in and extracate it when advatageous. Best when ball is in dispute. A warrior. As his body and fitness develops he will become Armitage like and then Lenny like. A 20 year old playing a role that is usually assigned to a mid 20s player. Already B grade in my mind. Will be A grade at 22 or 23 and elite and a leader at 25.
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Dunstan. Slow. Below average kick. At this stage he doesn't read the ball off the pack that well. However he is v determined and you couldn't question his endeavour. Weller seems to be growing out of his run-with role. Maybe Dunstan can grow into it.
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Totally agree Dunstan is.another of AR's.love childs, keeps.getting heaps of midfield time and cant damage the opposition.Hemi Baxter wrote:Dunstan. Slow. Below average kick. At this stage he doesn't read the ball off the pack that well. However he is v determined and you couldn't question his endeavour. Weller seems to be growing out of his run-with role. Maybe Dunstan can grow into it.
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I dont know 100% for sure but the odds are heavily stacked in my favour. Would you care to take a wager on it?The Recruit wrote:How do u know?Con Gorozidis wrote:It is absurd to think Dunstan will be anywhere near as good as Lenny. Simply absurd. It isn't even worth debating. It simply won't happen. Dunstan might be a good player but he won't be close to Lenny. Hayes is a 3 x B& F winner and 3 x AA. I mean Dunstan may well be a good competent player for us - But Lenny is an all time great of the club. I mean it isnt a fair comparison.
I'd say there is a 90% chance I am right. The odds of another Lenny coming along so soon are very slim and giving him the same jumper number wont make it more likely.
3 x B & F and 3 x AA. That will take some doing! Lenny is one of the top 10 players to ever play for the club. I mean. Come on. Get serious. It is a ridiculous comparison.
If Dunstan ends up a competent 200 game player who gets a few top 3 B & F finishes then I think we will all be happy. He doesnt need to be a club legend to have a great career. Comparing him to Lenny is simply unfair and unrealistic. If Dunstan ends up with one AA Id say hed be over the moon. But 3? Lenny got his first AA in 2003 at the age of 23.
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Nice to see some of us don't just see what we want to see
I've got absolutely nothing against Luke... I think he'll be a player, and also a leader.
But more of the Andrew Thompson level, not Elite like Len.
And ATM he is getting a free ride in the midfield with poor number (not for a third year player) for an inside Mid. Today he was 2 levels below what was required. Sadly Jack and Dave were 1 level below. Seb stood up.
He did his time in the VFL. Earned his spot.
I'd like to see Luke getting some 90% game time/30 possession games in the VFL.
I reckon if you put Templeton, Minchington, Acres, Gresham, Curren, Saunders in the midfield you'd get 15-20ppg
Dunstan is at 17.
I've got absolutely nothing against Luke... I think he'll be a player, and also a leader.
But more of the Andrew Thompson level, not Elite like Len.
And ATM he is getting a free ride in the midfield with poor number (not for a third year player) for an inside Mid. Today he was 2 levels below what was required. Sadly Jack and Dave were 1 level below. Seb stood up.
He did his time in the VFL. Earned his spot.
I'd like to see Luke getting some 90% game time/30 possession games in the VFL.
I reckon if you put Templeton, Minchington, Acres, Gresham, Curren, Saunders in the midfield you'd get 15-20ppg
Dunstan is at 17.
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You chop and change and so I do not really know what you are attempting to say except that you want Dunstan to play in the VFL.BigMart wrote:Nice to see some of us don't just see what we want to see
I've got absolutely nothing against Luke... I think he'll be a player, and also a leader.
But more of the Andrew Thompson level, not Elite like Len.
And ATM he is getting a free ride in the midfield with poor number (not for a third year player) for an inside Mid. Today he was 2 levels below what was required. Sadly Jack and Dave were 1 level below. Seb stood up.
He did his time in the VFL. Earned his spot.
I'd like to see Luke getting some 90% game time/30 possession games in the VFL.
I reckon if you put Templeton, Minchington, Acres, Gresham, Curren, Saunders in the midfield you'd get 15-20ppg
Dunstan is at 17.
Andrew Thompson averaged 17.4 disposals per game throughout his career.
His best season was 23.8.
Most people on the forum have Dunstan as a future solid contributor to our midfield. But yes that he is still young and is still developing.
Sure a few are at his upper end comparing to a future elite like Hayes. But I too doubt that he will ever get to that level.
Most state that we need to get at least two more elite mids if we are to get anywhere. Dunstan is part of our support cast.
However Dunstan is still young and developing.
Acres went missing more than Dunstan today.
Templeton I still have hope for.
Curren, Saunders and Minch I doubt will make it.
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Acres has played what
10 games
And was playing HF in a team where the midfield never touched the footy and there were 3 i50s in the first q
Did you notice that no player in the front 6 had more than 1 touch at q time
Dunstan was a part of a midfield that was trounced.
10 games
And was playing HF in a team where the midfield never touched the footy and there were 3 i50s in the first q
Did you notice that no player in the front 6 had more than 1 touch at q time
Dunstan was a part of a midfield that was trounced.
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You need to reserve your judgement for another year at least. How many players have underperformed in their 1st couple of years? We just don't know what issues he's playing with behind the scenes. All I know is that he will be a great player in a couple of years. Stats don't need to tell me that.BigMart wrote:Acres has played what
10 games
And was playing HF in a team where the midfield never touched the footy and there were 3 i50s in the first q
Did you notice that no player in the front 6 had more than 1 touch at q time
Dunstan was a part of a midfield that was trounced.
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You need to reserve your judgement for another year at least. How many players have underperformed in their 1st couple of years? We just don't know what issues he's playing with behind the scenes. All I know is that he will be a great player in a couple of years. Stats don't need to tell me that.BigMart wrote:Acres has played what
10 games
And was playing HF in a team where the midfield never touched the footy and there were 3 i50s in the first q
Did you notice that no player in the front 6 had more than 1 touch at q time
Dunstan was a part of a midfield that was trounced.
Posting 20 years of holey crap!