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I can't believe how much I enjoyed watching parts of last nights game, even though it was delayed and had the most terrible coverage.
I just loved seeing McEvoy tap it down to Armitage, who would kick it to a contest that would be crummbed by Lynch who would give it off to Stanley for a goal.
I love seeing Lynch kick it 40 meters to hit Geary on the belly button.
Armitage's in and under work was as good as always but he seems to be really adjusting to the game a bit more and could become a real clearance machine for us.
Geary, Lynch, Armitage and Stanley have all shown they know where the goals are.
McEvoy looks like he will be a very servicable ruckman (even if he does jump to early for mine) as well as being very handy around the ground.
Gaetner did enough to show he might have something special as well.
We also have Steven in the sidelines who has shown he is all class as well as two players who could be major bonuses in Jesse Smith and Tommy Walsh.
Not to mention we've got players like Goddard, Gilbert, Zac, McQualter, Schneider etc. who aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
This is the most excited I've been about a group of young players since we had Riewoldt, Kosi, Ball, Xavier, Dal Santo, Maguire, Montagna, Goddard and Raph all come through over a few years.
The loss of Luke Ball really doesn't seem that bad now that Armitage really looks like he is going to force himself into that position.
The Lovett farce doesn't seem like the massive blow that it was a few months ago either. If we could have a Geary or a Gwilt come into the side and really make a half back flank their own that could realease Gram to play the role we had earmarked for Lovett and on exposed form Gram looks like he is ready to take his game to the next level and really try to decrease the difference between his best and his worst, as a matter of fact, considering his form in his last two grand finals he might be worth putting a few bucks on for the Tuck medal next week
It is a real credit to our recruiting and development teams that we have managed to develop so many players in such a short period of time without having access to any good draft picks and by taking full advantage of the rookie drafts (God bless Clinton Jones )
It's good to be in another GF, yes it's just a practise match, but it is so important that we maintain the winning culture that we have been developing since GT's arrival and have taken to a whole new level since RL's arrival.
Having said that though it is important that we stick to the plan and allow our youngster to do the majority of the work this week and use our older players very sparingly with round one as the primary focus.
One thing that you always hear coming out of the top teams is how important the internal competition for spots is, how it drives them all that little bit harder, I have no doubt that this is the case and this is the healthiest our depth has been in my lifetime.
Looking forward to not only a good year, but a good few years coming up.
I just loved seeing McEvoy tap it down to Armitage, who would kick it to a contest that would be crummbed by Lynch who would give it off to Stanley for a goal.
I love seeing Lynch kick it 40 meters to hit Geary on the belly button.
Armitage's in and under work was as good as always but he seems to be really adjusting to the game a bit more and could become a real clearance machine for us.
Geary, Lynch, Armitage and Stanley have all shown they know where the goals are.
McEvoy looks like he will be a very servicable ruckman (even if he does jump to early for mine) as well as being very handy around the ground.
Gaetner did enough to show he might have something special as well.
We also have Steven in the sidelines who has shown he is all class as well as two players who could be major bonuses in Jesse Smith and Tommy Walsh.
Not to mention we've got players like Goddard, Gilbert, Zac, McQualter, Schneider etc. who aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
This is the most excited I've been about a group of young players since we had Riewoldt, Kosi, Ball, Xavier, Dal Santo, Maguire, Montagna, Goddard and Raph all come through over a few years.
The loss of Luke Ball really doesn't seem that bad now that Armitage really looks like he is going to force himself into that position.
The Lovett farce doesn't seem like the massive blow that it was a few months ago either. If we could have a Geary or a Gwilt come into the side and really make a half back flank their own that could realease Gram to play the role we had earmarked for Lovett and on exposed form Gram looks like he is ready to take his game to the next level and really try to decrease the difference between his best and his worst, as a matter of fact, considering his form in his last two grand finals he might be worth putting a few bucks on for the Tuck medal next week
It is a real credit to our recruiting and development teams that we have managed to develop so many players in such a short period of time without having access to any good draft picks and by taking full advantage of the rookie drafts (God bless Clinton Jones )
It's good to be in another GF, yes it's just a practise match, but it is so important that we maintain the winning culture that we have been developing since GT's arrival and have taken to a whole new level since RL's arrival.
Having said that though it is important that we stick to the plan and allow our youngster to do the majority of the work this week and use our older players very sparingly with round one as the primary focus.
One thing that you always hear coming out of the top teams is how important the internal competition for spots is, how it drives them all that little bit harder, I have no doubt that this is the case and this is the healthiest our depth has been in my lifetime.
Looking forward to not only a good year, but a good few years coming up.
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Re: Our Youngsters
yes, this is very healthy and the sign of a successful club.Armoooo wrote:One thing that you always hear coming out of the top teams is how important the internal competition for spots is, how it drives them all that little bit harder, I have no doubt that this is the case.
not only is pressure on a lot of spots; the pressure is on the match committee and selectors to get the mix right. to be neither too conservative nor too bold. to make the tough decisions if they need to be made and to introduce new talent at the right time.
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I kept seeing Will and Paul doing their runs along the boundary
and was pleased to see Will go on early in last term-
which still left Paul sitting there in his blue top
almost as an afterthought Chips came of and he got on
all the young guys managed to get a touch or two and even have a part in a forward thrust- Lynch, Johnson and Cahill first games with Gaertner getting a large amount of time on the ground - as did Stanley.
Good work guys.
and was pleased to see Will go on early in last term-
which still left Paul sitting there in his blue top
almost as an afterthought Chips came of and he got on
all the young guys managed to get a touch or two and even have a part in a forward thrust- Lynch, Johnson and Cahill first games with Gaertner getting a large amount of time on the ground - as did Stanley.
Good work guys.
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GrumpyOne wrote:Most of the young guys gave indications that they will be good additions to the team in time.
Possibly one exception - Paul Cahill
I know big guys take longer to mature, but he looked like a deer in the headlights during his brief run.
Last year for him I reckon.
You may be right Grumps but hopefully he can prove us wrong. Problem was he had a crap year in 2009 with injuries and these kids usually only get 2 years to show their worth. There's bound to be pressure for spots at the end of the year and guys like Gaertner and maybe a few others on the rookie list will be adding to that pressure.
But I'll continue to support PC, like everyone else on the list, and just hope he has a better run this year and pulls something out of the bag.
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It was great to watch the young guys in action and smash the opposition.
Stanley is pure excitement.
Armo is on the cusp
Steven is class
McEvoy takes a grab and gets involved (tackles)
Geary looks stronger
In the NAB Cup they have shown they can play "Saints footy".
Young blokes playing Saints footy will always beat young Freo players playing in Melbourne.
Still great to watch
Stanley is pure excitement.
Armo is on the cusp
Steven is class
McEvoy takes a grab and gets involved (tackles)
Geary looks stronger
In the NAB Cup they have shown they can play "Saints footy".
Young blokes playing Saints footy will always beat young Freo players playing in Melbourne.
Still great to watch
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Great to see the young guys playing with a lot of maturity. Gaetner and Lynch almost look ready for a senior game..Stanley is still a year off and needs to build up some strength -he got pushed off the contests a bit too easy, but big blokes take a while -look at McEvoy, he is doing really well and just keep getting better, but Stanley will be a gun in years to come. Armo and Geary played tough and they will be in the seniors.
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Steven is class, but we haven't seen much of him due to injury.Goose is king wrote:It was great to watch the young guys in action and smash the opposition.
Stanley is pure excitement.
Armo is on the cusp
Steven is class
McEvoy takes a grab and gets involved (tackles)
Geary looks stronger
In the NAB Cup they have shown they can play "Saints footy".
Young blokes playing Saints footy will always beat young Freo players playing in Melbourne.
Still great to watch
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It will be the last year for a few players. It always is. Spme may look ok now but during the year a few will struggle and be dropped off the list. Who knows if Cahill will be one of them. It could easily just be someone like Baker.GrumpyOne wrote:Most of the young guys gave indications that they will be good additions to the team in time.
Possibly one exception - Paul Cahill
I know big guys take longer to mature, but he looked like a deer in the headlights during his brief run.
Last year for him I reckon.
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Re: Our Youngsters
This passage of play was the highlight of the night for me. A sneak peak of the future.... very exciting.Armoooo wrote:I can't believe how much I enjoyed watching parts of last nights game, even though it was delayed and had the most terrible coverage.
I just loved seeing McEvoy tap it down to Armitage, who would kick it to a contest that would be crummbed by Lynch who would give it off to Stanley for a goal.
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I believe CAHILL will be OK !
I believe CAHILL will be OK and may even be our next full forward. He was very nervous last night but looked capable. He has a good solid base just needs to get the upper body strength and we will see him come through...GrumpyOne wrote:Most of the young guys gave indications that they will be good additions to the team in time.
Possibly one exception - Paul Cahill
I know big guys take longer to mature, but he looked like a deer in the headlights during his brief run.
Last year for him I reckon.
Isn't it great to see these young guys running around and dont forget Allistair SMITH and Tom SIMPSKIN (currently injured). SIMPKIN has been given big raps also, plays HB and is a hrd as nails...
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Seriously harsh. He had what, five minutesGrumpyOne wrote:Most of the young guys gave indications that they will be good additions to the team in time.
Possibly one exception - Paul Cahill
I know big guys take longer to mature, but he looked like a deer in the headlights during his brief run.
Last year for him I reckon.
Hardly an opportunity.
I thought he presented well.
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Lol, how good is that, we have such a healthy list of youngsters I even managed to forget Smith and Heyne, not a slur against them, they just slipped my mind.
Simpkin on the other hand I know very little of.
Simpkin on the other hand I know very little of.
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Players also play outside of the seniors and it is a chance for us to assess what we think of the way they move, skill, how they attack the ball and so forth. Cahill won't make it - feel free to revisit in time. He's deep outside of our best 30 so probably best to focus on those that will. The one thing this NAB Cup campaign has done is provide some excitement regarding our depth - and depth across most positions too. We have Stanley, Lynch, and possibly Walsh as longer term options up forward. McEvoy continues to show our ruck division won't miss a beat as the vets retire, and we have a number of versatile utilities. I'm looking forward to seeing how Johnson progresses in the scoobs this year, as I think there's something there.
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You're right in that he's at the end of a long queue. he may attract some trade interest down the line? Tall KP types don't grow on trees except apparently at St Kilda...Wigsy wrote:Players also play outside of the seniors and it is a chance for us to assess what we think of the way they move, skill, how they attack the ball and so forth. Cahill won't make it - feel free to revisit in time. He's deep outside of our best 30 so probably best to focus on those that will. The one thing this NAB Cup campaign has done is provide some excitement regarding our depth - and depth across most positions too. We have Stanley, Lynch, and possibly Walsh as longer term options up forward. McEvoy continues to show our ruck division won't miss a beat as the vets retire, and we have a number of versatile utilities. I'm looking forward to seeing how Johnson progresses in the scoobs this year, as I think there's something there.
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GrumpyOne wrote:Most of the young guys gave indications that they will be good additions to the team in time.
Possibly one exception - Paul Cahill
I know big guys take longer to mature, but he looked like a deer in the headlights during his brief run.
Last year for him I reckon.
I reckon thats a poor statement....The bloke got subbed on during the last quarter..... and wasnt it for his first ever game...?
Dropped a mark, but also took two....one in which he presented for well to the kicker in Armitage.
How does one really make that sort of analysis based on next to nothingness....That really amazes me.
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From the moment he was drafted I was never really excited about Cahill but it would surely be too soon to write him off. He has an interesting shape and looks to have pretty good athleticism, he reminds me a bit of Bob Murphy from the doggies in that aspect.
I didn't see nearly enough of him on the weekend to get any sort of 'gut feeling' on how I think he will turn out.
However if he is to make it he would need to play a considerable amount of games for the Sandy seniors, I'm not sure if this is correct but it is my understanding that he spent most of his time in the ressies between injuries.
I didn't see nearly enough of him on the weekend to get any sort of 'gut feeling' on how I think he will turn out.
However if he is to make it he would need to play a considerable amount of games for the Sandy seniors, I'm not sure if this is correct but it is my understanding that he spent most of his time in the ressies between injuries.
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Cahill looks like a skinny John Anthony to me. Lead up player, hopefully can kick as straight!
Consistency is not something that young players have in spades. Alistair Smith intraclub and 2nd NAB Cup games weren't much to write home about but his 1st NAB Cup game was. And thats the one we take away and run with.
Cahill had a bad run with injuries and I saw enough at the Intraclub to think he may be alright with some consistent game time. Sandy seniors here we come!
Consistency is not something that young players have in spades. Alistair Smith intraclub and 2nd NAB Cup games weren't much to write home about but his 1st NAB Cup game was. And thats the one we take away and run with.
Cahill had a bad run with injuries and I saw enough at the Intraclub to think he may be alright with some consistent game time. Sandy seniors here we come!