bj or hodgy

[stinger]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/p ... 5874688995


the clown can't even get the basic player statistics right.....

[Stillwaiting]

You can make anything out of those stats, hodge is slightly ahead but I would still take BJ, think he is more team orientated.

[stinger]

no,.. i meant height .....bj is 191cm tall......anyway...i'd take bj every time....so would others....


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/t ... 5874736896


"St Kilda's Brendon Goddard has emerged as the game's MVU - most valuable utility.

He has competition. Luke Hodge, Adam Goodes, Jimmy Bartel and Matthew Pavlich are players who can dominate in various roles, be it ruck and forward for Goodes, forward and midfield for Pavlich, and midfield and back for Hodge."

[clarky449]

If i was able to play with one of them, it would be Hodge. But i am very happy with Goddard at the saints and love watching him play.

[stinger]

If i was able to play with one of them, it would be Hodge. But i am very happy with Goddard at the saints and love watching him play.

know what you mean....

[SainterK]

While a nice topic, far too early to call yet....Hodge is also a year older and has played another seasons worth of games.

[rexy]

BJ by a stretch, accomplished player in defence midfield and attack.

[plugger66]

BJ by a stretch, accomplished player in defence midfield and attack.

As opposed to Hodge who can only play defence midfield and attack.

[shmic_s]

Give me BJ anyday. (No bias of course )

[linz]

Wish we'd drafted Hodgey instead of Ball & still had him playing for us. Would have been a double bonus then.

[rexy]

BJ by a stretch, accomplished player in defence midfield and attack.

As opposed to Hodge who can only play defence midfield and attack.

If you would prefer Hodge mate, then state it.

I think BJ is a much better forward than Hodge, wouldnt call Hodge accomplished in this area. Think he is probably a better mid as well, Hodge to me is a burst player in the guts, not an out and out mid like BJ can be.

I upset you or something mate, if so apologies, never been my intention.

[Saint4Eva]

Hodge has made his name as the quarter back, playing without an opponent and racking up the pozzies. Dont get me wrong he is a great player but BJ can mark better, is one of (maybe even the best) kick in the comp. Hodge may be better in the middle but BJ isnt far behind him there but BJ is miles ahead in the forward 50 so i think thats puts him just infront.......

Oh and im not bias in any way!

[St Ick]

Wish we'd drafted Hodgey instead of Ball & still had him playing for us. Would have been a double bonus then.

No point complaining now, we had no option to draft Hodgey that draft, we had the pick behind the Hawks. Only winge we can have is Judd instead of Ball but even still, whats the point?

When looking at that 'superdraft' of 2001, we really lucked out with some didn't we? Clarke over Bartel, Ball over Judd, Goose, just looked at the list and between 36 & 40 were Joey, GAblett & Sam Mitchell. Actually, Swan @ 58?! Anyway, the depth of that draft is a different topic for a different day!!!

edit: BJ any day but yes, Hodge is a top player too, just too much of a different player to compare IMO.

[Marcus1232]

wouldnt say no to hodge running around in the red white and black.....

but i love BJ

[Saint4Eva]

but i love BJ

Most guys do!!

[Moods]

I reckon they're completely different players. Hodge is tougher and harder (not that BJ is soft) Hodge pretty much wills the ball into his arms. Both are superb kicks. BJ slightly better overhead, (once again not that Hodge is poor) Both have match winning abilities and can turn a game. I reckon both clubs would be pretty happy with who they've got. It's like comparing Riewoldt to Brown - ridiculous.

[linz]

Wish we'd drafted Hodgey instead of Ball & still had him playing for us. Would have been a double bonus then.

No point complaining now, we had no option to draft Hodgey that draft, we had the pick behind the Hawks. Only winge we can have is Judd instead of Ball but even still, whats the point?

When looking at that 'superdraft' of 2001, we really lucked out with some didn't we? Clarke over Bartel, Ball over Judd, Goose, just looked at the list and between 36 & 40 were Joey, GAblett & Sam Mitchell. Actually, Swan @ 58?! Anyway, the depth of that draft is a different topic for a different day!!!

edit: BJ any day but yes, Hodge is a top player too, just too much of a different player to compare IMO.

I stand by my comment but I do agree and congratulate our recruiters for picking a few dusty diamonds as well who are now shining.

[linz]

Round Pick Player Recruited from Club
Priority 1 Luke Hodge Geelong Falcons Hawthorn
Priority 2 Luke Ball Sandringham Dragons St Kilda
Priority 3 Chris Judd Sandringham Dragons West Coast Eagles
1 4 Graham Polak East Fremantle Football Club Fremantle
1 5 Xavier Clarke St Mary's Football Club St Kilda
1 6 Ashley Sampi South Fremantle Football Club West Coast Eagles
1 7 David Hale Broadbeach Kangaroos
1 8 Jimmy Bartel Geelong Falcons Geelong
1 9 Luke Molan Geelong Falcons Melbourne
1 10 Sam Power Oakleigh Chargers Western Bulldogs
1 11 Richard Cole Eastern Ranges Collingwood
1 12 Brent Reilly Calder Cannons Adelaide
1 13 Nick Dal Santo Bendigo Pioneers St Kilda
1 14 Ashley Watson Bendigo Pioneers Kangaroos
1 15 Barry Brooks Tassie Mariners Port Adelaide
1 16 Rick Ladson Bendigo Pioneers Hawthorn
1 17 James Kelly Calder Cannons Geelong
1 18 Shane Harvey Northern Knights Essendon
1 19 Jason Gram Gippsland Power Brisbane Lions
2 20 Daniel Elstone Bendigo Pioneers Hawthorn
2 21 Matt Maguire Geelong Falcons St Kilda
2 22 Mark Seaby West Perth Football Club West Coast
2 23 Charlie Gardiner Sandringham Dragons Geelong
2 24 Steve Johnson Murray Bushrangers Geelong
2 25 Steven Armstrong Perth Football Club Melbourne
2 26 Aaron Rogers NSW/ACT Rams Melbourne
2 27 Tom Davidson Geelong Falcons Collingwood
2 28 Mark Powell Murray Bushrangers Sydney
2 29 Lewis Roberts-Thomson NSW/ACT Rams Sydney
2 30 Rod Crowe Sandringham Dragons Kangaroos
2 31 Joel Reynolds Geelong Falcons Essendon
2 32 Campbell Brown Oakleigh Chargers Hawthorn
2 33 David Rodan Calder Cannons Richmond
2 34 Simon O'Keefe Murray Bushrangers Essendon
2 35 Jarrad Wright Woodville-West Torrens Brisbane Lions
3 36 Sam Mitchell Box Hill Hawks Hawthorn
3 37 Leigh Montagna Northern Knights St Kilda
3 38 Ashley Hansen Oakleigh Chargers West Coast Eagles
3 39 Justin Davies Murray Bushrangers Carlton
3 40 (F/S) Gary Ablett, Jr. Geelong Falcons Geelong
3 41 Henry Playfair NSW/ACT Rams Geelong
3 42 Kieran McGuinness Eastern Ranges Western Bulldogs
3 43 Mark McGough Murray Bushrangers Collingwood
3 44 Ben Finnin Northern Knights Adelaide
3 45 Nathan Clarke Brisbane Brisbane Lions
3 46 (F/S) Jarrad Waite Murray Bushrangers Carlton
3 47 Andrew Welsh Calder Cannons Essendon
3 48 Simon Cox Western Bulldogs Hawthorn
3 49 Josh Houlihan Murray Bushrangers St Kilda
3 50 Paul Salmon Hawthorn Essendon
3 51 Pass - Brisbane Lions
4 52 Andrew Browne Claremont Fremantle
4 53 Daniel Hunt South Fremantle Sydney
4 54 Ben Robbins Kangaroos Brisbane Lions
4 55 Brad Miller Mt Gravatt Melbourne
4 56 Paul Medhurst Claremont Fremantle
4 57 Brent Colbert Northern Knights Western Bulldogs
4 58 Dane Swan Calder Cannons Collingwood
4 59 Jacob Schuback Gippsland Power Adelaide
4 60 Adam Schneider NSW/ACT Rams Sydney
4 61 Michael Martyn Kangaroos Kangaroos
4 62 Damon White Perth Port Adelaide
4 63 Adam Houlihan Geelong Richmond
4 64 Daniel McAlister Essendon Essendon
5 65 Pass - Brisbane Lions
5 66 Pass - Fremantle
5 67 Pass - St Kilda
6 68 Chris Hyde Richmond Richmond
6 69 Matthew McCarthy Old Xaverians Geelong
6 70 Pass - Melbourne
6 71 Brian Harris Woodville-West Torrens Western Bulldogs
6 72 Tristen Walker Claremont Collingwood
6 73 Pass - Adelaide
6 74 Ricky Mott South Fremantle Sydney
6 75 Sam Cranage Carlton Carlton
6 76 Jared Poulton Port Adelaide Port Adelaide
6 77 Marty McGrath South Fremantle Richmond
6 78 Pass - Essendon
7 79 Pass - St Kilda
7 80 Hugh Foott Bendigo Pioneers Kangaroos
7 81 David Johnson Essendon Rookies Geelong
7 82 Pass - Melbourne
8 83 Aaron James Richmond Western Bulldogs

Gee that number 37 might be a player too. Maybe with retrospect I would have drafted number 40 and then backed up with number 36.

I thought we had 1st choice with Bally (my mistake). Judd would have won us a flag (But who can be sure?)

[Sainternist]

I don't even like the comparison to begin with. They are two very different players.

[linz]

Wish we'd drafted Hodgey instead of Ball & still had him playing for us. Would have been a double bonus then.

No point complaining now, we had no option to draft Hodgey that draft, we had the pick behind the Hawks. Only winge we can have is Judd instead of Ball but even still, whats the point?

When looking at that 'superdraft' of 2001, we really lucked out with some didn't we? Clarke over Bartel, Ball over Judd, Goose, just looked at the list and between 36 & 40 were Joey, GAblett & Sam Mitchell. Actually, Swan @ 58?! Anyway, the depth of that draft is a different topic for a different day!!!

edit: BJ any day but yes, Hodge is a top player too, just too much of a different player to compare IMO.

I stand by my comment but I do agree and congratulate our recruiters for picking a few dusty diamonds as well who are now shining.

[Griggsy]

but i love BJ

Most guys do!!

Yeh BJs performance is outstanding

[SainterK]

People argued on SEN today that Hodge suffered more from white line fever, and was no longer Mr Nice Guy when he took the field.

I couldn't help but reflect on which of these two players, drilled a footy into the Freo cheer squad.

[Saintsfan]

I don't even like the comparison to begin with. They are two very different players.

How are they different?

Both are leaders. Both are pricks and assholes that you would rather next to you than playing against.

Both are in the top 5 players in the competition and score extra points for being able to play all positions. Both have a weakness in key defensive roles however them playing those positions are rare.

Both guns however for the sake of it. BJ because he should have more years left in him...albeit one...however both are stars and deservedly so.

[meher baba]

Geez that's a difficult choice.

But I'd have to say Hodge is the better one. They are both highly skilled, but Hodge's attitude and toughness makes him a rare gem. He hung incredibly tough in 2008 in both the PF against us and of course the GF. Since then, his team has effectively dropped the ball but he's continued to give 150% for his club.

Goddard is terrific, but he hasn't yet quite reached those heights of effort and performance.

I have to say that, whenever he appears on TV or radio, he always comes across as a pretty decent bloke.

Am I right in thinking that both Hodge and Bakes come from Colac? If so, it must be a place where they breed 'em a little rough around the edges but with a lot of heart.

[Teflon]

This is a cr@p comparison.

Hodge aint a utility for a start - he predominantly plays back floater with an occasional midfield run when his tank allows. Hodge has NEVER played fwd for any stretch.

Goddard IS a utility - hes played allover the shop.

I see the Hun had bartel as a utility - WTF?....hes an in/under mid FFS.

Very few true utilities in the game IMO.