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Fair enough. I loved David Grant as a player. He is one of my all time favorites.saintsRrising wrote:I am not saying he is the "new" David Grant...just that he is bit like him in terms of being a "type of player".Shaggy wrote:
But Ferg is no David Grant either. David Grant really was one of a kind.
DG was a much better player.
Which is why I would not play Kosi at FF either.Shaggy wrote:Fair enough. I loved David Grant as a player. He is one of my all time favorites.saintsRrising wrote:I am not saying he is the "new" David Grant...just that he is bit like him in terms of being a "type of player".Shaggy wrote:
But Ferg is no David Grant either. David Grant really was one of a kind.
DG was a much better player.
But my point was that I would prefer Ferg lining up at FF compared to Kosi. Ferg is fast on a lead with a strong grab. Kosi is not a fast lead.
yeah mate, he has the talent but injuries have been his downside I just hope he remains injury free and really prove himself...plugger66 wrote:I was one who said he hasnt played forward for 5 years so he cannot in the seniors. He has this week and did great so hopefully in a higher comp, and he will obvouisly will this week, he will do a good job as he has tried so hard to come back from numerious injuries and he is a good guy but lets remember the seconds is called that for a reason.saintsRrising wrote:Yes you have indeed been a great supporter of his...as was St Mart (Big Mart?)St Fidelius wrote:I have mentioned about Fergs for about 3 years and have stated that he can play tall or small can play down back or up forward, but the responses I got in return was that ....
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It is good to see him stringing some good games together.
It is also good to see him getting some games up forward..which is where I believe his early football was.
Don't wait for the light at the end of the tunnel to appear, run down there and light the bloody thing yourself!
Hasn't he been playing in the defense for the past 5 years - you would think he would have a handle on the defensive side of his game and not be a free wheeling player.saintsRrising wrote:Has Ferg shown to exert great defensive pressure when he is forward?WinnersOnly wrote: A goal kicking HFF who has great defensive pressure, .
ie tackling and running down players.
Was this praise....or a bake?bobmurray wrote:
I went out to the huddle at quarter time and listened to Hutchison give his address,he singled out Fiora for his effort on Lappin in the first quarter .
Where was Allen playing?bobmurray wrote:
and he told Fergy and Allen to present more,it turned out that Fergy got that message better than Allen..
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It is different from up front. Good form asa defender does not mean that you will be good at exerting "forward pressure"WinnersOnly wrote:Hasn't he been playing in the defense for the past 5 years - you would think he would have a handle on the defensive side of his game and not be a free wheeling player.saintsRrising wrote:Has Ferg shown to exert great defensive pressure when he is forward?WinnersOnly wrote: A goal kicking HFF who has great defensive pressure, .
ie tackling and running down players.
Geary > Leigh Fisher IMO...SaintBot wrote:How'd Geary go? Given the quantity of small forwards at Collingwood he would be a very handy inclusion, as would Leigh Fisher.
Don't wait for the light at the end of the tunnel to appear, run down there and light the bloody thing yourself!
...St Fidelius wrote:Geary > Leigh Fisher IMO...SaintBot wrote:How'd Geary go? Given the quantity of small forwards at Collingwood he would be a very handy inclusion, as would Leigh Fisher.
Just my opinion .....
and in the past I could not believe he has got a game ahead of Fergs...
but then again that's my opinion and maybe it had something to do with Fergs being injured at the time
Fully agree St Fid, couldnt have said it any better myselfSt Fidelius wrote:yeah mate, he has the talent but injuries have been his downside I just hope he remains injury free and really prove himself...plugger66 wrote:I was one who said he hasnt played forward for 5 years so he cannot in the seniors. He has this week and did great so hopefully in a higher comp, and he will obvouisly will this week, he will do a good job as he has tried so hard to come back from numerious injuries and he is a good guy but lets remember the seconds is called that for a reason.saintsRrising wrote:Yes you have indeed been a great supporter of his...as was St Mart (Big Mart?)St Fidelius wrote:I have mentioned about Fergs for about 3 years and have stated that he can play tall or small can play down back or up forward, but the responses I got in return was that ....
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It is good to see him stringing some good games together.
It is also good to see him getting some games up forward..which is where I believe his early football was.
Forward or Back he CAN do the job IMO and will no doubt be an asset in either half ......
Just needs to be given a chance in more than a couple of games to get used to the momentum of the AFL and to drop him after a couple of tries would be a shame and a waste of giving him a REAL GO...
There are not too many players gifted enough to play both ends of the field and I believe Fergs is gifted enough to do that....
But gee, he needs the time to prove himself while he is injury free....
RL has shown faith in him and kept him on the list and gave him some tough assignments last year and I hope RL gives him a break shortly ...
He does deserve a chance to show what he's got and has been amongst the best for the Scorps a few times this year....
Much the same last year where he was only given a couple of goes....
Give Fergs a chance to show himself as a value to the side
The problem with that arguement is Fergerson has been better at Casey this year than Allen and I think bother were emergencies last week.Saints Premiers 2008 wrote:its dissapointing that some posters all of a sudden want ferguson in instead of allen on the basis of one match
i would like to see the selectors reward allen who has put in good games consistantly and not reward ferguson just because of one good match in a position he rarely plays
we should adopt he method of the australian cricket team whereby its damn difficult to break into it however once a player gets in they are given a massive run considering the promise shown
Ilz got limited time... all up 34 minutes he played (which i just don't see why he only get limited time) he got 9 possessions 4 marks and a goal... played very well when he was on and in the last quater i tihnk was one of the best... had about 4 shots on goal from about 45 out on the boundary and found it tough.... but his goal was goal of the day on the boundary from 45 out on the run after just coming off the bench....saintbrat wrote:http://www.scorpions.com.au/match-repor ... lants.html
It was an uncompromising Scorpions outfit that took to the field against the Bullants on Sunday, and in spectacular form came out 118 point winners. This was the best win for the Scorpions since round 2 last year, and after a hiccup against Tasmania two weeks ago, this was a strong indication that the Scorpions mean business in 2008.
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The Reserves started slowly and found themselves 5 goals down at quarter tim, but the continued pressure and efforts by Daniel Unsworth and Beau Vernon in particular had the Scorpions back in the game and within a couple of kicks half way through the third quarter. Unfortunately they couldn't maintain the intensity and eventually went down by 29 points. James Terry kicked 4 goals and Kahn Haretuku showed some positive signs kicking 3 goals and rucking for a large chunk of the day.
Casey 1.3. 9 7.6. 48 9. 9. 63 12.14. 86
Bullants 6.4. 40 8.9. 57 12.13. 85 17.13. 115
Casey Scorpions
Goal Kickers: J. Terry 4, K. Haretuku 3, P. McGrath, J. Youle, B. Vernon, J. Galvin, I. Fridman
Best Players: D. Unsworth, B. Vernon, B. McDonald, A. Parker, K. Haretuku, J. Terry
Northern Bullants
Goal Kickers: N. Meese 3, J. Mercuri 3, S. Jacobs 3, G. Connelly 2, L. O''Donnell 2, M. Quinton, A. Totino, J. Powell, M. Shields
Best Players: D. Davies, J. Spiteri, N. Meese, A. Totino, J. Powell, S. Gannon, S. Jacobs
Question: has anyone heard from Ilzy on how he went?
The fact Ferg clearly dominated a game gives him the edge I feel. Hed be jumping out of his skin waiting for his next game no matter were it is hed be that confident. Perfect time to bring a bloke in when hes flying on the back of a big game.Saints Premiers 2008 wrote:its dissapointing that some posters all of a sudden want ferguson in instead of allen on the basis of one match
i would like to see the selectors reward allen who has put in good games consistantly and not reward ferguson just because of one good match in a position he rarely plays
we should adopt he method of the australian cricket team whereby its damn difficult to break into it however once a player gets in they are given a massive run considering the promise shown
