Saints Press Conference after the Bulldogs game

[Mr Magic]

I didn't see it on tv, nor dd I hear any of the radio coverage of Ross's press conference after the game.
I did read on here some posts about there being a 'boycott' of sorts by the media.

I've not heard anything since Friday about it and was wondering if the media have 'boycotted' talking/mentioning anything about their 'boycott'?

[ausfatcat]

saw the press confrance on ch9 footy show on sunday

[Milan Faletic]

I didn't see it on tv, nor dd I hear any of the radio coverage of Ross's press conference after the game.
I did read on here some posts about there being a 'boycott' of sorts by the media.

I've not heard anything since Friday about it and was wondering if the media have 'boycotted' talking/mentioning anything about their 'boycott'?

I think the journos were planning to go to Eade's first thinking they had won. There was no one there at RL's at first but it might have been someone taking a bit of journalistic licence. RL was happy anyway and ready to go. Not exactly sure what happened but the footage was funny and he did have a PC.

[Stillwaiting]

Basically no one showed up. The explanation I heard was that they all thought dogs were going to win and left about 5 mins to go to get to the Dogs first. Apparently a common practice. Funny to see the empty press room

If they did boycott the knobs can p%ss off

[saintbrat]

here is some audio
http://sportal.com.au/mediaplayer/audio ... trong-7957

[Milan Faletic]

Interesting difference in reactions from each coach to the low scoring:

Lyon says there are two teams out there and other teams can be defensive as well.

Eade doesn't comment.

I wonder what Eade would have said if the Press cam to ask him about the Western Bulldogs great job in beating us at our "own game" and restricting us to 4 goals for the game. I don't think he would have made no comment then. We played 4 full quarters, Rodney, and that's why we won.

[evertonfc]

The explanation I heard was that they all thought dogs were going to win and left about 5 mins to go to get to the Dogs first.

I've heard of media managers doing this (to set up displays, etc) but not journalists.

I imagine they'd be under fire not only to watch the whole thing - as is part of their job - but to file for deadline.

As for a boycott, I sincerely doubt it. Ross Lyon has tried to improve his media relations. He's not perfect, far from it, and still doesn't like direct questions. However, it's not as bad as it was in 2007, when he did all that embarrassing overkill with rhetorical questions and smart-alec questions.

Must say I like how he does the interview with Ch 7 these days almost every week during the match. Yes, they're soft and he doesn't give much away, but it's money for jam because it looks great. He needed coercion at first but finally, I'd dare say he almost enjoys it now.

[benengel14]

He's still very defensive at the post-match pressers - he'll make it very clear when he doesn't like the premise of the question. I'm not convinced he (or the club's media people) have worked out the best way of responding to any gamestyle/free-flowing questions by the media. Especially in the pre-season of 08 (or 09) when you had GW making comments about wanting high-scoring matches...

Still has a habit of challenging the media by firing back semi-rhetorical questions particularly when it comes to statistical detail.
Everton: Do you not see this also?
Which makes great Ross Lyon v Media theatre, but I'm not sure sells the brand that well.

On another hand, his knowledge of precise stats broken down Qtr:Qtr is remarkable. But maybe all coaches have that information in mind they choose not to share it though.

[Stillwaiting]

The explanation I heard was that they all thought dogs were going to win and left about 5 mins to go to get to the Dogs first.

I've heard of media managers doing this (to set up displays, etc) but not journalists.

I imagine they'd be under fire not only to watch the whole thing - as is part of their job - but to file for deadline.

As for a boycott, I sincerely doubt it. Ross Lyon has tried to improve his media relations. He's not perfect, far from it, and still doesn't like direct questions. However, it's not as bad as it was in 2007, when he did all that embarrassing overkill with rhetorical questions and smart-alec questions.

Must say I like how he does the interview with Ch 7 these days almost every week during the match. Yes, they're soft and he doesn't give much away, but it's money for jam because it looks great. He needed coercion at first but finally, I'd dare say he almost enjoys it now.

I thought that expnation was a bit odd, as it would only take a few mis to get to the press area,

RL has become quite smooth with his press conferances, doesnt say much he has that cool dude walk happening.

[Saint Bev]

I thought the comments made on "On the Couch" were interesting. Not often the media defends us. Was nice to hear.

[Stillwaiting]

I thought the comments made on "On the Couch" were interesting. Not often the media defends us. Was nice to hear.

I avoided that show last night as I expected the same old saints bagging
So they actually were ok were they?

[saint75]

I thought the comments made on "On the Couch" were interesting. Not often the media defends us. Was nice to hear.

I avoided that show last night as I expected the same old saints bagging
So they actually were ok were they?

2 out of the 3 shows were quite good. More about the Bulldogs than it was the Saints. On the Couch and One Week at a Time gave it to the Bulldogs. It was also mentioned by both programs that the Bulldogs went in more defensive against us, so they believe it was not only us being 'defensive'.

According to Caro last night on Footy Classified, the poor old Bullies were a little peeved with RL's comments in his press conference after the game. How dare Ross accuse the Dogs of going in just as defensive as us? What was he thinkng....

Thommo's comments irked me, but he is not a favourite of mine at the best of times. He sure had a lot to say about his white haired boy who nows plays for the filth. Yes Thommo, we do know how much you love Luke Ball. Certainly quite a bit if his inflated contract with us over the last 3 years was anything to go by.

[Stillwaiting]

I thought the comments made on "On the Couch" were interesting. Not often the media defends us. Was nice to hear.

I avoided that show last night as I expected the same old saints bagging
So they actually were ok were they?

2 out of the 3 shows were quite good. More about the Bulldogs than it was the Saints. On the Couch and One Week at a Time gave it to the Bulldogs. It was also mentioned by both programs that the Bulldogs went in more defensive against us, so they believe it was not only us being 'defensive'.

According to Caro last night on Footy Classified, the poor old Bullies were a little peeved with RL's comments in his press conference after the game. How dare Ross accuse the Dogs of going in just as defensive as us? What was he thinkng....

Thommo's comments irked me, but he is not a favourite of mine at the best of times. He sure had a lot to say about his white haired boy who nows plays for the filth. Yes Thommo, we do know how much you love Luke Ball. Certainly quite a bit if his inflated contract with us over the last 3 years was anything to go by.

Good that it wasnt all put on us, as the press may not realise, there was 2 teams involved in the match

As for the Dogs, they really need to get away from the world against us crap they have been pouring on sisne the firtzroy merger went arse up in the 80`s. Smorgon should go back to chasing ambulances

[Mr Magic]

I thought the comments made on "On the Couch" were interesting. Not often the media defends us. Was nice to hear.

I avoided that show last night as I expected the same old saints bagging
So they actually were ok were they?

2 out of the 3 shows were quite good. More about the Bulldogs than it was the Saints. On the Couch and One Week at a Time gave it to the Bulldogs. It was also mentioned by both programs that the Bulldogs went in more defensive against us, so they believe it was not only us being 'defensive'.

According to Caro last night on Footy Classified, the poor old Bullies were a little peeved with RL's comments in his press conference after the game. How dare Ross accuse the Dogs of going in just as defensive as us? What was he thinkng....

Thommo's comments irked me, but he is not a favourite of mine at the best of times. He sure had a lot to say about his white haired boy who nows plays for the filth. Yes Thommo, we do know how much you love Luke Ball. Certainly quite a bit if his inflated contract with us over the last 3 years was anything to go by.

Good that it wasnt all put on us, as the press may not realise, there was 2 teams involved in the match

As for the Dogs, they really need to get away from the world against us crap they have been pouring on sisne the firtzroy merger went arse up in the 80`s. Smorgon should go back to chasing ambulances

Wrong Smorgon - this one's not a lawyer.

[plugger66]

I thought the comments made on "On the Couch" were interesting. Not often the media defends us. Was nice to hear.

I avoided that show last night as I expected the same old saints bagging
So they actually were ok were they?

2 out of the 3 shows were quite good. More about the Bulldogs than it was the Saints. On the Couch and One Week at a Time gave it to the Bulldogs. It was also mentioned by both programs that the Bulldogs went in more defensive against us, so they believe it was not only us being 'defensive'.

According to Caro last night on Footy Classified, the poor old Bullies were a little peeved with RL's comments in his press conference after the game. How dare Ross accuse the Dogs of going in just as defensive as us? What was he thinkng....

Thommo's comments irked me, but he is not a favourite of mine at the best of times. He sure had a lot to say about his white haired boy who nows plays for the filth. Yes Thommo, we do know how much you love Luke Ball. Certainly quite a bit if his inflated contract with us over the last 3 years was anything to go by.

What has GT got to do with Bally contract?

[Stillwaiting]

I thought the comments made on "On the Couch" were interesting. Not often the media defends us. Was nice to hear.

I avoided that show last night as I expected the same old saints bagging
So they actually were ok were they?

2 out of the 3 shows were quite good. More about the Bulldogs than it was the Saints. On the Couch and One Week at a Time gave it to the Bulldogs. It was also mentioned by both programs that the Bulldogs went in more defensive against us, so they believe it was not only us being 'defensive'.

According to Caro last night on Footy Classified, the poor old Bullies were a little peeved with RL's comments in his press conference after the game. How dare Ross accuse the Dogs of going in just as defensive as us? What was he thinkng....

Thommo's comments irked me, but he is not a favourite of mine at the best of times. He sure had a lot to say about his white haired boy who nows plays for the filth. Yes Thommo, we do know how much you love Luke Ball. Certainly quite a bit if his inflated contract with us over the last 3 years was anything to go by.

Good that it wasnt all put on us, as the press may not realise, there was 2 teams involved in the match

As for the Dogs, they really need to get away from the world against us crap they have been pouring on sisne the firtzroy merger went arse up in the 80`s. Smorgon should go back to chasing ambulances

Wrong Smorgon - this one's not a lawyer.

Sorry, thought it was the same person

[evertonfc]

Still has a habit of challenging the media by firing back semi-rhetorical questions particularly when it comes to statistical detail.
Everton: Do you not see this also?
Which makes great Ross Lyon v Media theatre, but I'm not sure sells the brand that well.

Yeah, have to agree with all that. It's a self-defence mechanism. Ross still finds it tough in the spotlight. I think he'll always struggle with tough questions, but that's just his personality. Look at Malthouse - he combusts under direct questions and loses his cool. It's not classy, but he's still a good coach. Pim Verbeek, the Socceroos coach, also can't stand any questioning of his tactics or style. Everyone has their strong and weak points and these guys just don't look comfortable when they're under the microscope. Brand 'image' is often linked to media performance, it can't be ignored. All three have hurt their brand in the past (Verbeek and Malthouse last year, Lyon in 2007) with such antics.

Still I just think it's about developing a tougher hide, not taking it personally and remembering that every time you speak, it's an opportunity to communicate openly and honestly with members. Little psycho-babble games with journalists and those horrendous semi-rehtorical questions have gotta go.

But as I say, he's improved a lot, let's hope he keeps improving.

[rexy]

Still has a habit of challenging the media by firing back semi-rhetorical questions particularly when it comes to statistical detail.
Everton: Do you not see this also?
Which makes great Ross Lyon v Media theatre, but I'm not sure sells the brand that well.

Yeah, have to agree with all that. It's a self-defence mechanism. Ross still finds it tough in the spotlight. I think he'll always struggle with tough questions, but that's just his personality. Look at Malthouse - he combusts under direct questions and loses his cool. It's not classy, but he's still a good coach. Pim Verbeek, the Socceroos coach, also can't stand any questioning of his tactics or style. Everyone has their strong and weak points and these guys just don't look comfortable when they're under the microscope. Brand 'image' is often linked to media performance, it can't be ignored. All three have hurt their brand in the past (Verbeek and Malthouse last year, Lyon in 2007) with such antics.

Still I just think it's about developing a tougher hide, not taking it personally and remembering that every time you speak, it's an opportunity to communicate openly and honestly with members. Little psycho-babble games with journalists and those horrendous semi-rehtorical questions have gotta go.

But as I say, he's improved a lot, let's hope he keeps improving.

Often I dont think he expresses himself quite how he means too, dont think he was blaming the bulldogs for the game style, think he was just saying it takes two to tango, way it came across though was that it was their fault.

Just my perception but the media are never going to sell it that way.

[evertonfc]

Often I dont think he expresses himself quite how he means too, dont think he was blaming the bulldogs for the game style, think he was just saying it takes two to tango, way it came across though was that it was their fault.

He gets tongue-tied a little bit, no question. Just as his coaching needed fine-tuning in the early days, his communication also needs a bit of work.

I'm sure it will come.

[SainterK]

Often I dont think he expresses himself quite how he means too, dont think he was blaming the bulldogs for the game style, think he was just saying it takes two to tango, way it came across though was that it was their fault.

He gets tongue-tied a little bit, no question. Just as his coaching needed fine-tuning in the early days, his communication also needs a bit of work.

I'm sure it will come.

and to be fair, sometimes you can't hear the questions, could of been particularly annoying