Hickey

[BigMart]

By his opponent

[Old Mate]

Hickey is rapidly improving. A lot of upside but it could still go either way. I don't think he will end up an average AFL standard ruckman. Either elite or a bust IMO. Putting my neck out there I'm leaning towards Hickey becoming one of the premier ruckman in the comp over the next 2-3 years. Def a lot more potential (athletically and ruck skills wise) than McEvoy who has always been a sure thing but never much scope for a lot of improvement. Ben has very good leadership skills though.

[skeptic]

Skeptic

Is that my fault?

The vendetta is boring I agree... But slamming me for having an opinion and declaring I am a fool for it?!

After one game?! And the sprouting I went early?

Clearly a baiting attack because of there silly little hatred thing they have going

After Sat
I thought Tom played quite well... He was actually beaten statistically, but I believe was more effective....Than who though??

And he is nowhere near at the level Ben is... I can prove that easily on straight out effectiveness numbers

Bit he is less experience

Jury is out still IMO and I still think he has clear weaknesses

I don't think it is your fault BM, whether I agree or not I appreciate that usually your first post in a thread is at least on topic

[White Winmar]

I pretty much dread seeing BM post now as you can guarantee plugger and WW will pop up and quote no matter what.

if only I could get TAB odds

In fairness to me, Skeptic, my criticisms of BM have been limited to a couple of threads in the recent past. I hardly, "pop up no matter what", where he's concerned. He's hardly innocent when it comes to automatically contradicting those he dislikes, with P66 being only the most obvious example. Go back and see if you can find any exchanges between BM and me that extend back further than the last couple of weeks. I'll do us all a favour and ignore him from now on. I also dread seeing posts from him, but for different reasons than you.

[skeptic]

fair enough WW,

for the record, I actually rather enjoy your opinions for the most part

[tony74]

He's pretty sore at the moment. Mumford will be a huge test

[gringo]

He's pretty sore at the moment. Mumford will be a huge test

He was noticeably hobbling a bit when they trained at Junction oval. He said it was just his running style but he looked like he was struggling with his legs a bit. Longer might be a late inclusion.

[plugger66]

He's pretty sore at the moment. Mumford will be a huge test

So he is certtain to play then?

[FQF]

I would not take any risks with our young ruck man - especially when we have more than competent back up.

[supersaints]

I think he has more up side than big Ben . He is already a better tap ruckman.

[BigMart]

On what measure?

Last 3 seasons McEvoy has averaged 25ho per game

Hickey 10 per game

How did you form this opinion?

[joffaboy]

On what measure?

Last 3 seasons McEvoy has averaged 25ho per game

Hickey 10 per game

How did you form this opinion?

Oh FFS Mcevoy is two seasons ahead of Hickey.

Admit you were wrong calling Hickey a gumby.

You were wrong and Hickey is a good ruckman. See if your ego will allow you to admit even that

[BigMart]

But hang on

Someone just stated Hickey was ALREADY a better tap Ruckman... Just questioning how anyone could come to that conclusion?

They
Didn't say potentially or likely to be? Or mention age?

On Hickey
Let's see how he goes over a period of time before admitting or declaring anything. Jake Spencer? Mmm... He's barely a good VFL player

[whiskers3614]

Big Mart makes me turn all religious.
Every time he goes on one of his circuitously repetitive arguments, I thank the almighty I was born male and straight.
Even the one in 20 something million possibility of meeting him and having to go bed to, or even worse wake up to some of his arguments would be like that horrible recurring nightmare of the wild beast chasing you and never quite being able to reach sanctuary from it.
Please Mr Mart, understand that repetition or rehashing of an argument does not enhance it's validity.

[ROLS-LEE]

Ben who??? Go Hickey keep it up

[joffaboy]

But hang on

Someone just stated Hickey was ALREADY a better tap Ruckman... Just questioning how anyone could come to that conclusion?

They
Didn't say potentially or likely to be? Or mention age?

On Hickey
Let's see how he goes over a period of time before admitting or declaring anything. Jake Spencer? Mmm... He's barely a good VFL player

He is a better tap ruckman. Easily. Mcevoy is not much good at tapping compared to Hickey. Even a simpleton can see that.

Lies damn lies and statistics. Hickey still maturing McEvoy wont get any better. Our mids are getting more of the ball with Hickey.

You called him a gumby. I know who the gumby is.

[ROLS-LEE]

Hickey 3 goals

[Con Gorozidis]

Best ruckmen in the comp!

[8856brother]

Could be the next Polly Farmer.

[joffaboy]

lol so Hickey is a gumby BigMart.

Compare McEvoys game after Ryder was injured against Hickeys game against Mumford.

lol @ your great knowledge. Stick to hindsight

[matrix]

hopefully the injury is just minor
struggled to run with comfort in the last

[magnifisaint]

On what measure?

Last 3 seasons McEvoy has averaged 25ho per game

Hickey 10 per game

How did you form this opinion?

You were wrong again.

[bigcarl]

Could be the next Polly Farmer.

Or the next Simon Madden. Left footer, kicks goals etc.

[ROLS-LEE]

On what measure?

Last 3 seasons McEvoy has averaged 25ho per game

Hickey 10 per game

How did you form this opinion?

Ben has 25ho per game at 90+% of game time.
Hickey 10ho per game with much less game time and several years less development

[matrix]

you can have a million tap outs but no point if only 2 go to advantage
give the mids first op and you have the first chance to get the score on the board