Gwilt

meher baba · Post: # 886788Post **meher baba** » Sun 28 Feb 2010 3:03pm

FWIW, I thought Gwilt was recruited in the 2004 draft (with McQualter) and is therefore only going into his 6th year. And he missed most of 2006 through injury. So he isn't that experienced.

I think he's struggled to learn how to play for Lyon. I reckon last night was the first time I've seen him truly shine playing the Lyon style of game. It could be a turning point. Here's hoping.

bergsone · Post: # 886795Post **bergsone** » Sun 28 Feb 2010 3:32pm

IMO he will play RD 1 ,if Goodes plays for swans,seems a good matchup especially now that he has experience playing forward and back,which Goodes does.

saintsRrising · Sun 28 Feb 2010 4:35pm

plugger66 wrote:

Gwilt is in his 7th year and not many players all of a sudden improve that late into their career. He will continue to play ok games and the disappointing games. That is why he isnt a regular. Hope I am wrong but just cant think of guys improving that late into their careers. Also it is only a practice match and some form can go up and down in these games especially fringe types.

You are correct not all improve late.

But some do...ie Jason Blake.

Goodes is a big scalp. Maybe it was a one off. Maybe not.
If he can however settle into HB it may free up BJ for elsewhere.

Could well be worth trying him there as HFF does not look his go.

This could be Gwilt's last chance though....

bigred · Post: # 886956Post **bigred** » Sun 28 Feb 2010 10:31pm

However I heard Grant Thomas last year saying he was worth hanging onto for a couple of reasons

Careful, they might hear you....

Legendary · Post: # 886958Post **Legendary** » Sun 28 Feb 2010 10:34pm

Gwilt has certainly been given many opportunities, and Saturday night was the first time he has really really impressed me (not counting his second ever game).

He was a pretty late starter to professional footy, and Jason Blake has shown that you can improve enormously after age 25. I never saw it in Blake and yet he has become one of the best backmen in the best defence in the league.

Good luck to Gwilt, he has plenty of competition ...

Bernard Shakey · Sun 28 Feb 2010 10:39pm

Jimmy is looking very good at the moment.

If he keeps up his intensity, I think many on this site will be pleasantly surprised. Go Jimmy.

Peake is not playing Saints Footy.

stinger · Post: # 886985Post **stinger** » Sun 28 Feb 2010 11:06pm

plugger66 wrote:
Gwilt is in his 7th year and not many players all of a sudden improve that late into their career.

not too good with the old 'rithmetic hey plugga.???....played 5 years...sixth coming up......still only 23 years of age ffs....andrew thompson hadn't played a game until he was 24........mb is spot on...as usual...you as usual are wrong.....

Zed · Post: # 886992Post **Zed** » Sun 28 Feb 2010 11:15pm

I've always thought he was one of our most over-rated players .. and I never would have him in our best 18.

However, Sat nites game against the Swans - he was good, I liked his decision making, and I liked his disposal. Perhaps this is his breakout year. Improvement from players outside our top 18 can only improve our premeirship chances.

plugger66 · Post: # 887002Post **plugger66** » Mon 01 Mar 2010 6:55am

stinger wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Gwilt is in his 7th year and not many players all of a sudden improve that late into their career.

not too good with the old 'rithmetic hey plugga.???....played 5 years...sixth coming up......still only 23 years of age ffs....andrew thompson hadn't played a game until he was 24........mb is spot on...as usual...you as usual are wrong.....

One year out. My point remains. As you said AT was really in the system till then. Completely different to someone in their 6th year. I surprised that you still have the ability to add up. By the way you never told me when AL court case must be hel under law. Is it because you havent got a clue?

Thinline · Post: # 887023Post **Thinline** » Mon 01 Mar 2010 9:55am

Milan Faletic wrote:Gwilt was great and Peake looks the goods. Farren Ray needs to perform mainly because the second year is always the test.

Thought Gwilt went well. Played the sort of game we want to see from him week in week out.

Peake was good? I was surprised to learn he'd actually played. Did he touch it? Maybe his lack of familiarity to me in Saints colours means he doesn't stand out yet.

Ray was serviceable enough and did a couple of EXTREMELY courageous things which I really admired. Schneider too for that matter.

Milney was red hot.

PJ · Post: # 887231Post PJ » Mon 01 Mar 2010 11:01pm

Didn't get to see much of the game but would like to know - Where did Jimmy play? Was it on Goodes all night and if so was a new role for him?

Duggie · Post: # 887316Post **Duggie** » Tue 02 Mar 2010 4:09pm

Why is Jimmy G subject to this sort of cross examination every year--by some ? There is great potential in him and he is showing us more of it every game.

Bernard Shakey · Tue 02 Mar 2010 4:18pm

Gwilt was in cottonwool at training today, only rode the bike up in the rooms.

Solar · Post: # 887320Post **Solar** » Tue 02 Mar 2010 4:21pm

intensity, needs to work harder in defence but the best game for the club since he played on hall a few years ago.

SainterK · Post: # 887409Post **SainterK** » Tue 02 Mar 2010 10:14pm

Bernard Shakey wrote:Gwilt was in cottonwool at training today, only rode the bike up in the rooms.

He did a little bit, just not the running or the warm ups....did do some handballing, and a little kicking. I have a feeling he still may be playing though, just seemed to be amongst it...

stinger · Post: # 887509Post **stinger** » Wed 03 Mar 2010 11:19am

plugger66 wrote:. By the way you never told me when AL court case must be hel under law. Is it because you havent got a clue?

yeah i know...used to be part of the system that lobbied for that sort of accountability on the part of our courts....keep trying though...

stinger · Post: # 887510Post **stinger** » Wed 03 Mar 2010 11:22am

Duggie wrote:Why is Jimmy G subject to this sort of cross examination every year--by some ? There is great potential in him and he is showing us more of it every game.

i agree....he appears to be our new kicking boy.....i couldn't see why pple were specifying him to be dropped for the second nab game...and said so...raph's not playing and we need a fall guy.....only problem ...he played well....

saintsRrising · Wed 03 Mar 2010 8:57pm

Bernard Shakey wrote:Gwilt was in cottonwool at training today, only rode the bike up in the rooms.

Might be sore from all those knees he copped in the back from Goodes.

Dr Spaceman · Wed 03 Mar 2010 9:26pm

I personally think Gwilt has a lot to offer as a HFF but is let down by his personality. If he was a vain, cocky tossbag like, say, Dermott Brereton he could really be anything up there. However he seems like a fairly quiet, modest chap and it just seems he doesn't want to get in the way of Roo & Kosi, or at least doesnâ€™t demand the ball because of those guys. Of course thatâ€™s not helped by team mates seeking out Roo & Kosi as they bring the ball in.

In the backline he doesn't have to worry about that, only minding his opponent. So short of getting him to to a hypnotherapist, I think that's where he's destined to play his best footy.

starsign · Post: # 887696Post **starsign** » Wed 03 Mar 2010 9:51pm

Dr Spaceman wrote:I personally think Gwilt has a lot to offer as a HFF but is let down by his personality. If he was a vain, cocky tossbag like, say, Dermott Brereton he could really be anything up there. However he seems like a fairly quiet, modest chap and it just seems he doesn't want to get in the way of Roo & Kosi, or at least doesnâ€™t demand the ball because of those guys. Of course thatâ€™s not helped by team mates seeking out Roo & Kosi as they bring the ball in.

In the backline he doesn't have to worry about that, only minding his opponent. So short of getting him to to a hypnotherapist, I think that's where he's destined to play his best footy.

mm... perhaps your right...and his penetrating disposal at speed from HB is a plus as well .... good call!!

saint66au · Post: # 887698Post **saint66au** » Wed 03 Mar 2010 9:53pm

Just needs some consistancy.

Played one great game in the Adelaide final in 2005..strung a couple together when asked to pinch-hit at FB in 2008...and now has played a very good NAB game in 2010. In this respect he's similar to Raph ( thats not a criticism, Raph has had injury worries also pretty mugh right through his careeer) and looks like being slotted into a similar role.

My only slight concern is that he's yet another left-footer coming out of defence. Great if he's balanced and on the preferred, but like Gilbo seems hesitant to try the right foot, preferrig to take that lil bet extra time to get onto his left....which can be fatal defending 50m from goal

kosifantutti23 · Wed 03 Mar 2010 9:56pm

Legendary wrote: He was a pretty late starter to professional footy, ..

Played his first game of AFL two weeks after his 19th birthday. Most Saints recruits don't get a sniff that early.

He didn't play TAC but that's not really professional footy.

Bernard Shakey · Wed 03 Mar 2010 10:21pm

saintsRrising wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:Gwilt was in cottonwool at training today, only rode the bike up in the rooms.
Might be sore from all those knees he copped in the back from Goodes.

He did nothing at training last week either, I'm told.

spert · Post: # 887731Post **spert** » Thu 04 Mar 2010 9:21am

All I have to say to RL is -let Gwilt settle in one bloody position (not the backline) and stop trying to use him as a stop-gap all over the ground. Park him on a HFF or in the middle where his disposal, especially by foot will be invaluable, and he will be a good contributor for us..no star, but effective.

plugger66 · Post: # 887766Post **plugger66** » Thu 04 Mar 2010 12:58pm

spert wrote:All I have to say to RL is -let Gwilt settle in one bloody position (not the backline) and stop trying to use him as a stop-gap all over the ground. Park him on a HFF or in the middle where his disposal, especially by foot will be invaluable, and he will be a good contributor for us..no star, but effective.

You are joking about the middle arent you?