Still no plan B
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Still no plan B
We still dont seem to have a plan b for the finals...and if this is so we will be out in straight sets........the guys look tired and worn out playing the current style. And why with both small forwards out why not try Alistar Smith who has some pace.
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No - it was his 3rd or 4th game from memory? Confident that he made his debut against Brisbane @ Etihad, and played reasonably well!#1GILL wrote:I don't think this is a good idea, infact it is idiotic.
But didn't Jimmy Gwilt debut in a final against Adelaide? Possibly qualifying also..
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When did I say it was a good idea? Not to mention the circumstances were much different back then. I was just checking if infact Jimmy did debut in a final, and I recieved my answer.desperados wrote:So is it idiotic or a good idea as per Jimmy Gwilt? Talk about two bob each way!
I think it would be idiotic to debut Smith in a final against possibly the best team to ever play, and I will stand by that.
Re: Still no plan B
no team has a plan b. that's because they strive to perfect one style and don't go changing everything for a cut-throat final just because of a bit of indifferent form in games that don't mean anything.seano1 wrote:We still dont seem to have a plan b for the finals...and if this is so we will be out in straight sets........the guys look tired and worn out playing the current style.
don't get me wrong, friday night will be hard. but a half-baked "plan b" involving hope that a zero-gamer will be a match-winner is not the answer.
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IMO both Geelong and the Saints have spent the last two weeks on tweeking their gameplans.. The pussies have started to dump their over-use of handball, as it brings them undone under extreeme pressure.
We practised Saturday on handball at all times (I think to set up for more run through the corridor. We also deliberantly went without any small forwards.
Ross is no dill, he knows what he is doing...Just wait and see.
We practised Saturday on handball at all times (I think to set up for more run through the corridor. We also deliberantly went without any small forwards.
Ross is no dill, he knows what he is doing...Just wait and see.
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we hope Ross is no dill!supersaints wrote:IMO both Geelong and the Saints have spent the last two weeks on tweeking their gameplans.. The pussies have started to dump their over-use of handball, as it brings them undone under extreeme pressure.
We practised Saturday on handball at all times (I think to set up for more run through the corridor. We also deliberantly went without any small forwards.
Ross is no dill, he knows what he is doing...Just wait and see.
yes he deliberately went without small fowards, but does anyone know why?
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Six day turnaround post AAMI for a Qualifier... AS IF we are going to go out and try to pants Adelaide just for the sake of giving a few out of touch supporters a stiffy.
It was a training drill. No more.
Plan's B, C and D don't come into it.
I retain faith that our side lifts for 'must perform' games. Our team's record in such games in the last two years is nothing short of magnificent.
It was a training drill. No more.
Plan's B, C and D don't come into it.
I retain faith that our side lifts for 'must perform' games. Our team's record in such games in the last two years is nothing short of magnificent.
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well thats just like hawthorn not having a proper full back for years.borderbarry wrote:I can see what Seano1 means. Why did.nt we play A.Smith against Adelaide when both small forwards were out? A good point. But it beggars belief that we still have no medium size forward.
the doggies going small for years.(except this year they picked up Hall)
magpies not having a proper ruckman, butfinally this year went and boght one.
the saints not haveing any fast players to break lines,
we went and bought 2, but only peake is still around. if lovett had not F..d up we ould have 2.
etc etc.
most teams are missing some type of player.
Appears to me that there were two obvious elements of the game in Adelaide.saintly wrote:we hope Ross is no dill!supersaints wrote:IMO both Geelong and the Saints have spent the last two weeks on tweeking their gameplans.. The pussies have started to dump their over-use of handball, as it brings them undone under extreeme pressure.
We practised Saturday on handball at all times (I think to set up for more run through the corridor. We also deliberantly went without any small forwards.
Ross is no dill, he knows what he is doing...Just wait and see.
yes he deliberately went without small fowards, but does anyone know why?
1. No small forwards.
2. Handball at all costs.
Fast ball movement favours tall forwards. It encourages long leads, and creativity.
I feel that Ross took out our crumbing options (not to mention they had a few niggles and didn't need to travel) so that we would emphasise the importance of taking full advantage of our talls. Riewoldt and Kosi.
Using this new mindset, with the advantage of the small forwards cleaning up the mess at the same time, will only enhance the tweaked game style.
No team (except Carlton) wants to rely on their small forwards to kick a winning score. So Ross forced the boys to rely solely on Roo and Kosi to win us the game, and the addition of the smalls will only help.
As has been mentioned, the game was 90% a training drill, trying new things that they've been working on on the track.
Result didn't matter, and had Roo converted, the game style would have held up against a very strong defensive team.
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Well errr yes...but that IMO had nothing to do with "Plan B Gameplans" or trying something different and everything to do with Milne and Schneider both having minor injuries with only a 6 day break to the Cat's game.supersaints wrote: We also deliberantly went without any small forwards.
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IMO I think this thread is over analyzing what was a practice match where the main goal seemed to be to not get injured.
Come Friday night unless I am very much mistaken you will see a Saints team that is frenetic in it's pressure on the ball carrier.
Body contact and pressure will be ramped up.
Watch the tackle count zoom...and expect Schneider to be very important in our forward structure with goal assists and setting up play..plus hopefully snagging some himself.
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No plan B?
If you watched our last 2 games of football surely you saw a massive contrast in playing styles?
Tigers game we kicked more and longer, used the corridor at all costs, took risks and pushed forward with run and spread.
Crows game we posessed the ball with handball, flooded back hard and went wide and backwards looking for short options.
Looked like we tinkered with both game plans in the last 2 weeks to me? Good opportunity to do it as well as both clubs played with heart and really wanted to beat us, so whilst the quality of opposition may not have been high the intensity was.
If you watched our last 2 games of football surely you saw a massive contrast in playing styles?
Tigers game we kicked more and longer, used the corridor at all costs, took risks and pushed forward with run and spread.
Crows game we posessed the ball with handball, flooded back hard and went wide and backwards looking for short options.
Looked like we tinkered with both game plans in the last 2 weeks to me? Good opportunity to do it as well as both clubs played with heart and really wanted to beat us, so whilst the quality of opposition may not have been high the intensity was.
Maybe this year?
Actually I am more confident of us having a backup plan given we have kicked 100+ the three weeks previous to Adelaide...
If, and that's a pretty big if, plan A doesn't work and we cannot suck the life out of, and restrict our opponent scoring....I like that we can throw all caution to the wind and try to outscore our opponent in a good old fashioned shoot out![Wink :wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
If, and that's a pretty big if, plan A doesn't work and we cannot suck the life out of, and restrict our opponent scoring....I like that we can throw all caution to the wind and try to outscore our opponent in a good old fashioned shoot out
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