http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx
SYDNEY Swans coach Paul Roos is surprised by the match review panel’s failure to charge St Kilda’s Zac Dawson after a collision that left Tadhg Kennelly with concussion on Saturday night.
Kennelly had to be helped from the field late in the game after being hit by Dawson from behind in a marking contest. He vomited after the match and was still suffering headaches on Sunday morning.
swans mystified that dawson escaped charges
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
-
bigcarl
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 18636
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 1:36am
- Has thanked: 1980 times
- Been thanked: 865 times
swans mystified that dawson escaped charges
Last edited by bigcarl on Mon 29 Mar 2010 6:27pm, edited 1 time in total.
-
ace
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10783
- Joined: Sun 16 Dec 2007 3:28pm
- Location: St Kilda
- Has thanked: 31 times
- Been thanked: 830 times
First, the MRP would have to over rule the umpire and deem the mark to have been completed.An example of negligent contact may be where a player collides
with another player who has taken a mark and where contact
occurs just after the mark has been taken. The offending player
has a duty of care to avoid any contact which would constitute
a reportable offence by slowing his momentum as much as he
reasonably can and a failure to do so constitutes negligent.
In the example given under negligent above, if a player
collides with another player who has marked the ball, in
circumstances where there is some further time after the mark
has been taken, and where he blindly continued on, to contact
the player taking the mark, then the act would best be described
as reckless.
I believe the umpire was wrong and the mark completed.
Second, the MRP would have to deem that Dawson could have pulled out once the mark was taken.
Third that Dawson's intent was to collide, which he did, but only after he punched the ball which would seem to be his first intent.
Lucky the umpire got the call wrong and that he hit the ball and not the head first.
The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
-
bergsone
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 2928
- Joined: Mon 28 Apr 2008 4:56pm
- Location: victoria
- Has thanked: 265 times
- Been thanked: 121 times
Re: swans mystified why dawson escaped charges
Contest being the word,one trying to mark,other trying to punch ,nothing in it.Maybe Roos wants to take the contest out of the game,at least zac made contact with the ball,unlike Hille.bigcarl wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx
SYDNEY Swans coach Paul Roos is surprised by the match review panel’s failure to charge St Kilda’s Zac Dawson after a collision that left Tadhg Kennelly with concussion on Saturday night.
Kennelly had to be helped from the field late in the game after being hit by Dawson from behind in a marking contest. He vomited after the match and was still suffering headaches on Sunday morning.
-
R. Harvey 3 votes!
- Club Player
- Posts: 553
- Joined: Mon 04 Aug 2008 7:46pm
- Been thanked: 7 times
This is ironic! Paul Roos is wondering how Zac Dawson didn't cited? Well why wasn't he mystified how Barry Hall got off and played in a grand final after he belted Matt Maquire and then played in a premiership?
You can cop it when it suits you Sydney and Roos, but cry and whine like babies when it goes the other way! Stick that up ya!
You can cop it when it suits you Sydney and Roos, but cry and whine like babies when it goes the other way! Stick that up ya!
When Harvey played his first game in 1988, I was a 12yo wearing short pants and struggling with my readin', writin' and 'rithmetic in grade eight. Now, I'm a father of three and a retired AFL player. And he's still going. Amazing! - Michael Voss
There seems to be a whole new set of rules too.
Once upon a time players and clubs tried to get their opponents off charges, then it became "just tell the truth". Now we have a couple of examples already from Melbourne and Sydney where clubs are crying that opposition players should be cited.
Wha has happened to a code of ethics, football is a contact sport, sometimes you will get hurt. Suck it up.
Once upon a time players and clubs tried to get their opponents off charges, then it became "just tell the truth". Now we have a couple of examples already from Melbourne and Sydney where clubs are crying that opposition players should be cited.
Wha has happened to a code of ethics, football is a contact sport, sometimes you will get hurt. Suck it up.
Maybe this year?
-
remboy
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2133
- Joined: Fri 22 Jul 2005 9:27am
- Location: Rockville
- Has thanked: 587 times
- Been thanked: 178 times
I used to like Paul Roos but it seems that since the Swans have stopped being a top 4 side he's becoming a big sook. I'll cop Kosi getting weeks but if Dawson had been suspended we might as well pull out the bibs and play netball.R. Harvey 3 votes! wrote:This is ironic! Paul Roos is wondering how Zac Dawson didn't cited? Well why wasn't he mystified how Barry Hall got off and played in a grand final after he belted Matt Maquire and then played in a premiership?
You can cop it when it suits you Sydney and Roos, but cry and whine like babies when it goes the other way! Stick that up ya!
Opinions are like arseholes, everybody's got one.
-
happy feet
- Club Player
- Posts: 1834
- Joined: Wed 27 Feb 2008 7:27pm
- Has thanked: 227 times
- Been thanked: 348 times
I'm mystified
I am mystified as to how the Swans get away with throwing the ball so often. The telecast last Saturday night showed this on so many occasions it was not funny. What does everyone else think?
-
satchmo
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6656
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 12:24pm
- Location: Hotel Bastardos
- Has thanked: 198 times
- Been thanked: 166 times
- Contact:
Re: I'm mystified
Even my wife picked that up. Do they train that way?happy feet wrote:I am mystified as to how the Swans get away with throwing the ball so often. The telecast last Saturday night showed this on so many occasions it was not funny. What does everyone else think?
*Allegedly.
Bring back Lucky Burgers, and nobody gets hurt.
You can't un-fry things.
Last Post
Bring back Lucky Burgers, and nobody gets hurt.
You can't un-fry things.
Last Post
-
Sainternist
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 11351
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 12:57am
- Location: South of Heaven
- Has thanked: 1344 times
- Been thanked: 459 times
-
Thinline
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6043
- Joined: Mon 21 May 2007 5:31pm
- Location: Currumbin, Quoinslairnd
I think Roos oughta return to being the humble, interesting, thoughtful bloke he used to be.
He's becoming a real big mouthed whinger.
29-18 free count in his favour, any number of throws unpaid, any number of jumper pulls and back pushes unpaid...FFS...
Maybe he shoulda given it away...
As to incident in question...IMO If the mark had been paid, Dawson would have been cited. IMO he would have got off. Absolutely no malice in the act. Eyes only for the ball and contact was incidental to the primary action which was to spoil.
He's becoming a real big mouthed whinger.
29-18 free count in his favour, any number of throws unpaid, any number of jumper pulls and back pushes unpaid...FFS...
Maybe he shoulda given it away...
As to incident in question...IMO If the mark had been paid, Dawson would have been cited. IMO he would have got off. Absolutely no malice in the act. Eyes only for the ball and contact was incidental to the primary action which was to spoil.
"The inches we need are everywhere around us. They're in every break in the game. Every minute, every second. On this team we fight for that inch. On this team we tear ourselves and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's gonna make the f***in' difference between winning and losing! Between living and dying!'
Re: I'm mystified
They're playing basketball duh....happy feet wrote:I am mystified as to how the Swans get away with throwing the ball so often. The telecast last Saturday night showed this on so many occasions it was not funny. What does everyone else think?
Fortius Quo Fidelius Yo
-
Bernard Shakey
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 11240
- Joined: Sun 18 Mar 2007 11:22pm
- Location: Down By The River 1989, 2003, 2009 & 2013
- Has thanked: 126 times
- Been thanked: 137 times
This is 2010.R. Harvey 3 votes! wrote:This is ironic! Paul Roos is wondering how Zac Dawson didn't cited? Well why wasn't he mystified how Barry Hall got off and played in a grand final after he belted Matt Maquire and then played in a premiership?
You can cop it when it suits you Sydney and Roos, but cry and whine like babies when it goes the other way! Stick that up ya!
If you are still living in 2005, I've got news for you, the rest of us have moved on.
Old enough to repaint, but young enough to sell
Spot on, next you wont be allowed to chase people incase they do a hamstring?goodie wrote:Trying to kill the bump is one thing, taking the spoil out of the equation is another
FFS, I can see how Kosi got done, although I think 3 weeks is stiff. But come on, Dawson was a good spoil, eyes on the ball doing his job.
Maybe this year?
-
matrix
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 21475
- Joined: Mon 21 May 2007 1:55pm
- Has thanked: 4 times
- Been thanked: 4 times
4 weeksrexy wrote:Spot on, next you wont be allowed to chase people incase they do a hamstring?goodie wrote:Trying to kill the bump is one thing, taking the spoil out of the equation is another
FFS, I can see how Kosi got done, although I think 3 weeks is stiff. But come on, Dawson was a good spoil, eyes on the ball doing his job.
he got 4
3 if he accepts plea
which is crap imo
4 weeks for that???
soft
-
barks4eva
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10748
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 12:39pm
- Has thanked: 190 times
- Been thanked: 92 times
Now that is truly mystifying!stinger wrote:barks4eva wrote:Has B. Harvey been given weeks for his blatant punch?
That is truly mystifying!
cleared.....
As for Dawson, what are the swans smoking, FAIR DINKUM,
absolutely nothing in it, a defender spoils and punches the ball!
DO THE MATHS AND THE SQUARES ARE ALL ROOTED.
