This Guy (Rossy) can coach

[dragit]

Poor poor Harvey... got his contract paid out in full, how awful for him.

Was just about to hit his straps too.... bit like tommy walsh.

Actually Freo didn't want to pay him out.

Better than us who didn't even want to pay for Jarred Allens reco…

[skeptic]

Am I the only one who thinks to this point that Freo have under-achieved?

Mark Harvey repeatedly late last year that 2012 was going to be the year they charged... Looking at Freos list, I was expecting a top 4 spot.


Not saying he's a poor coach... don't think he's done that well though

[markp]

Poor poor Harvey... got his contract paid out in full, how awful for him.

Was just about to hit his straps too.... bit like tommy walsh.

Actually Freo didn't want to pay him out.

But they did... $500k or there abouts.

That poor man.

A piddly $500k golden handshake then they kicked him out on the street.

How can Lyon sleep at night?

[dragit]

Am I the only one who thinks to this point that Freo have under-achieved?

Mark Harvey repeatedly late last year that 2012 was going to be the year they charged... Looking at Freos list, I was expecting a top 4 spot.


Not saying he's a poor coach... don't think he's done that well though

Maybe… though they will probably end up only one game out of the top 4, while learning a new game plan, plus have missed Sandilands and Fyfe for most of the season… probably 2 of their top 3 players.
Certainly playing better footy at the business end of the season.
They would be expecting top 4 next year you would think.

[plugger66]

Am I the only one who thinks to this point that Freo have under-achieved?

Mark Harvey repeatedly late last year that 2012 was going to be the year they charged... Looking at Freos list, I was expecting a top 4 spot.


Not saying he's a poor coach... don't think he's done that well though

Where did you have them at the start of the year? I reckon they are pretty much where I thought RL would have them. Better times next year.

[maverick]

Am I the only one who thinks to this point that Freo have under-achieved?

Mark Harvey repeatedly late last year that 2012 was going to be the year they charged... Looking at Freos list, I was expecting a top 4 spot.


Not saying he's a poor coach... don't think he's done that well though

Where did you have them at the start of the year? I reckon they are pretty much where I thought RL would have them. Better times next year.

Why?
Pav 31
Sandi 30
McPharlin 31

3 very important structural players on the downward slide I would say...
Not so sure.

[plugger66]

Am I the only one who thinks to this point that Freo have under-achieved?

Mark Harvey repeatedly late last year that 2012 was going to be the year they charged... Looking at Freos list, I was expecting a top 4 spot.


Not saying he's a poor coach... don't think he's done that well though

Where did you have them at the start of the year? I reckon they are pretty much where I thought RL would have them. Better times next year.

Why?
Pav 31
Sandi 30
McPharlin 31

3 very important structural players on the downward slide I would say...
Not so sure.

Well Sandi hardly played so he wont be worse next year and Pav hardly misses a game so I reckon he will be fine next year. Mc Pharlin sould be ok. Fyfe hardly played but more importantly RL can get ordinary players to play well as a team. Look at the improvement in the last 6-8 games. They will know more of what RL expects next year and i also think they have a very good bunch of young kids.

[maverick]

Where did you have them at the start of the year? I reckon they are pretty much where I thought RL would have them. Better times next year.

Why?
Pav 31
Sandi 30
McPharlin 31

3 very important structural players on the downward slide I would say...
Not so sure.

Well Sandi hardly played so he wont be worse next year and Pav hardly misses a game so I reckon he will be fine next year. Mc Pharlin sould be ok. Fyfe hardly played but more importantly RL can get ordinary players to play well as a team. Look at the improvement in the last 6-8 games. They will know more of what RL expects next year and i also think they have a very good bunch of young kids.

Sandi could be worse and not play at all, Mcpharlin is starting to struggle IMO.
Ross needs his structure more than most, travelling every second week, time is running out for him I reckon.

[spert]

GT had a Plan A, but no Plan B.

Ross had a Plan B, but unfortunately came with no Plan A.

Watters might be able to strike a balance between the two, though at this stage he is tending towards Plan A.

I think Watters needs a Plan C, as A and B haven't delivered a premiership for GT and RL.

[saintly]

I have no doubt he would've stayed if we got our act together earlier no doubt..[/quote]

Not so sure.

He needed money, and I still firmly believe he was in negotiations with the Demons as well.[/quote]

I also think that. which was why the strength and condition person went to melbourne.

[clarky449]

If you think im less fortunate, how about i invite you over for some dinner, take a walk around my house and ill show you everything else i have in my life. Obviously your perception skills arent as good as you think. Getting a good laugh out of you. Photos on twitter, thank you for looking at me, its got nothing bad on there, please send me a PM about your perception of me, i want to know.

I wasn't talking about what your parents own but I think you already know what I think of you.

Anyway, shouldn't you be busy starting another Ross Lyon thread! Perhaps I can give you an idea for the subject header: "Ross Lyon: A wonderful and perfect human being".

I know you dont like me. Dont lose sleep over it. I just want to know what you think of me, you did say you seem photos on twitter. I have nothing bad on there.

[dragit]

If you think im less fortunate, how about i invite you over for some dinner, take a walk around my house and ill show you everything else i have in my life. Obviously your perception skills arent as good as you think. Getting a good laugh out of you. Photos on twitter, thank you for looking at me, its got nothing bad on there, please send me a PM about your perception of me, i want to know.

I wasn't talking about what your parents own but I think you already know what I think of you.

Anyway, shouldn't you be busy starting another Ross Lyon thread! Perhaps I can give you an idea for the subject header: "Ross Lyon: A wonderful and perfect human being".

I know you dont like me. Dont lose sleep over it. I just want to know what you think of me, you did say you seem photos on twitter. I have nothing bad on there.

Are you still spruiking your twitter photo collection?
https://twitter.com/#!/DanielClark93/me ... 2FgCHzFmXx
Why don't you explain what you mean by the term 'F-ing asian drivers' champ? I would call that 'bad' and really a good indicator of your intellect level.

[clarky449]

Are you still spruiking your twitter photo collection?
https://twitter.com/#!/DanielClark93/me ... 2FgCHzFmXx
Why don't you explain what you mean by the term 'F-ing asian drivers' champ? I would call that 'bad' and really a good indicator of your intellect level.

No, i was attacked by Pav, i am defending my integrity. Are you implying im racist? If so, my fathers side is asian, infact half of his extended family is asian, i have been to many family gatherings and get along with them great. Also if it was an Australian in the car, i would say the same. "Fken Aussie Drivers". Dont go playing the race card, i would be highly surprised if you have never been into Dandenong or somewhere with high immigrant population, and had a thought that has come in to your head.

[SaintPav]

Are you still spruiking your twitter photo collection?
https://twitter.com/#!/DanielClark93/me ... 2FgCHzFmXx
Why don't you explain what you mean by the term 'F-ing asian drivers' champ? I would call that 'bad' and really a good indicator of your intellect level.

No, i was attacked by Pav, i am defending my integrity. Are you implying im racist? If so, my fathers side is asian, infact half of his extended family is asian, i have been to many family gatherings and get along with them great. Also if it was an Australian in the car, i would say the same. "Fken Aussie Drivers". Dont go playing the race card, i would be highly surprised if you have never been into Dandenong or somewhere with high immigrant population, and had a thought that has come in to your head.

I did not attack you at all. Go back and read your threads. You are an imbecile and dumb arse and a waste of time.

[clarky449]

Are you still spruiking your twitter photo collection?
https://twitter.com/#!/DanielClark93/me ... 2FgCHzFmXx
Why don't you explain what you mean by the term 'F-ing asian drivers' champ? I would call that 'bad' and really a good indicator of your intellect level.

No, i was attacked by Pav, i am defending my integrity. Are you implying im racist? If so, my fathers side is asian, infact half of his extended family is asian, i have been to many family gatherings and get along with them great. Also if it was an Australian in the car, i would say the same. "Fken Aussie Drivers". Dont go playing the race card, i would be highly surprised if you have never been into Dandenong or somewhere with high immigrant population, and had a thought that has come in to your head.

I did not attack you at all. Go back and read your threads. You are an imbecile and dumb arse and a waste of time.

Maybe not in this thread, but you have in other threads. Imbecile and dumbarse, never been called that in real life. Hmmm, i wonder why? Waste of time? That cant be true, you have spent the majority of your post's in this thread replying to me. Strange....

[Johnny Member]

Lyon has done extremely well to get the Dockers playing the quality stuff they delivered away from home today.

I thought it would take him a couple of seasons to get them into the finals : unlike most posters on here, who thought it would never happen because Freo are a crap team and Lyon is a crap coach.

He got there in one season. Well done to him.

I'm not sure I buy the 'he got there' thing.

They finished 6th 18 months ago, then we're massacred with injury last year. It's not a stretch to say that most coaches, including Mark Harvey would have expected them to play finals again this year.

[Johnny Member]

Am I the only one who thinks to this point that Freo have under-achieved?

Mark Harvey repeatedly late last year that 2012 was going to be the year they charged... Looking at Freos list, I was expecting a top 4 spot.


Not saying he's a poor coach... don't think he's done that well though

No, I'm with you.

Although with a new coach it rarely clicks immediately, so 6th - 8th was absolutely expected.

[Johnny Member]

Were having a real bad 2012 due to injury too.

Very sad excuse, we've had one of the lowest injury lists all year. Our top 6 players have missed half a dozen games in total - all to Fisher…

I said 'were' in reference to Freo.

Not 'we're'.

[BigMart]

Anyone who tries to convince themselves that he is not a superb AFL coach is surely deluded.

His record is outstanding and he is only missing a premiership to top off his resume.....

Tactically astute
Strong leader
Good communicator

[joffaboy]

Anyone who tries to convince themselves that he is not a superb AFL coach is surely deluded.

His record is outstanding and he is only missing a premiership to top off his resume.....

Tactically astute
Strong leader
Good communicator

Many a person disagrees with this for some reason.

Not sure on the good communicator, maybe to the players but not to anyone else surely.

Also seems is his weakness is that he cant rebuild a team, took an established team in Saints and Freo both times.

If I had to chose b/w Ross and Scotty to take the Saints forward it would be Scotty. Other way round, probably Rossy.

[bigcarl]

GT had a Plan A, but no Plan B.

Ross had a Plan B, but unfortunately came with no Plan A.

Isnt plan A your first plan? RL certainly had a first plan. may have had the best in the business.

Ok, his Plan A was to defend and his Plan B was to defend.

So whatever you want to call it - Plan A or Plan B - he had only the one plan.

GT's Plan A was to attack and his Plan B was to attack.

So, whichever way you look at it, he had only the one plan.

See what I'm getting at. Both had only the one plan.

Or am I confusing you?

[SaintPav]

Poor poor Harvey... got his contract paid out in full, how awful for him.

Was just about to hit his straps too.... bit like tommy walsh.

Actually Freo didn't want to pay him out.

But they did... $500k or there abouts.

That poor man.

A piddly $500k golden handshake then they kicked him out on the street.

How can Lyon sleep at night?

LMFAO

Getting paid out your contract isn't a golden handshake...lol...

Getting stabbed in the back, being totally humiliated and then having your senior AFL coaching career ruined....yeah, it can't be that bad. What was I thinking..

[Teflon]

Freo were dogs, Lyon a snake but lets not pretend Mark Harvey wasnt for a moment a cabbage of a coach.

Same as Ratten for mine - I desperately wanted the Blues to keep Ratten. Malhtouse will improve them and I dont want that.

[SainterK]

Freo were dogs, Lyon a snake but lets not pretend Mark Harvey wasnt for a moment a cabbage of a coach.

Same as Ratten for mine - I desperately wanted the Blues to keep Ratten. Malhtouse will improve them and I dont want that.

Brissy have done OK since he came along, maybe just a coincidence...on the up they are.

[plugger66]

Freo were dogs, Lyon a snake but lets not pretend Mark Harvey wasnt for a moment a cabbage of a coach.

Same as Ratten for mine - I desperately wanted the Blues to keep Ratten. Malhtouse will improve them and I dont want that.

Brissy have done OK since he came along, maybe just a coincidence...on the up they are.

Does Harvey coach Brisbane?