Montagna rubbed out for 2

[Middo]

Looking at the footage, he's guilty as sin.

Off the ball, no accident.

But was it medium or low impact is the real issue?

IMO it was low impact...that would reduce it to one week with the priors and loadings.

Prob not worth trying to take it on on that basis....you either try and get it chucked out
or cop it on the chin.

Yeah mate ....

[Thinline]

I was right.

Suck s*** to those who weren't.

Glee.

[plugger66]

I know people will disagree but it proves the system works. Even though a few on here had a go at me I said if he wasnt guilty he would get off which he has. There have been 3 this year already. The MVP do the charges on the film available and then it is up to the clubs to prove innocence which we have on this occasion.

[dragit]

I don't think Joey has really contributed much in the past month of footy. Used to be our inside 50 king.

While I agree that he isn't playing his best football, he is still trying, still contributing and is 2nd for inside 50's… so nowhere near being dropped for mine. Roo isn't playing amazing either, but I wouldn't be dropping him either.

Glad Joey got off, looked like an accident to me, I reckon the Curnow one was a little unlucky last year, ran into a pack after sprinting 50 Metres and lightly tapped a guy that happened to be injured. Don't think he would have done it if he'd known how injured curnow was, was a minor split second error that proved pretty costly…

[Thinline]

I know people will disagree but it proves the system works. Even though a few on here had a go at me I said if he wasnt guilty he would get off which he has. There have been 3 this year already. The MVP do the charges on the film available and then it is up to the clubs to prove innocence which we have on this occasion.

And for that I'm thankful.

But on the basis of the film how on earth could it get this far?

Magner OBVIOUSLY slung him. There was no time for anything malicious on Montagna's part. Magner's action was causative. It had to be accidental/incidental contact. Could be nothing else.

And yet Taylor Walker makes no attempt to extract the ball with his hands, dives - no - JUMPS knees first into the head of Surjan and nothing at all happens.

The system has worked for us in this instance. But it clearly can't be said to be working.

[plugger66]

I know people will disagree but it proves the system works. Even though a few on here had a go at me I said if he wasnt guilty he would get off which he has. There have been 3 this year already. The MVP do the charges on the film available and then it is up to the clubs to prove innocence which we have on this occasion.

And for that I'm thankful.

But on the basis of the film how on earth could it get this far?

Magner OBVIOUSLY slung him. There was no time for anything malicious on Montagna's part. Magner's action was causative. It had to be accidental/incidental contact. Could be nothing else.

And yet Taylor Walker makes no attempt to extract the ball with his hands, dives - no - JUMPS knees first into the head of Surjan and nothing at all happens.

The system has worked for us in this instance. But it clearly can't be said to be working.

Walker had a clean record which saved him. If it was like Joeys he may have got 2 weeks. People have said speak to players before charging but that wouldnt work as it would take forever and players lie. This sytem get about 90% that dont challenge and that means we dont have full tribunal hearings that would go on and on under the old system.

[Spinner]

Looking at the footage, he's guilty as sin.

Off the ball, no accident.

But was it medium or low impact is the real issue?

IMO it was low impact...that would reduce it to one week with the priors and loadings.

Prob not worth trying to take it on on that basis....you either try and get it chucked out
or cop it on the chin.

Maybe you thought Montagna was 'guilty as sin' because he is Italian.

Big chance that actually....

[Junction Oval]

The fact that the case was "withdrawn" and not run and adjudicated on says a lot to me about the integrity of the initial MRP decision on this - when the crunch came, they were not prepared to have their decision tested ! It's not a good look for the MRP. No doubt they will claim that "other evidence" came to light.

[Middo]

I know people will disagree but it proves the system works. Even though a few on here had a go at me I said if he wasnt guilty he would get off which he has. There have been 3 this year already. The MVP do the charges on the film available and then it is up to the clubs to prove innocence which we have on this occasion.

Blow ya own trumpet ....
Sometimes it's best to say nothing ..!!!

[Life Long Saint]

I know people will disagree but it proves the system works. Even though a few on here had a go at me I said if he wasnt guilty he would get off which he has. There have been 3 this year already. The MVP do the charges on the film available and then it is up to the clubs to prove innocence which we have on this occasion.

It shows that it works with intervention only!

The fact is that the MRP should never have come up with the intial assessment in the first place!
Nor should they have come up with the charges against Whitecross, Thomas and Johnson!
If I'd made these basic errors with the same frequency in my line of work, I'd be unemployable!

[plugger66]

I know people will disagree but it proves the system works. Even though a few on here had a go at me I said if he wasnt guilty he would get off which he has. There have been 3 this year already. The MVP do the charges on the film available and then it is up to the clubs to prove innocence which we have on this occasion.

It shows that it works with intervention only!

The fact is that the MRP should never have come up with the intial assessment in the first place!
Nor should they have come up with the charges against Whitecross, Thomas and Johnson!
If I'd made these basic errors with the same frequency in my line of work, I'd be unemployable!

So what if we just had a tribunal and they came up with same results. We would have no where to go then apart from appeal and they are nearly impossible to overturn. You have to remember one system is done on video only so they have no other intervention. Considering that they get plenty right usually. This year they have struggled early though.

[IluvHarvey]

The MVP do the charges on the film available and then it is up to the clubs to prove innocence which we have on this occasion.

Why is Chris Judd doing this

[Life Long Saint]

I know people will disagree but it proves the system works. Even though a few on here had a go at me I said if he wasnt guilty he would get off which he has. There have been 3 this year already. The MVP do the charges on the film available and then it is up to the clubs to prove innocence which we have on this occasion.

It shows that it works with intervention only!

The fact is that the MRP should never have come up with the intial assessment in the first place!
Nor should they have come up with the charges against Whitecross, Thomas and Johnson!
If I'd made these basic errors with the same frequency in my line of work, I'd be unemployable!

So what if we just had a tribunal and they came up with same results. We would have no where to go then apart from appeal and they are nearly impossible to overturn. You have to remember one system is done on video only so they have no other intervention. Considering that they get plenty right usually. This year they have struggled early though.

I am not calling for the body to be removed...only the bodies within it to be replaced (or educated)!

[dragit]

Looking at the footage, he's guilty as sin.

Off the ball, no accident.

But was it medium or low impact is the real issue?

IMO it was low impact...that would reduce it to one week with the priors and loadings.

Prob not worth trying to take it on on that basis....you either try and get it chucked out
or cop it on the chin.

Maybe you thought Montagna was 'guilty as sin' because he is Italian.

Big chance that actually....

They come over here, take our jobs, kick our footballs around…

[maverick]

I know people will disagree but it proves the system works. Even though a few on here had a go at me I said if he wasnt guilty he would get off which he has. There have been 3 this year already. The MVP do the charges on the film available and then it is up to the clubs to prove innocence which we have on this occasion.

It shows that it works with intervention only!

The fact is that the MRP should never have come up with the intial assessment in the first place!
Nor should they have come up with the charges against Whitecross, Thomas and Johnson!
If I'd made these basic errors with the same frequency in my line of work, I'd be unemployable!

So what if we just had a tribunal and they came up with same results. We would have no where to go then apart from appeal and they are nearly impossible to overturn. You have to remember one system is done on video only so they have no other intervention. Considering that they get plenty right usually. This year they have struggled early though.

They certainly have (struggled early).
The overall system works you are quite right.

The question remains, how did Joey get cited for striking, when the impact was obscured and he was helpd to the ground by the player.
I thought one of the selling points of this system was that players who had played the game would be in a better position to judge....

[Moods]

Looking at the footage, he's guilty as sin.

Off the ball, no accident.

But was it medium or low impact is the real issue?

IMO it was low impact...that would reduce it to one week with the priors and loadings.

Prob not worth trying to take it on on that basis....you either try and get it chucked out
or cop it on the chin.

Maybe you thought Montagna was 'guilty as sin' because he is Italian.

Big chance that actually....

They come over here, take our jobs, kick our footballs around…

Heh heh heh. Very good.

[Eastern]

Farout, I thought it looked accidental…

Plenty have been asking for him to be dropped will be pleased no doubt.

Well if it is accidental they will challenge as he cant get anymore weeks. And if it accidental and we have smart people in charge he will get off. If he doesnt we either have dumb people helping our club or he is guilty.

Accidental? Magner had to go off under the blood rule. Looked like a jumper punch that went too far. Joey needs a decent foot up the bum for getting himself into that situation !!

Well, it looks like I got this one horribly wrong BUT I'm not the MRP/AFL. How could they give a player 3 weeks then without any hearing throw the charge out?

[Middo]

plugger66 wrote:
Some people wil never admit wrong and some still put a negative spin !



GOLD ....!

[satchmo]

How could they give a player 3 weeks then without any hearing throw the charge out?

Fat ed pumped it up as a croc of s*** this morning. My first thoughts were..joey gets off/ goes to collingwad next year.

[SaintPav]

I know people will disagree but it proves the system works. Even though a few on here had a go at me I said if he wasnt guilty he would get off which he has. There have been 3 this year already. The MVP do the charges on the film available and then it is up to the clubs to prove innocence which we have on this occasion.

Wasn't always the case becuase the appeals process was so inflxible...

Also, Roo should never have been suspended against Adelaide last year..that was a joke.

[whiskers3614]

How could they give a player 3 weeks then without any hearing throw the charge out?

Fat ed pumped it up as a croc of s*** this morning. My first thoughts were..joey gets off/ goes to collingwad next year.

On current form would struggle to get in Collingwood's midfield'
Unless he's foxing to lower his value