Sorry but Gards isnt an option either. If either Stanley,Pattison or Cahill perform on Sunday one will play. If they dont then they will mix and match with what they have. Surely one of those 3 can play well against Frankston. Stanley is my preferred option at this stage.bigcarl wrote:so you liked the first suggestion better plugger? just out of interest what would be your solution to restructuring the forward line without riewoldt?plugger66 wrote:Stanley could never play CHF he would get lost. If he plays it will be FF. BJ will play on the ball and float forward. Raph has never and will never be a hff.bigcarl wrote:or, if stanley is deemed ready. goddard ff, stanley chf, raph hff, though that would leave us without a strong contested marking target such as kosi/gardiner.bigcarl wrote:gardiner to play kosi's role, goddard to play roo's. raph in to play like bj around the ground (if only).
i like the look of stanley very much but he needs goals/games on the board.
btw, i think we're going to have to play bj mainly as a forward. no one else in the team who can play tall has his goal-kicking nous.
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bj will spend a lot more time forward imo.plugger66 wrote:Sorry but Gards isnt an option either. If either Stanley,Pattison or Cahill perform on Sunday one will play. If they dont then they will mix and match with what they have. Surely one of those 3 can play well against Frankston. Stanley is my preferred option at this stage.bigcarl wrote:so you liked the first suggestion better plugger? just out of interest what would be your solution to restructuring the forward line without riewoldt?plugger66 wrote:Stanley could never play CHF he would get lost. If he plays it will be FF. BJ will play on the ball and float forward. Raph has never and will never be a hff.bigcarl wrote:or, if stanley is deemed ready. goddard ff, stanley chf, raph hff, though that would leave us without a strong contested marking target such as kosi/gardiner.bigcarl wrote:gardiner to play kosi's role, goddard to play roo's. raph in to play like bj around the ground (if only).
i like the look of stanley very much but he needs goals/games on the board.
btw, i think we're going to have to play bj mainly as a forward. no one else in the team who can play tall has his goal-kicking nous.
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bj will spend a lot more time forward imo.plugger66 wrote:Sorry but Gards isnt an option either. If either Stanley,Pattison or Cahill perform on Sunday one will play. If they dont then they will mix and match with what they have. Surely one of those 3 can play well against Frankston. Stanley is my preferred option at this stage.bigcarl wrote:so you liked the first suggestion better plugger? just out of interest what would be your solution to restructuring the forward line without riewoldt?plugger66 wrote:Stanley could never play CHF he would get lost. If he plays it will be FF. BJ will play on the ball and float forward. Raph has never and will never be a hff.bigcarl wrote:or, if stanley is deemed ready. goddard ff, stanley chf, raph hff, though that would leave us without a strong contested marking target such as kosi/gardiner.bigcarl wrote:gardiner to play kosi's role, goddard to play roo's. raph in to play like bj around the ground (if only).
i like the look of stanley very much but he needs goals/games on the board.
btw, i think we're going to have to play bj mainly as a forward. no one else in the team who can play tall has his goal-kicking nous.
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My thoughts exactly and hence my earlier post.plugger66 wrote:
If either Stanley,Pattison or Cahill perform on Sunday one will play. .
If Zac had been in form they might have moved Zac to FF for one game as Freo do not havea tall FF..only medium sized players.
They may do that still. However I pesonally would drop Zac to send a message that FB is only his if he performs.
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To much pressure on him to kick goals. Could be right but I think they will just pick someone to try and replace Rooy as best as possible. If our midfield is dominate next week, we win whoever plays forward and that is why I reckon Bj will play in the middle.bigcarl wrote:bj will spend a lot more time forward imo.plugger66 wrote:Sorry but Gards isnt an option either. If either Stanley,Pattison or Cahill perform on Sunday one will play. If they dont then they will mix and match with what they have. Surely one of those 3 can play well against Frankston. Stanley is my preferred option at this stage.bigcarl wrote:so you liked the first suggestion better plugger? just out of interest what would be your solution to restructuring the forward line without riewoldt?plugger66 wrote:Stanley could never play CHF he would get lost. If he plays it will be FF. BJ will play on the ball and float forward. Raph has never and will never be a hff.bigcarl wrote:or, if stanley is deemed ready. goddard ff, stanley chf, raph hff, though that would leave us without a strong contested marking target such as kosi/gardiner.bigcarl wrote:gardiner to play kosi's role, goddard to play roo's. raph in to play like bj around the ground (if only).
i like the look of stanley very much but he needs goals/games on the board.
btw, i think we're going to have to play bj mainly as a forward. no one else in the team who can play tall has his goal-kicking nous.
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Goddard will stay playing as our utility.
He is a mid with a 007 licence to do damage by going forward.
He is a mid with a 007 licence to do damage by going forward.
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our midfield was dominant in the grand final yet we didn't win. you've got to put it on the board also and without riewoldt that is a big concern.plugger66 wrote:To much pressure on him to kick goals. Could be right but I think they will just pick someone to try and replace Rooy as best as possible. If our midfield is dominate next week, we win whoever plays forward and that is why I reckon Bj will play in the middle.bigcarl wrote:bj will spend a lot more time forward imo.
they will probably have a bob each way and swing him to ff if we are struggling to impact on the scoreboard.
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1/ No you have to kick straight. we had enough shots at goal in the GF including many easy ones to have won.bigcarl wrote:
our midfield was dominant in the grand final yet we didn't win. you've got to put it on the board also.
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2/ Midfielders are also allowed to kick goals. BJ as a mid improves the capacity of having our midfield contribute goals IMO.
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BJ puts it on the board/kicks straight. If we can wean ourselves off our dependence of him down back and in the middle, for large parts of the game and get him dominating up forward, many of our issues will be solved. We have many good options to take his place in the middle or down back, but none that come close to matching what he would/could do up forward.
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For the one week we will be without both Roo & Kosi I think they will go with a makeshift smaller lineup with maybe Raph coming in & freeing up one of the half backs to go forward.
With Kosi back for the Port game it will be his time to make the forward line his own.
Stanley's time will come but I'm not sure it will be in the near future.
With Kosi back for the Port game it will be his time to make the forward line his own.
Stanley's time will come but I'm not sure it will be in the near future.
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Totally agree with that. Isn't SOS telling him to stop doing this? He'd surely be a lot more effective if he actually went for the ball every now and then, or at least saw where it was. Instead, he's searching for body contact, even though he's lost a lot of weight and is not as strong as he was, so he's playing to his weakness. He'd surely be better off using his height and reach to spoil the ball.Teflon wrote:Zac HAS to stop turning his back on the ball/play in a marking contest.
He was ordinary tonight and looks really vulnerable 1 on 1.
Without help its a weak link...
He's having an absolute shocker of a year so far, although he seemed to do better in the second half last night.
He needs to improve before the end of the year, or it could cost us in big games, against the likes of Barry Hall, J Brown, Tom Hawkins.
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well, he is very important to us in the middle so i can see what you are saying. it's just a worry going into matches without a genuine goal-kicking key forward.plugger66 wrote:To much pressure on him to kick goals. Could be right but I think they will just pick someone to try and replace Rooy as best as possible. If our midfield is dominate next week, we win whoever plays forward and that is why I reckon Bj will play in the middle.
probably we should keep the structure as normal as possible, bearing in mind that whoever plays riewoldt's role isn't riewoldt.
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any of you armchair selectors/coaches interested in what the real coach has to say on the subject of roos replacement????
.i quote...."..we have kosi back in a week....stanley .....and gardiner is a pretty fair forward....."
.i quote...."..we have kosi back in a week....stanley .....and gardiner is a pretty fair forward....."
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totally agree with you p66, I think we need to ban any talk of changes until sandy has played and al players have traineda few times this week.plugger66 wrote:How did he go Sunday?Munga wrote:Agree, straight swap Roo for Stanley. He's tall and athletic. Make it happen.
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Thanks for that. It makes sense and you obviously know it.Solar wrote:totally agree with you p66, I think we need to ban any talk of changes until sandy has played and al players have traineda few times this week.plugger66 wrote:How did he go Sunday?Munga wrote:Agree, straight swap Roo for Stanley. He's tall and athletic. Make it happen.
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He is raw as an uncooked piece of meat....but sure let's play him to appease fans.....
He looks great however he took a contested mark and kicked a goal a game....that being said he did a few good things a game however so did Tom Lynch and nobody is tooting is horn like the second coming of Tommy Walsh...
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He looks great however he took a contested mark and kicked a goal a game....that being said he did a few good things a game however so did Tom Lynch and nobody is tooting is horn like the second coming of Tommy Walsh...
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plugger66 wrote:Thanks for that. It makes sense and you obviously know it.Solar wrote:totally agree with you p66, I think we need to ban any talk of changes until sandy has played and al players have traineda few times this week.plugger66 wrote:How did he go Sunday?Munga wrote:Agree, straight swap Roo for Stanley. He's tall and athletic. Make it happen.
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Who the hell is Sam. Your leading cleaner?stinger wrote:plugger66 wrote:Thanks for that. It makes sense and you obviously know it.Solar wrote:totally agree with you p66, I think we need to ban any talk of changes until sandy has played and al players have traineda few times this week.plugger66 wrote:How did he go Sunday?Munga wrote:Agree, straight swap Roo for Stanley. He's tall and athletic. Make it happen.
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thats why I suggested itplugger66 wrote:Thanks for that. It makes sense and you obviously know it.Solar wrote:totally agree with you p66, I think we need to ban any talk of changes until sandy has played and al players have traineda few times this week.plugger66 wrote:How did he go Sunday?Munga wrote:Agree, straight swap Roo for Stanley. He's tall and athletic. Make it happen.
New SS rule, no talk of replacements until p66 makes the "guess who the change will be" thread
are there any other no go areas? Perhaps we should have another forum where we can pass through ideas on what threads can be posted and you can look over them and give us your wisdom.
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and we are off and racingplugger66 wrote:Who the hell is Sam. Your leading cleaner?stinger wrote:plugger66 wrote:Thanks for that. It makes sense and you obviously know it.Solar wrote:totally agree with you p66, I think we need to ban any talk of changes until sandy has played and al players have traineda few times this week.plugger66 wrote:How did he go Sunday?Munga wrote:Agree, straight swap Roo for Stanley. He's tall and athletic. Make it happen.
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