Lovett payout
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Lovett payout
Sorry this may be in another thread but this forum tends to digress into individuals bickering and threads being hijacked from original means.
I just wanted to say that there is a chance that Lovett could win his case against the Saints even if he gets convicted of his charge.
My personal view is that the club made the correct decision from a football point of view and I am prepared to kick in 50 bucks on top of my membership should we be forking out a million bucks to Lovett.
Saying that, if this scenario occurs and we do have to pay, Mr. Lovett would not want to meet me in the street as I would be demanding he pays me back with interest for his failure to meet some basic conditions of employment!!
I just wanted to say that there is a chance that Lovett could win his case against the Saints even if he gets convicted of his charge.
My personal view is that the club made the correct decision from a football point of view and I am prepared to kick in 50 bucks on top of my membership should we be forking out a million bucks to Lovett.
Saying that, if this scenario occurs and we do have to pay, Mr. Lovett would not want to meet me in the street as I would be demanding he pays me back with interest for his failure to meet some basic conditions of employment!!
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The payout will be counted against the club's salary cap.
Lovett remains a listed St Kilda player until List Lodgement No1 at the end of October 2010.
Lovett remains a listed St Kilda player until List Lodgement No1 at the end of October 2010.
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I would expect that St Kilda will delist him at list lodgement no 1.GrumpyOne wrote:Do you think it is likely that the action will be settled by then?ace wrote:The payout will be counted against the club's salary cap.
Lovett remains a listed St Kilda player until List Lodgement No1 at the end of October 2010.
What is the scenario if the judgement is made in 2011 or 2012?
If he is found guilty, it would be hard for him to claim he had not breached his contract - doesn't get paid, doesn't hurt the salary cap.
If he is found NOT guilty, then I would think St Kilda would struggle to prove that they sacked him for other than the charges against him.
In that case he would be delisted, St Kilda would have to pay him out against the salary cap.
Then maybe Collingwood or Carlton may take a risk on recruiting him under a very strict contract.
By strict I mean - any adverse publicity of any kind and you can be sacked without payout and without right of appeal.
If no other club takes him up, Lovett would have a strong case for further compensation beyond his initial contract with St Kilda.
But that would not count against the salary cap but against the club's budget.
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Thanks Ace.ace wrote:I would expect that St Kilda will delist him at list lodgement no 1.GrumpyOne wrote:Do you think it is likely that the action will be settled by then?ace wrote:The payout will be counted against the club's salary cap.
Lovett remains a listed St Kilda player until List Lodgement No1 at the end of October 2010.
What is the scenario if the judgement is made in 2011 or 2012?
If he is found guilty, it would be hard for him to claim he had not breached his contract - doesn't get paid, doesn't hurt the salary cap.
If he is found NOT guilty, then I would think St Kilda would struggle to prove that they sacked him for other than the charges against him.
In that case he would be delisted, St Kilda would have to pay him out against the salary cap.
Then maybe Collingwood or Carlton may take a risk on recruiting him under a very strict contract.
By strict I mean - any adverse publicity of any kind and you can be sacked without payout and without right of appeal.
If no other club takes him up, Lovett would have a strong case for further compensation beyond his initial contract with St Kilda.
But that would not count against the salary cap but against the club's budget.
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It will be interesting to watch the outcomes, last night on the news in Perth they were saying he may be coming over here to play in the WAFL.
I doubt he will go to Carlton or Collingwood, he was under the same strict guidelines for us and apprently did not follow thorugh why would he behave somewhere else.
I still beleive he is innocent until proven guilty so am hoping the club have other reasons we don't know about for letting him go
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I doubt he will go to Carlton or Collingwood, he was under the same strict guidelines for us and apprently did not follow thorugh why would he behave somewhere else.
I still beleive he is innocent until proven guilty so am hoping the club have other reasons we don't know about for letting him go
Michele
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If you didn't get a chance, have a read of the age's article and it's supposed leaks of reasons for sacking. I think if true, the club will have a good case to justify his sacking, court case aside.St Michele wrote:It will be interesting to watch the outcomes, last night on the news in Perth they were saying he may be coming over here to play in the WAFL.
I doubt he will go to Carlton or Collingwood, he was under the same strict guidelines for us and apprently did not follow thorugh why would he behave somewhere else.
I still beleive he is innocent until proven guilty so am hoping the club have other reasons we don't know about for letting him go
Michele
Perhaps, but the Club would have to explain why when all those reasons were present before December 24, he wasn't sacked prior to that.SainterK wrote:If you didn't get a chance, have a read of the age's article and it's supposed leaks of reasons for sacking. I think if true, the club will have a good case to justify his sacking, court case aside.St Michele wrote:It will be interesting to watch the outcomes, last night on the news in Perth they were saying he may be coming over here to play in the WAFL.
I doubt he will go to Carlton or Collingwood, he was under the same strict guidelines for us and apprently did not follow thorugh why would he behave somewhere else.
I still beleive he is innocent until proven guilty so am hoping the club have other reasons we don't know about for letting him go
Michele
St Michele wrote:It will be interesting to watch the outcomes, last night on the news in Perth they were saying he may be coming over here to play in the WAFL.
I doubt he will go to Carlton or Collingwood, he was under the same strict guidelines for us and apprently did not follow thorugh why would he behave somewhere else.
I still beleive he is innocent until proven guilty so am hoping the club have other reasons we don't know about for letting him go
Michele
he won't be leaving the state without the court's permission i would think.......
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Frankston is the best bet, but the way they are going, he'll only get paid in IOUs.stinger wrote:St Michele wrote:It will be interesting to watch the outcomes, last night on the news in Perth they were saying he may be coming over here to play in the WAFL.
I doubt he will go to Carlton or Collingwood, he was under the same strict guidelines for us and apprently did not follow thorugh why would he behave somewhere else.
I still beleive he is innocent until proven guilty so am hoping the club have other reasons we don't know about for letting him go
Michele
he won't be leaving the state without the court's permission i would think.......
Should make Frankston vs Sandy matches interesting
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I think where Lovett will play now is the least of his worries, if he is found guilty he wont be playing football anywhere.
With the ridiculousness spouted by his lawyers I might decide to sue Mr Lovett on the grounds that he got my hopes up and made me sad
BANG BANG
With the ridiculousness spouted by his lawyers I might decide to sue Mr Lovett on the grounds that he got my hopes up and made me sad
BANG BANG
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Is that a Breach of Promise action?Hurricane wrote:I think where Lovett will play now is the least of his worries, if he is found guilty he wont be playing football anywhere.
With the ridiculousness spouted by his lawyers I might decide to sue Mr Lovett on the grounds that he got my hopes up and made me sad
BANG BANG
Post of the year.GrumpyOne wrote:Is that a Breach of Promise action?Hurricane wrote:I think where Lovett will play now is the least of his worries, if he is found guilty he wont be playing football anywhere.
With the ridiculousness spouted by his lawyers I might decide to sue Mr Lovett on the grounds that he got my hopes up and made me sad
BANG BANG
All members and supporters should put in a class action against him for allegedly being a knob.