fix the forward line

bigcarl · Post: # 924541Post **bigcarl** » Sun 16 May 2010 9:00pm

fix it or forget 2010

11 more inside 50s, and still we couldn't score, i read on another thread.

we need a potent forward and kosi isn't it.

SaintSimmo · Post: # 924548Post **SaintSimmo** » Sun 16 May 2010 9:01pm

the problem is more the backline than the forward line. kosi played well today.

SainterK · Post: # 924554Post **SainterK** » Sun 16 May 2010 9:04pm

Thought it looked much better and on the improve, however while the tall timber was showing signs of life, the crumbers were not.

2 goals from Milne Schneider and Mini is just not good enough.

PLENTY of times the ball spilt to ground and why on earth was Gardiner the only guy that seemed to be in the right place?

I agree the forward line can improve, but it is trending in the right direction unlike last week.

bigcarl · Post: # 924563Post **bigcarl** » Sun 16 May 2010 9:05pm

SaintSimmo wrote:kosi played well today.

kosi tried his guts out and pulled in a couple of great marks. however we went to him many times for little return.

ruck him imo and find a fast leading forward with some goal-kicking nous. goddard imo.

Bernard Shakey · Sun 16 May 2010 9:06pm

SainterK wrote:Thought it looked much better and on the improve, however while the tall timber was showing signs of life, the crumbers were not.

2 goals from Milne Schneider and Mini is just not good enough.

PLENTY of times the ball spilt to ground and why on earth was Gardiner the only guy that seemed to be in the right place?

I agree the forward line can improve, but it is trending in the right direction unlike last week.

Because Gardiner is a ten times better footballer than Kosi.

SainterK · Post: # 924606Post **SainterK** » Sun 16 May 2010 9:17pm

Bernard Shakey wrote:
SainterK wrote:Thought it looked much better and on the improve, however while the tall timber was showing signs of life, the crumbers were not.

2 goals from Milne Schneider and Mini is just not good enough.

PLENTY of times the ball spilt to ground and why on earth was Gardiner the only guy that seemed to be in the right place?

I agree the forward line can improve, but it is trending in the right direction unlike last week.
Because Gardiner is a ten times better footballer than Kosi.

You missed my point actually....at one point Gardiner picked up a crumb that Kosi produced that number 44, 13 or 32 should of been around for.

plugger66 · Post: # 924621Post **plugger66** » Sun 16 May 2010 9:21pm

SaintSimmo wrote:the problem is more the backline than the forward line. kosi played well today.

Kosi did not play well today. Two frees that had nothing to do with him and got 2 goals. Two good marks and 15 chances to take easier marks.

bigcarl · Post: # 924689Post **bigcarl** » Sun 16 May 2010 9:39pm

Stop stuffing around with defenders up forward, and put the only bloke with the size, skill and creativity to fill that spot up forward - Goddard - up forward, or change our game plan.

The one week BJ was played at CHF, he had 20+ possessions and kicked 5. It is beyond belief that he hasnt been played there since then

i've pinched this "n1ck" quote from another thread because it encapsulates what i think.

Bernard Shakey · Sun 16 May 2010 9:45pm

SainterK wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:
SainterK wrote:Thought it looked much better and on the improve, however while the tall timber was showing signs of life, the crumbers were not.

2 goals from Milne Schneider and Mini is just not good enough.

PLENTY of times the ball spilt to ground and why on earth was Gardiner the only guy that seemed to be in the right place?

I agree the forward line can improve, but it is trending in the right direction unlike last week.
Because Gardiner is a ten times better footballer than Kosi.
You missed my point actually....at one point Gardiner picked up a crumb that Kosi produced that number 44, 13 or 32 should of been around for.

I didn't miss your point. Kosi should take marks, not bring the ball to ground. That's a ruckman's role.

na exa · Post: # 924760Post **na exa** » Sun 16 May 2010 10:04pm

broken record time ...

plant gardner at ff.

battye · Post: # 924765Post **battye** » Sun 16 May 2010 10:06pm

na exa wrote:broken record time ...

plant gardner at ff.

If King was rucking I would agree. But McEvoy?

bigcarl · Post: # 924773Post **bigcarl** » Sun 16 May 2010 10:09pm

na exa wrote:broken record time.

i don't care if i sound like a broken record. i refuse to concede that we cannot win without riewoldt and will keep throwing up solutions.

this weeks solution is the same as last week's.

commit some quality resources to the forward line to replace one of the best forwards in the game.

kosi inside 50 is not working. goddard and gilbert imo. kosi to ruck.

Post: # 924778Post **n1ck** » Sun 16 May 2010 10:10pm

We have the cattle. Just have to use them efficiently. We're not at the moment.

Gilbert is suitable as a 3rd forward. I dont think hes right for a key forward spot.

Finna · Post: # 924780Post **Finna** » Sun 16 May 2010 10:10pm

plugger66 wrote:
SaintSimmo wrote:the problem is more the backline than the forward line. kosi played well today.
Kosi did not play well today. Two frees that had nothing to do with him and got 2 goals. Two good marks and 15 chances to take easier marks.

Agreed. If Kosi had of held onto his marks he could have kicked 6 and we'd be saying he's the answer up front.

He got himself into good position plenty of times only to drop the mark.....frustrating......

bigcarl · Post: # 924787Post **bigcarl** » Sun 16 May 2010 10:12pm

n1ck wrote:Gilbert is suitable as a 3rd forward. I dont think hes right for a key forward spot.

i don't know, he reminds me of a young GTrain. Quick and creative and can hurt you either in the air or on the ground.

SaintWal · Post: # 924789Post **SaintWal** » Sun 16 May 2010 10:13pm

Kosi's best game for the year and he still gets bagged. Good at the contest all night.

He will get better as well. After last weeks game I posted that the problem with Kosi is that we are trying to get him running from the wing back to full forward to then try and contest. May work with Roo but never Kosi's game. They settled him at most just outside the F50 arc and I think it looked much better.

Statsman · Post: # 924790Post **Statsman** » Sun 16 May 2010 10:13pm

Finna wrote:He got himself into good position plenty of times only to drop the mark.....frustrating......

Frustrating yes, but a marked improvement over previous weeks. Hopefully he'll build on today's performance and produce more next week.

bigcarl · Post: # 924797Post **bigcarl** » Sun 16 May 2010 10:17pm

SaintWal wrote:Kosi's best game for the year and he still gets bagged. Good at the contest all night.

he tried very hard and did some nice things. however we went to him many times for little reward in the way of goals. and the crumbers were noticeably absent.

once i thought he'd make it as a key forward, but now i concede that he just doesn't have the smarts ... as a forward.

certainly not to build an attack around.

na exa · Post: # 924798Post **na exa** » Sun 16 May 2010 10:18pm

broken record re me ...not you carl

gardy to ff
kosi and mac changing in the fp
give em a crumber

give the hf line over to raph/zac or raph/gilbert

forget kingy ...gawn

now organise the rest of em to get the pill up that end and stop the pill going to the other end .... kick it quick , long and hard at our end when we get within dobbing distance....

get a score on the board and watch their skills and confidence magically reappear.

bigcarl · Post: # 924804Post **bigcarl** » Sun 16 May 2010 10:19pm

na exa wrote:broken record re me ...not you carl .

oh, okay, sorry fella.

the paranoia is setting in.

SaintWal · Post: # 924811Post **SaintWal** » Sun 16 May 2010 10:20pm

I agree, Kosi needs a foil up forward and whether Ross likes it or not Stanley is the only option that will make other teams worry.

bigcarl wrote:
SaintWal wrote:Kosi's best game for the year and he still gets bagged. Good at the contest all night.
he tried very hard and did some nice things. however we went to him many times for little reward in the way of goals. and the crumbers were noticeably absent.

once i thought he'd make it as a key forward, but now i concede that he just doesn't have the smarts ... as a forward.

certainly not to build an attack around.

kalsaint · Post: # 924820Post **kalsaint** » Sun 16 May 2010 10:23pm

SainterK wrote:Thought it looked much better and on the improve, however while the tall timber was showing signs of life, the crumbers were not.

2 goals from Milne Schneider and Mini is just not good enough.

PLENTY of times the ball spilt to ground and why on earth was Gardiner the only guy that seemed to be in the right place?

I agree the forward line can improve, but it is trending in the right direction unlike last week.

Yes the forward structure has not always been good but the crumbers were lacking today in opportunity and forward pressure. Kosi could remain upright more and be a better target if the tackles were increased from our smaller forwards.

We still need an additional leading forward as support who is prepared to work and run hard.

bigcarl · Post: # 924821Post **bigcarl** » Sun 16 May 2010 10:23pm

SaintWal wrote:I agree, Kosi needs a foil up forward and whether Ross likes it or not Stanley is the only option that will make other teams worry.

goddard

dcstkfc · Post: # 924826Post **dcstkfc** » Sun 16 May 2010 10:26pm

bigcarl wrote:
SaintSimmo wrote:kosi played well today.
kosi tried his guts out and pulled in a couple of great marks. however we went to him many times for little return.

ruck him imo and find a fast leading forward with some goal-kicking nous. goddard imo.

He wasn't good today. Kicked okay, couple of great marks, but doesn't give anything at ground level, his inability to contest if he doesn't mark directly led to multiple Essendon scores. It was apparent in the NAB GF and it's apparent now.