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I'd be really suprised if Kosi left.
He appears to be pretty into his family.
From what I understand, I think they still live rural.
Going to the GC would take him a fair way from home.
That said, I get a feeling his values are pretty old school, so loyalty to those who look after him would be something important to him.
He appears to be pretty into his family.
From what I understand, I think they still live rural.
Going to the GC would take him a fair way from home.
That said, I get a feeling his values are pretty old school, so loyalty to those who look after him would be something important to him.
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They can be competitive from the get go with 20 year olds.Batnoe wrote:Why would they care if he will be 32 to 33 when their time is due?
they will want to be competitive from the start. The state needs them to do well from the outset so getting players that will play for them is needed
Being competitive with 32 year olds at the expense of a 20 year olds who'll do the same job is silly.
We're talking about a place that already has the best six or seven kids in the country (Swallow, Matera, Dixon, Shreeve, Toy, Smith, Magin, Daye etc) and 13 of the top 20 picks in the draft at season end.
Believe what you will, but for GC old blokes on the wane simply ain't an option.
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I hope you're right...plugger66 wrote:We will lose someone to the GC IMO but I would think no one on this site has a clue who they may be. Kosi by the law of averages in much more chance to stay than go. I wouldnt worry what people say about who is staying going because the truth is I doubt anyone on here would have a clue.
This is a shocking thing to say and I will be bagged for it but the only reason I hope Kosi doesnt go is that we will get bugger all for him.SainterK wrote:I hope you're right...plugger66 wrote:We will lose someone to the GC IMO but I would think no one on this site has a clue who they may be. Kosi by the law of averages in much more chance to stay than go. I wouldnt worry what people say about who is staying going because the truth is I doubt anyone on here would have a clue.
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Exactly, we should have traded him at the end of '08, when he had some value. The Dogs wanted him and would have jumped at the opportunity.plugger66 wrote:This is a shocking thing to say and I will be bagged for it but the only reason I hope Kosi doesnt go is that we will get bugger all for him.SainterK wrote:I hope you're right...plugger66 wrote:We will lose someone to the GC IMO but I would think no one on this site has a clue who they may be. Kosi by the law of averages in much more chance to stay than go. I wouldnt worry what people say about who is staying going because the truth is I doubt anyone on here would have a clue.
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Love him or hate him, fail to see how the Saints would of benefited by providing the Doggies with a tall forward last year when they were already only just a kick or two away from beating us in the qualifying finals last year?Bernard Shakey wrote:Exactly, we should have traded him at the end of '08, when he had some value. The Dogs wanted him and would have jumped at the opportunity.plugger66 wrote:This is a shocking thing to say and I will be bagged for it but the only reason I hope Kosi doesnt go is that we will get bugger all for him.SainterK wrote:I hope you're right...plugger66 wrote:We will lose someone to the GC IMO but I would think no one on this site has a clue who they may be. Kosi by the law of averages in much more chance to stay than go. I wouldnt worry what people say about who is staying going because the truth is I doubt anyone on here would have a clue.
Unless of course you had another trade in mind to get some other tall to the Saints to replace him?
Dont think he will go to the Goldcoast, and dont want him to either. Hope by years end the majority feel the same.
Thats my take.
Loyalty to the club and loyalty to players still has a place in the game, it is diminished by the professionalism of todays game and that is fine, but I hope Kosi gets to finish what he started and i hope he and Nick and a couple of others are all one club players like Loewe Burke and Harvey before them.
Thats my take.
Loyalty to the club and loyalty to players still has a place in the game, it is diminished by the professionalism of todays game and that is fine, but I hope Kosi gets to finish what he started and i hope he and Nick and a couple of others are all one club players like Loewe Burke and Harvey before them.
Maybe this year?
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I wasn't looking for a like for like. All I wanted was to get rid of some deadwood two years ago and get decent draft picks or players at the time.SainterK wrote:Love him or hate him, fail to see how the Saints would of benefited by providing the Doggies with a tall forward last year when they were already only just a kick or two away from beating us in the qualifying finals last year?Bernard Shakey wrote:Exactly, we should have traded him at the end of '08, when he had some value. The Dogs wanted him and would have jumped at the opportunity.plugger66 wrote:This is a shocking thing to say and I will be bagged for it but the only reason I hope Kosi doesnt go is that we will get bugger all for him.SainterK wrote:I hope you're right...plugger66 wrote:We will lose someone to the GC IMO but I would think no one on this site has a clue who they may be. Kosi by the law of averages in much more chance to stay than go. I wouldnt worry what people say about who is staying going because the truth is I doubt anyone on here would have a clue.
Unless of course you had another trade in mind to get some other tall to the Saints to replace him?
Didn't happen and as plugger66 said he's worthless now.
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Obsessed much with your hate?Bernard Shakey wrote:I wasn't looking for a like for like. All I wanted was to get rid of some deadwood two years ago and get decent draft picks or players at the time.SainterK wrote:Love him or hate him, fail to see how the Saints would of benefited by providing the Doggies with a tall forward last year when they were already only just a kick or two away from beating us in the qualifying finals last year?Bernard Shakey wrote:Exactly, we should have traded him at the end of '08, when he had some value. The Dogs wanted him and would have jumped at the opportunity.plugger66 wrote:This is a shocking thing to say and I will be bagged for it but the only reason I hope Kosi doesnt go is that we will get bugger all for him.SainterK wrote:I hope you're right...plugger66 wrote:We will lose someone to the GC IMO but I would think no one on this site has a clue who they may be. Kosi by the law of averages in much more chance to stay than go. I wouldnt worry what people say about who is staying going because the truth is I doubt anyone on here would have a clue.
Unless of course you had another trade in mind to get some other tall to the Saints to replace him?
Didn't happen and as plugger66 said he's worthless now.
Fair dinkum you are so pathetically transparent.
Only deadwood are people who go out of their way to constantly slag a STKFC player relentlessy.
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If he has signed, what dp's do we get as compensation?
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I just think he's being played out of position and expecting him to lead the attack in riewoldt's absence was a mistake.
when roo comes back and is lacking a little match fitness perhaps play him deep for a couple of weeks and move kosi out to chf where he can roam around a bit more.
all the focus will be on rooey anyway, so kosi will again draw the third best defender and cannot fail to improve on his meagre return this season.
he's a good shot at goal from 50-55 metres out.
when roo comes back and is lacking a little match fitness perhaps play him deep for a couple of weeks and move kosi out to chf where he can roam around a bit more.
all the focus will be on rooey anyway, so kosi will again draw the third best defender and cannot fail to improve on his meagre return this season.
he's a good shot at goal from 50-55 metres out.
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Unfortunately "roam around" is all he does.bigcarl wrote:I just think he's being played out of position and expecting him to lead the attack in riewoldt's absence was a mistake.
when roo comes back and is lacking a little match fitness perhaps play him deep for a couple of weeks and move kosi out to chf where he can roam around a bit more.
all the focus will be on rooey anyway, so kosi will again draw the third best defender and cannot fail to improve on his meagre return this season.
he's a good shot at goal from 50-55 metres out.
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I don't think his value at the end of 08 would have been that much better than it is now. I couldn;t see us getting any more than a second round pick and a player then and I reckon that's what we would get now.Bernard Shakey wrote:I wasn't looking for a like for like. All I wanted was to get rid of some deadwood two years ago and get decent draft picks or players at the time.SainterK wrote:Love him or hate him, fail to see how the Saints would of benefited by providing the Doggies with a tall forward last year when they were already only just a kick or two away from beating us in the qualifying finals last year?Bernard Shakey wrote:Exactly, we should have traded him at the end of '08, when he had some value. The Dogs wanted him and would have jumped at the opportunity.plugger66 wrote:This is a shocking thing to say and I will be bagged for it but the only reason I hope Kosi doesnt go is that we will get bugger all for him.SainterK wrote:I hope you're right...plugger66 wrote:We will lose someone to the GC IMO but I would think no one on this site has a clue who they may be. Kosi by the law of averages in much more chance to stay than go. I wouldnt worry what people say about who is staying going because the truth is I doubt anyone on here would have a clue.
Unless of course you had another trade in mind to get some other tall to the Saints to replace him?
Didn't happen and as plugger66 said he's worthless now.
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I know you disagree, but (imo) he is good value around the ground as second ruck. Unfortunately, GT keeps suggesting he return to that role and Ross is unlikely to be seen to be taking direction from the ex.Bernard Shakey wrote:Unfortunately "roam around" is all he does.bigcarl wrote:I just think he's being played out of position and expecting him to lead the attack in riewoldt's absence was a mistake.
when roo comes back and is lacking a little match fitness perhaps play him deep for a couple of weeks and move kosi out to chf where he can roam around a bit more.
all the focus will be on rooey anyway, so kosi will again draw the third best defender and cannot fail to improve on his meagre return this season.
he's a good shot at goal from 50-55 metres out.
IYOBernard Shakey wrote:Unfortunately "roam around" is all he does.bigcarl wrote:I just think he's being played out of position and expecting him to lead the attack in riewoldt's absence was a mistake.
when roo comes back and is lacking a little match fitness perhaps play him deep for a couple of weeks and move kosi out to chf where he can roam around a bit more.
all the focus will be on rooey anyway, so kosi will again draw the third best defender and cannot fail to improve on his meagre return this season.
he's a good shot at goal from 50-55 metres out.
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Not only my opinion, I assure can you.SainterK wrote:IYOBernard Shakey wrote:Unfortunately "roam around" is all he does.bigcarl wrote:I just think he's being played out of position and expecting him to lead the attack in riewoldt's absence was a mistake.
when roo comes back and is lacking a little match fitness perhaps play him deep for a couple of weeks and move kosi out to chf where he can roam around a bit more.
all the focus will be on rooey anyway, so kosi will again draw the third best defender and cannot fail to improve on his meagre return this season.
he's a good shot at goal from 50-55 metres out.
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I am serious and I shudder for Kosi's sake every time GT repeats it. He's no longer the coach and repeating it will only get the incumbent's back up.markp wrote:You cant be serious? You think RL would not do something just because GT thinks he should? Maybe he only kept Milne because GT wanted to get rid of him??bigcarl wrote:Unfortunately, GT keeps suggesting he return to that role and Ross is unlikely to be seen to be taking direction from the ex.
Ross is his own man and has made his own stamp on the team. I get the feeling he doesn't like unsolicited advice, particularly from his old nemesis.
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People have negative opinions about many of guys on the Saints list, Kosi has some pretty strong competition out there for most hated player...Bernard Shakey wrote:Not only my opinion, I assure can you.SainterK wrote:IYOBernard Shakey wrote:Unfortunately "roam around" is all he does.bigcarl wrote:I just think he's being played out of position and expecting him to lead the attack in riewoldt's absence was a mistake.
when roo comes back and is lacking a little match fitness perhaps play him deep for a couple of weeks and move kosi out to chf where he can roam around a bit more.
all the focus will be on rooey anyway, so kosi will again draw the third best defender and cannot fail to improve on his meagre return this season.
he's a good shot at goal from 50-55 metres out.
However it's really insignificant at the end of the day, because it's how they are regarded by the coach that will decide if they are worthless or deadwood.
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Your second last sentence just killed your argument. "Ross is his own man and has made his own stamp on the team."bigcarl wrote:I am serious and I shudder for Kosi's sake every time GT repeats it. He's no longer the coach and repeating it will only get the incumbent's back up.markp wrote:You cant be serious? You think RL would not do something just because GT thinks he should? Maybe he only kept Milne because GT wanted to get rid of him??bigcarl wrote:Unfortunately, GT keeps suggesting he return to that role and Ross is unlikely to be seen to be taking direction from the ex.
Ross is his own man and has made his own stamp on the team. I get the feeling he doesn't like unsolicited advice, particularly from his old nemesis.
He doesn't care one iota what GT or anyone else (except his assistants)have to say.
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If that is the case I'm delighted, because it means we may get to see Kosi at his best again.Bernard Shakey wrote:He doesn't care one iota what GT or anyone else (except his assistants) have to say.
Play him as second ruck, just as GT keeps urging. The press will have a field day with it.
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Where does the word "hated" come into this? Surely Saints supporters don't hate there own players? I think you've been reading too many of jboy's posts.SainterK wrote:People have negative opinions about many of guys on the Saints list, Kosi has some pretty strong competition out there for most hated player...Bernard Shakey wrote:Not only my opinion, I assure can you.SainterK wrote:IYOBernard Shakey wrote:Unfortunately "roam around" is all he does.bigcarl wrote:I just think he's being played out of position and expecting him to lead the attack in riewoldt's absence was a mistake.
when roo comes back and is lacking a little match fitness perhaps play him deep for a couple of weeks and move kosi out to chf where he can roam around a bit more.
all the focus will be on rooey anyway, so kosi will again draw the third best defender and cannot fail to improve on his meagre return this season.
he's a good shot at goal from 50-55 metres out.
However it's really insignificant at the end of the day, because it's how they are regarded by the coach that will decide if they are worthless or deadwood.
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