Footy on Good Friday? !!
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There is no logical reason to not go to the footy on Good Friday.
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We will take the holiday as a traditional celebration, a long weekend marking the end of the summer.
The "no sport on Good Friday" is a Victorian thing.
A hangover from the Mannix days.
Time to get with the times.
The AFL are worried about other codes making inroads, so why surrender a prime market to them ?
So of course I would attend the footy on Good Friday.
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We will take the holiday as a traditional celebration, a long weekend marking the end of the summer.
The "no sport on Good Friday" is a Victorian thing.
A hangover from the Mannix days.
Time to get with the times.
The AFL are worried about other codes making inroads, so why surrender a prime market to them ?
So of course I would attend the footy on Good Friday.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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But to answer the original question.
I object strongly to the lopsided draw with cosy blockbusters and derby's programmed in.
For a draw to be fair it needs to be either totally random (fair to all) or give all teams equal games against all opponents over a period of seasons (again fair to all).
So I think ALL Blockbuster games should be outlawed.
So lets have footy on Good Friday.
But rotate it around so all clubs get a go.
I object strongly to the lopsided draw with cosy blockbusters and derby's programmed in.
For a draw to be fair it needs to be either totally random (fair to all) or give all teams equal games against all opponents over a period of seasons (again fair to all).
So I think ALL Blockbuster games should be outlawed.
So lets have footy on Good Friday.
But rotate it around so all clubs get a go.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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Only if they rotate Anzac Day games too. I can't see that hapening !!Enrico_Misso wrote:But to answer the original question.
I object strongly to the lopsided draw with cosy blockbusters and derby's programmed in.
For a draw to be fair it needs to be either totally random (fair to all) or give all teams equal games against all opponents over a period of seasons (again fair to all).
So I think ALL Blockbuster games should be outlawed.
So lets have footy on Good Friday.
But rotate it around so all clubs get a go.
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Yes...
How on Earth can we go on and on about multi culturalism and then not play footy on a day that is nothing but a day off for most people...
Anzac Day is far more important, we are mourning the deaths of thousands of people who gave their lives to protect our country whereas Good Friday is mourning the death who for all we know could have been the world's greatest conman...
How on Earth can we go on and on about multi culturalism and then not play footy on a day that is nothing but a day off for most people...
Anzac Day is far more important, we are mourning the deaths of thousands of people who gave their lives to protect our country whereas Good Friday is mourning the death who for all we know could have been the world's greatest conman...
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I'd definitely attend if possible. I think it would be a sell-out too, as even those not barracking for the Saints or our opposition would likely find it an excuse to get out of the house away from Easter TV programming (Mel Gibson will make a killing on royalties from the Passion of the Christ for eternity). While Christians may choose to stay away in droves, other footy supporters will likely take their place.
One thing nobody has mentioned though, is the players opinions. If a player is of strong religious belief and chooses not to play, would you still be asking for it. Imagine if Reiwoldt, Koschitzke and Gehrig were all practising Catholics. Just something to consider.
Apart from this little conundrum, I'm all for it. Public holidays should be renamed as Public Days Off to avoid this discussion, and let any do as they will on these days.
BTW, wouldn't you rather play Geelong on GF. I'm pretty sure the Son of God wouldn't be available.![Wink :wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
One thing nobody has mentioned though, is the players opinions. If a player is of strong religious belief and chooses not to play, would you still be asking for it. Imagine if Reiwoldt, Koschitzke and Gehrig were all practising Catholics. Just something to consider.
Apart from this little conundrum, I'm all for it. Public holidays should be renamed as Public Days Off to avoid this discussion, and let any do as they will on these days.
BTW, wouldn't you rather play Geelong on GF. I'm pretty sure the Son of God wouldn't be available.
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I think it's been overlooked a bit, but I do think it would be a reasonable poll....Eastern wrote:I think the ONLY way to solve this issue is to have a poll.
Would you attend the footy on Good Friday?
YES, or
NO
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Mods. Can someone please turn this into a poll !!
Has certainly sparked debate and a poll gives a definitive view.
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Priests work on Good Friday. Why shouldn't footballers?Winmarvellous wrote:
One thing nobody has mentioned though, is the players opinions. If a player is of strong religious belief and chooses not to play, would you still be asking for it. Imagine if Reiwoldt, Koschitzke and Gehrig were all practising Catholics. Just something to consider.
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5 prelims in 7 years. 40 wins from 49 games.
2009 and 2010 were 2 of the 5 best years ever by the St.Kilda FC.
Thanks for all your efforts Saints.
2009 and 2010 were 2 of the 5 best years ever by the St.Kilda FC.
Thanks for all your efforts Saints.
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5 prelims in 7 years. 40 wins from 49 games.
2009 and 2010 were 2 of the 5 best years ever by the St.Kilda FC.
Thanks for all your efforts Saints.
2009 and 2010 were 2 of the 5 best years ever by the St.Kilda FC.
Thanks for all your efforts Saints.
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Take exception to the suggestion that we have to thank religion for the december 25th and Easter Public holidays. The celebrating and holidaying occurred at these times of year long before christianity was invented.
Religion hijacked the solstice celebrations the turning point from shortening to lengthening days in the Northern hemisphere renamed Christmas and the celebrations of the onset of Spring and new life in nature renamed Easter
Good friday would be a good day to go to the footy, allowing more people to travel to it from further afield than might be the case on a working friday.
i would go for sure, frustratingly half of my fridays i have to work an evening shift and not happy with so many friday night st kilda games. When there is a friday i don't have to work (good friday)there is no footy. Stupid, illogical just like R
Religion hijacked the solstice celebrations the turning point from shortening to lengthening days in the Northern hemisphere renamed Christmas and the celebrations of the onset of Spring and new life in nature renamed Easter
Good friday would be a good day to go to the footy, allowing more people to travel to it from further afield than might be the case on a working friday.
i would go for sure, frustratingly half of my fridays i have to work an evening shift and not happy with so many friday night st kilda games. When there is a friday i don't have to work (good friday)there is no footy. Stupid, illogical just like R
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You could also enjoy catching a Train to your Good Friday football match!!!hilairehinshelwood wrote:Take exception to the suggestion that we have to thank religion for the december 25th and Easter Public holidays. The celebrating and holidaying occurred at these times of year long before christianity was invented.
Religion hijacked the solstice celebrations the turning point from shortening to lengthening days in the Northern hemisphere renamed Christmas and the celebrations of the onset of Spring and new life in nature renamed Easter
Good friday would be a good day to go to the footy, allowing more people to travel to it from further afield than might be the case on a working friday.
i would go for sure, frustratingly half of my fridays i have to work an evening shift and not happy with so many friday night st kilda games. When there is a friday i don't have to work (good friday)there is no footy. Stupid, illogical just like R
The abundance of public transport on this day would make an enjoyable trip to the footy for so many Melbournians....
Also, your views on Religion are not wanted here. Only your views on weather football should be played on Good Friday. So I suggest you fix up your post or I suggest go and post on an anti-religious forum.
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Show me some concrete evidence that Jesus was the son of god or came back from the dead or performed any miracle and I will change my vote.... I think if mankind are going to move on together in peaceful unity religion but be abolished, people need to understand just how absurd some of those religious beliefs sound to people who don't have the great 'faith'...Life Long Saint wrote:Oh Dear!Armoooo wrote:whereas Good Friday is mourning the death who for all we know could have been the world's greatest conman...
For every one good thing that has come out of religion there have been millions of worse things...
For every charity there has been a holocaust, for every mother Teresa there has been a war....
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I suggest you leave it how it is hilairehinshelwood, you can not talk about the issue of footy on Good Friday without bringing up religion, if some people don't support your anti-religious views they can pray for a tissue...Spinner wrote:You could also enjoy catching a Train to your Good Friday football match!!!hilairehinshelwood wrote:Take exception to the suggestion that we have to thank religion for the december 25th and Easter Public holidays. The celebrating and holidaying occurred at these times of year long before christianity was invented.
Religion hijacked the solstice celebrations the turning point from shortening to lengthening days in the Northern hemisphere renamed Christmas and the celebrations of the onset of Spring and new life in nature renamed Easter
Good friday would be a good day to go to the footy, allowing more people to travel to it from further afield than might be the case on a working friday.
i would go for sure, frustratingly half of my fridays i have to work an evening shift and not happy with so many friday night st kilda games. When there is a friday i don't have to work (good friday)there is no footy. Stupid, illogical just like R
The abundance of public transport on this day would make an enjoyable trip to the footy for so many Melbournians....
Also, your views on Religion are not wanted here. Only your views on weather football should be played on Good Friday. So I suggest you fix up your post or I suggest go and post on an anti-religious forum.
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Once again debating weather a certain religion exist rather than debating weather football should be played on a religious holiday.Armoooo wrote:Show me some concrete evidence that Jesus was the son of god or came back from the dead or performed any miracle and I will change my vote.... I think if mankind are going to move on together in peaceful unity religion but be abolished, people need to understand just how absurd some of those religious beliefs sound to people who don't have the great 'faith'...Life Long Saint wrote:Oh Dear!Armoooo wrote:whereas Good Friday is mourning the death who for all we know could have been the world's greatest conman...
For every one good thing that has come out of religion there have been millions of worse things...
For every charity there has been a holocaust, for every mother Teresa there has been a war....
Armoooo, I have had doubts about your posts for some time....Mostly because they don't seem to have any real substance, and actually seem to come from a person of age much younger than the 22 years I peg you for.
Your last two posts are pathetic. There is no other word. Go an debate weather religion exists with people that want to debate it. I actually find it quite offensive how agenda bent you are on proclaiming your beliefs and views onto others. Have a look at my posts....Have I ever used an argument that Jesus is the Son of God and hence no football should be played on Good Friday. The closest I have ever gone is that the day is one of spiritual reflection for a lot of others...hence the reason for a public holiday. Why is the reverse argument (which you seem to continually use) significant to this debate. And I find it ironic how the most common argument and whinge is "dont preach your beliefs to me', which in actual fact you will find numerous times where only the reserve has happened.
If you have personal issues with certain topic, leave them to yourself....Otherwise find a forum that wants to discuss them. Your posts and opinion are continually childish, and your recent performance has highlighted you have little grasp on community issues. But more importantly and something that is of greater disappointment, is your grasp on football, which is something I have wanted to communicate to you for some time.
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Once again debating weather a certain religion exist rather than debating weather football should be played on a religious holiday.
If you feel that way, I apologise, I just don't believe that you can discuss the issue of footy on GF without questioning the merit of GF itself...
Armoooo, I have had doubts about your posts for some time....Mostly because they don't seem to have any real substance, and actually seem to come from a person of age much younger than the 22 years I peg youfor.
Sorry you feel that way, but you are correct, I'm 17.
Your last two posts are pathetic. There is no other word. Go an debate weather religion exists with people that want to debate it.
It seems to be quite a reocurring issue, the way I see it most people have brought in religion...
I actually find it quite offensive how agenda bent you are on proclaiming your beliefs and views onto others.
I apologise for this, it is just hard for me to control myself about something I am so passionately against, it is clear you feel that I have gone over the top, I will cool it down a bit...
Have a look at my posts....Have I ever used an argument that Jesus is the Son of God and hence no football should be played on Good Friday.
I'm not quite sure how this fits in, I think you may have misunderstood my posting. I originally said that if football can be played on Anzac day, it should be able to be played on GF because we don't know who Jesus was and everything that is 'known' about him is hardly reliable, I was trying to argue that on ANZAC day we play footy while mourning thousands of people who we know died for this country, where as we know nothing about Jesus, somebody said 'oh dear' when I said that Jesus could have been a conman, so the post I believe you are referring to was directed at another poster, please correct me if I'm mistaken.
The closest I have ever gone is that the day is one of spiritual reflection for a lot of others...hence the reason for a public holiday.
In your opinion spiritual reflection must be important, in my opinion it is not, what I don't understand is why it matters, if you want to reflect spritually or if anyone else does, just don't go to the footy, that simple, those of us that don't give a toss about who died on the day will sell out the stadium.
Why is the reverse argument (which you seem to continually use) significant to this debate. And I find it ironic how the most common argument and whinge is "dont preach your beliefs to me', which in actual fact you will find numerous times where only the reserve has happened.
I don't believe that it is the same thing at all, we are prevented from going to the footy on Friday because of other people's beliefs (which are being forced upon us) yet our arguement is that if you want to reflect, you don't go, the rest of us will (so nothing is being forced upon the believers.
If you have personal issues with certain topic, leave them to yourself...
Otherwise find a forum that wants to discuss them.
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I still don't understand this arguement, how can you question whether footy should be played on GF without questioning the religious aspects to it?
Your posts and opinion are continually childish, and your recent performance has highlighted you have little grasp on community issues.
Well then enlighten me, what is the issue?, one group of people are trying to make another group of people miss out on something they love for something they don't believe in.
But more importantly and something that is of greater disappointment, is your grasp on football, which is something I have wanted to communicate to you for some time.
I don't know what you are refering to, however I believe that it may lead off topic, if you would like to elaborate feel free to PM me.
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We shouldn't favour one religion over others. If it's not ok to play footy on Good Friday, then it's not ok to play footy on other days that are sacred to other religions. We don't want that, do we?
If you think this is far-fetched consider the outcomes of the positive discrimination that the Howard government displayed to private schools with "mainstream" xian or jewish associations. What happened is that religious schools of other faiths threatened to go to the High Court and now they have extra funding too. Howard decried terrorism of the sort that concerns post-9/11 Australia but actually ended up funding fundementalist muslim schools because he set a precedent of faith based funding with schools he liked. In Australia, equity law does not let you do that. If you bring lollies into class, there has to be one for everyone.
So, keep religion separate from sport. Play on all the religious occasions. Keep the cranks from preventing us from watching our game by allowing no exceptions to the rule: We play when we want to not when some religious group tells us we can.
To quote Lenny Bruce: we are lucky that Christ did not occur in 20th century USA. Otherwise all the Christian kids would be running around with little electric chairs hung around their necks...
If you think this is far-fetched consider the outcomes of the positive discrimination that the Howard government displayed to private schools with "mainstream" xian or jewish associations. What happened is that religious schools of other faiths threatened to go to the High Court and now they have extra funding too. Howard decried terrorism of the sort that concerns post-9/11 Australia but actually ended up funding fundementalist muslim schools because he set a precedent of faith based funding with schools he liked. In Australia, equity law does not let you do that. If you bring lollies into class, there has to be one for everyone.
So, keep religion separate from sport. Play on all the religious occasions. Keep the cranks from preventing us from watching our game by allowing no exceptions to the rule: We play when we want to not when some religious group tells us we can.
To quote Lenny Bruce: we are lucky that Christ did not occur in 20th century USA. Otherwise all the Christian kids would be running around with little electric chairs hung around their necks...
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Just on the issue of whether Australia is a Christian nation. It most definitely is not. While the majority of people might be nominally Christian, under the law, the nation enjoys separation of Church and State.
Article 5, subsection 116 of the Australian Constitution clearly reads:
116. The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.
Article 5, subsection 116 of the Australian Constitution clearly reads:
116. The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.
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Very interesting, I have always been unsure to Australia's position on religion, up until recently I was almost positive that there was something in our constitution or something like that, that would have made Australia officially christian...SteveStevens66 wrote:Just on the issue of whether Australia is a Christian nation. It most definitely is not. While the majority of people might be nominally Christian, under the law, the nation enjoys separation of Church and State.
Article 5, subsection 116 of the Australian Constitution clearly reads:
116. The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.
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