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rodgerfox wrote:
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SainterK wrote:I personally didn't like Baker hitting Johnsons hand, and I didn't like Fisher attempting to bump Bartel while going off in the hands of the trainers.
I agree I hated seeing what Brisbane did to Roo and knowing his hand was injured Bakes probably pushed the buttons a bit too far.

Missed the other thing though, I just think if someone is injured though they should come off the field...
I personally believe that what Brisbane did to Roo, was the difference between them being a 3-time Premiership team, and them being an 'also ran'.

What Baker and Fisher did on Friday night, and the attitude displayed in doing it, could be the difference between us being a Premiership team or an 'also ran'.
Fisher is a bit different as Bartel was coming off and in the hands of the trainers. I aven't seen it but I rekon any contact in that situation deserves a week. IMO


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saint vince wrote:
rodgerfox wrote:
St Michele wrote:
SainterK wrote:I personally didn't like Baker hitting Johnsons hand, and I didn't like Fisher attempting to bump Bartel while going off in the hands of the trainers.
I agree I hated seeing what Brisbane did to Roo and knowing his hand was injured Bakes probably pushed the buttons a bit too far.

Missed the other thing though, I just think if someone is injured though they should come off the field...
I personally believe that what Brisbane did to Roo, was the difference between them being a 3-time Premiership team, and them being an 'also ran'.

What Baker and Fisher did on Friday night, and the attitude displayed in doing it, could be the difference between us being a Premiership team or an 'also ran'.
Fisher is a bit different as Bartel was coming off and in the hands of the trainers. I aven't seen it but I rekon any contact in that situation deserves a week. IMO
Doesn't matter if he gets 3 weeks for it - it's the attitude that our guys are showing that's important.

We are showing that we will do whatever it takes to win.

That's the key ingredient to success in this caper.


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rodgerfox wrote:
St Michele wrote:
SainterK wrote:I personally didn't like Baker hitting Johnsons hand, and I didn't like Fisher attempting to bump Bartel while going off in the hands of the trainers.
I agree I hated seeing what Brisbane did to Roo and knowing his hand was injured Bakes probably pushed the buttons a bit too far.

Missed the other thing though, I just think if someone is injured though they should come off the field...
I personally believe that what Brisbane did to Roo, was the difference between them being a 3-time Premiership team, and them being an 'also ran'.

What Baker and Fisher did on Friday night, and the attitude displayed in doing it, could be the difference between us being a Premiership team or an 'also ran'.
Agreed.

**** em all.


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saint vince wrote: I aven't seen it but I rekon any contact in that situation deserves a week. IMO
Do you post on BigFooty? You should.

I didn't see it but he should get a week is pretty standard fare over there.


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There is an AFL ruling which stipulates players who make ''unreasonable and unnecessary'' contact with injured rivals can be charged with misconduct.

If cited, Johnson already has 93.75 carry-over points and could face a suspension of three to four weeks.

Baker would have a 50 per cent loading on any penalty because of a seven-match suspension for a behind-the-play incident on former Fremantle player Jeff Farmer in 2007.

Mooney is expected to be cited for striking Jason Blake. He faces a 20 per cent loading as he has been suspended twice in the past three years.

thats the link in brattys post on 'vote for jimmy'


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matrix wrote:There is an AFL ruling which stipulates players who make ''unreasonable and unnecessary'' contact with injured rivals can be charged with misconduct.

If cited, Johnson already has 93.75 carry-over points and could face a suspension of three to four weeks.

Baker would have a 50 per cent loading on any penalty because of a seven-match suspension for a behind-the-play incident on former Fremantle player Jeff Farmer in 2007.

Mooney is expected to be cited for striking Jason Blake. He faces a 20 per cent loading as he has been suspended twice in the past three years.

thats the link in brattys post on 'vote for jimmy'
So Fisher fine/points downgrade early plea, SJ a month, Baker 1 for rough conduct, Mooney 2 for a strike?


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matrix wrote:There is an AFL ruling which stipulates players who make ''unreasonable and unnecessary'' contact with injured rivals can be charged with misconduct.

If cited, Johnson already has 93.75 carry-over points and could face a suspension of three to four weeks.

Baker would have a 50 per cent loading on any penalty because of a seven-match suspension for a behind-the-play incident on former Fremantle player Jeff Farmer in 2007.

Mooney is expected to be cited for striking Jason Blake. He faces a 20 per cent loading as he has been suspended twice in the past three years.

thats the link in brattys post on 'vote for jimmy'
Surely if Johnson stays on the ground, and continues to contest the footy - then he can't be considered 'off limits'.

Surely.


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Post: # 948488Post Thinline »

Agree RF, but I think the first bit refers to Fisher's bump on Bartel as he was being helped from the field.


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Post: # 948489Post matrix »

dunno Thinline

gawd knows whatll happen
consistent rulings arent exactly consistent at the mrp lol


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Agreed.

**** em all.
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I agree with that message.


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Thinline wrote:Agree RF, but I think the first bit refers to Fisher's bump on Bartel as he was being helped from the field.
Yeah, although it was so minimal that I'd be surprised and really disappointed if anything was to come from Fisher's.


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Post: # 948494Post matrix »

yeah it was about fisher....not sj's sore handsy wandsy


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Kate wrote:Didn't Headland get off after whacking Selwood because Selwood provoked him by saying he'd shagged Headland's 8 yo daughter?
Yeah I think he might have


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rodgerfox wrote:
Thinline wrote:Agree RF, but I think the first bit refers to Fisher's bump on Bartel as he was being helped from the field.
Yeah, although it was so minimal that I'd be surprised and really disappointed if anything was to come from Fisher's.
Fisher's about as fair as they come, so wouldn't be surprised if they let it slide to be honest.


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Kate wrote:Didn't Headland get off after whacking Selwood because Selwood provoked him by saying he'd shagged Headland's 8 yo daughter?
Yeah I think he might have


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kosifantutti23 wrote:
saint vince wrote: I aven't seen it but I rekon any contact in that situation deserves a week. IMO
Do you post on BigFooty? You should.

I didn't see it but he should get a week is pretty standard fare over there.
I said I haven't see that incident but IMO if you make contact with someone who is coming off the ground with trainers and is clearly injured you should be cited and recieve at least one week.

I am sorry for having an opinion on something in a general sense and not exactly see what happened.

I didn't see Barry Halls's hit on Staker for about 4 days but what I had heard i knew he should have been suspended.

I didn't see any of the gangland killings but I rekon they should go to jail.

Believe it or not not everything is in what you see.


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Kate wrote:Didn't Headland get off after whacking Selwood because Selwood provoked him by saying he'd shagged Headland's 8 yo daughter?
Yeah I think he might have


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saint vince wrote:
I said I haven't see that incident but IMO if you make contact with someone who is coming off the ground with trainers and is clearly injured you should be cited and recieve at least one week.

I am sorry for having an opinion on something in a general sense and not exactly see what happened.

I didn't see Barry Halls's hit on Staker for about 4 days but what I had heard i knew he should have been suspended.

I didn't see any of the gangland killings but I rekon they should go to jail.

Believe it or not not everything is in what you see.
Guilty until proven innocent right?


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I didn't see Barry Halls's hit on Staker for about 4 days but what I had heard i knew he should have been suspended
So you determined his guilt on hearsay?


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rodgerfox wrote:
saint vince wrote:
I said I haven't see that incident but IMO if you make contact with someone who is coming off the ground with trainers and is clearly injured you should be cited and recieve at least one week.

I am sorry for having an opinion on something in a general sense and not exactly see what happened.

I didn't see Barry Halls's hit on Staker for about 4 days but what I had heard i knew he should have been suspended.

I didn't see any of the gangland killings but I rekon they should go to jail.

Believe it or not not everything is in what you see.
Guilty until proven innocent right?
No but if you punchsomeone you should be suspended.
If you kick some one same thing
IMO if you make contact with someone as they are coming off injured with trainers you should be suspended.


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saint vince wrote:
No but if you punchsomeone you should be suspended.
If you kick some one same thing
IMO if you make contact with someone as they are coming off injured with trainers you should be suspended.
What was the level of Fisher's contact?


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Post: # 948507Post bigred »

Very minor.

Very minor push.


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bigred wrote:Very minor.

Very minor push.
I know. I actually saw it.


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Fisher is a bit different as Bartel was coming off and in the hands of the trainers. I aven't seen it but I rekon any contact in that situation deserves a week. IMO[/quote]

If you go back to my original statement and not distort it I said any contact in that situation deserves a week.

I didn't say Fisher deserves a week I said any contact deserves a week. If Fisher made ANY contact then he deserves to go.


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Maybe I missed something at the beginning of the game, but I thought it was Johnson who was being the aggressor even before the bounce. It took a couple of slaps and a fairly descent whack from Johnson before Bakes really fired up.

Knowing the MRP they don't require any video footage to put Bakes away for 10 weeks (sound familiar?). Let's hope it is only 1 week, maximum!


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