Billy Longer
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Re: Billy Longer
Still havent seen one person tell me how our forward line is set up with Longer in the side. remember Longer has kicked one behind in 9 games. I didnt want to lose ben but he gone and can live with that because I thought Hickey would ruck with stanley doing the small amount needed for Hickey to rest and Jolly being at sandy for when he is required. I just cant see how all these guys fit into the 2 sides so they all develop bar Jolly of course.
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Re: Billy Longer
This has been said for a while.The Fireman wrote:This + 1jaxons wrote:Fluttz wrote:See ya later Stanley if we get Longer. Stanley overrated and injury prone IMO.
I wouldn't be getting rid of Stanley.
He had a bad year in 2013 but has enough ability to turn into an A Grader.
Needs a good coach and a some confidence and he could explode.
But Jaxons you reckon hes not a ruck - which means you think he is a fwd?
I'm yet to see to see anyone in VFL/AFL history who hasnt started kicking goals at at least VFL level by age 23 who 'explodes' as an AFL fwd.
I just cant see it happening now im afraid.
No goals as a junior
No goals at SANFL level
No goals at VFL level
Yet somehow we all live in hope hes going to kick goals at AFL level.
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Re: Billy Longer
No offer from Saints.
Lions keen to keep him, Leppa flew to Bali to meet him.
Lions want mundo compo.
Let's not get carried away.
Lions keen to keep him, Leppa flew to Bali to meet him.
Lions want mundo compo.
Let's not get carried away.
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Re: Billy Longer
and I hope it continues to be said..the Kid has potential..needs some time in the gym but shows all the signs of being something special.Con Gorozidis wrote:jaxons wrote:Fluttz wrote:See ya later Stanley if we get Longer. Stanley overrated and injury prone IMO.
I wouldn't be getting rid of Stanley.
He had a bad year in 2013 but has enough ability to turn into an A Grader.
Needs a good coach and a some confidence and he could explode.
This has been said for a while.
But Jaxons you reckon hes not a ruck - which means you think he is a fwd?
I'm yet to see to see anyone in VFL/AFL history who hasnt started kicking goals at at least VFL level by age 23 who 'explodes' as an AFL fwd.
I just cant see it happening now im afraid.
No goals as a junior
No goals at SANFL level
No goals at VFL level
Yet somehow we all live in hope hes going to kick goals at AFL level.
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could have sworn I heard it said on Ten news that it was a done deal.Austinnn wrote:No offer from Saints.
Lions keen to keep him, Leppa flew to Bali to meet him.
Lions want mundo compo.
Let's not get carried away.
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Stanley does not have the football nous to be an a grader. Not having a go but his athletic potential far outweighs his football ability.
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We can't get both.
I'd rather Longer than Jolly, but please don't get both. We already have Hickey, along with Stanley and then Holmes & Pierce.
Not too sure, I want midfielder's and winger's... having 6 ruckman would be meh.
I don't mind Stanley, definitely a confidence type player, and putting him at FB did him no favors... expect a FF/Ruck role imo, he can take a good grab!
I'd rather Longer than Jolly, but please don't get both. We already have Hickey, along with Stanley and then Holmes & Pierce.
Not too sure, I want midfielder's and winger's... having 6 ruckman would be meh.
I don't mind Stanley, definitely a confidence type player, and putting him at FB did him no favors... expect a FF/Ruck role imo, he can take a good grab!
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Re: Billy Longer
I'm sure we are interested in longer but...
Brisbane weren't happy with hawthorns first pick for him, why would they suddenly be happy to take that same pick from us now?
He's contracted isn't he?
Brisbane weren't happy with hawthorns first pick for him, why would they suddenly be happy to take that same pick from us now?
He's contracted isn't he?
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Re: Billy Longer
The GTrain finished as a FF. Started as a wing?Con Gorozidis wrote:
I'm yet to see to see anyone in VFL/AFL history who hasnt started kicking goals at at least VFL level by age 23 who 'explodes' as an AFL fwd.
I just cant see it happening now im afraid.
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We have had a few St Kilda full backs who switched to FF. Cowboy etc.
Lynch at the Lions I think started as a FB.
Salmon at Essendon I think was only a ruckman before "exploding" as a FF.
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Verdun went from FB to FF swapping with Bob Murray, and was kicking them straight away. Kicked 9 against the Hawks a few weeks into his FF career, and he must have been 27, 28 by then.saintsRrising wrote:The GTrain finished as a FF. Started as a wing?Con Gorozidis wrote:
I'm yet to see to see anyone in VFL/AFL history who hasnt started kicking goals at at least VFL level by age 23 who 'explodes' as an AFL fwd.
I just cant see it happening now im afraid.
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We have had a few St Kilda full backs who switched to FF. Cowboy etc.
Lynch at the Lions I think started as a FB.
Salmon at Essendon I think was only a ruckman before "exploding" as a FF.
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Uncontracted, so theoretically could go in to the psd.
Hird... The unflushable one is now... just a turd...
Re: Billy Longer
Takes a few good grabs in this tape which suggests he has the potential to develop into a dangerous resting forward.
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Re: Billy Longer
Richter wrote:Uncontracted, so theoretically could go in to the psd.
Can you clarify Richter. Do you mean that Longer doesn't have a contract with the Brions?
If so, if they want to keep him why aren't they doing something about keeping him by offering him a new deal?????
Anyone know the reason for him being disgruntled at the Brions? Homesick? Better deal? Doesn't like the club?
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G-train was selected All Australian as a fwd pocket at age 21.saintsRrising wrote:The GTrain finished as a FF. Started as a wing?Con Gorozidis wrote:
I'm yet to see to see anyone in VFL/AFL history who hasnt started kicking goals at at least VFL level by age 23 who 'explodes' as an AFL fwd.
I just cant see it happening now im afraid.
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We have had a few St Kilda full backs who switched to FF. Cowboy etc.
Lynch at the Lions I think started as a FB.
Salmon at Essendon I think was only a ruckman before "exploding" as a FF.
Lynch went fwd at 23yo and kicked 68 in his first season as a FF
Salmon kicked 63 goals in 12 games as a 19yo
Any other examples?
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They would have offered him a contract... The main reason he would be looking elsewhere is for opportunity.st.byron wrote:Richter wrote:Uncontracted, so theoretically could go in to the psd.
Can you clarify Richter. Do you mean that Longer doesn't have a contract with the Brions?
If so, if they want to keep him why aren't they doing something about keeping him by offering him a new deal?????
Anyone know the reason for him being disgruntled at the Brions? Homesick? Better deal? Doesn't like the club?
Leuenberger is a very good young ruckmen in front of Longer at this stage.
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Purely keen to come home. Brissie very keen to keep him.st.byron wrote:Richter wrote:Uncontracted, so theoretically could go in to the psd.
Can you clarify Richter. Do you mean that Longer doesn't have a contract with the Brions?
If so, if they want to keep him why aren't they doing something about keeping him by offering him a new deal?????
Anyone know the reason for him being disgruntled at the Brions? Homesick? Better deal? Doesn't like the club?
He is out of contract but more likely to stay in Brissie than go into the PSD.
Re: Billy Longer
Sorry to disappoint some of you, but Stanley will not be going anywhere
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Re: Billy Longer
"New Lions coach Justin Leppitsch has made Longer's retention a priority and flew directly from a Bali holiday to Melbourne to meet him."
Is it weird that a new coach would be away on holiday during this trade period? Pretty important time to be involved, particularly when most of your good young players are wanting to bail.
Is it weird that a new coach would be away on holiday during this trade period? Pretty important time to be involved, particularly when most of your good young players are wanting to bail.
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Spoken with such certainty.andrewg wrote:Stanley will play forward
Maybe he will - but there is zero evidence to suggest he will be any good at it.
The only evidence thus far is 'blonde, tall and fast' which Saints fans love and get all jacked up about.
I hope I'm wrong. I really do!
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Emma Quayle has just tweeted that we weren't the only new club that Longer has met with & to stay tuned!
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Re: Billy Longer
Lynch was 25 half way through that seasonCon Gorozidis wrote:G-train was selected All Australian as a fwd pocket at age 21.saintsRrising wrote:The GTrain finished as a FF. Started as a wing?Con Gorozidis wrote:
I'm yet to see to see anyone in VFL/AFL history who hasnt started kicking goals at at least VFL level by age 23 who 'explodes' as an AFL fwd.
I just cant see it happening now im afraid.
.
We have had a few St Kilda full backs who switched to FF. Cowboy etc.
Lynch at the Lions I think started as a FB.
Salmon at Essendon I think was only a ruckman before "exploding" as a FF.
Lynch went fwd at 23yo and kicked 68 in his first season as a FF
Salmon kicked 63 goals in 12 games as a 19yo
Any other examples?
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Re: Billy Longer
Thanks for the link RW&B.RW&B wrote:Takes a few good grabs in this tape which suggests he has the potential to develop into a dangerous resting forward.
He palms the ball nicely to advantage ! Does look a bit like Dean Cox in the way he plays.
I don't reckon we have had that sort of precision tap work at our club for a while. Can mark the pill too.
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