Make or Break - Jason Gram

skeptic · Post: # 869404Post **skeptic** » Sat 02 Jan 2010 12:15pm

i guess the term make or break may not have been the most appropriate to use.

All i meant was that we'd find out this year whether Gram will be an excellent player for us or just an ok player

When he first got to the club and over the last 2-3 years, you couldn't read a training report without hearing about Gram burning it up. To me, it doesn't seem the same this year.
And his performances in games, certain aspects like contesting the ball 1:1, accountability etc have dropped off big time.

CeilidhSaint · Sat 02 Jan 2010 6:34pm

Is this the same J Gram who came 2nd or 3rd in our B&F in 2008? Wasn't great this year but a great performance in a GF says a lot in my eyes and you don't come top 3 in B&F by being a donkey.
Skeptic I think you are being a bit sceptical!

stinger · Post: # 869442Post **stinger** » Sat 02 Jan 2010 7:12pm

top three in the best and fairest....bog for us in a grannie......says it all really.....the guy has already arrived.....

Enrico_Misso · Sat 02 Jan 2010 9:01pm

He needs to get back that long precision kicking that was his trademark 2 or 3 years ago.
In 2009 he was no longer kicking goals from outside 50.
In 2009 he was no longer delivering long pinpoint accurate passes to forward targets.

Get that long accurate kicking dimension back and he becomes one of our key players.

Winmar7Fan · Sat 02 Jan 2010 10:43pm

He needs to learn to take the ball from half back, run and carry flat out and send a 60 metre kick to full forward and hit Roo on the chest.

plugger66 · Post: # 869469Post **plugger66** » Sat 02 Jan 2010 11:37pm

Winmar7Fan wrote:He needs to learn to take the ball from half back, run and carry flat out and send a 60 metre kick to full forward and hit Roo on the chest.

Then run back to the centre, take the hit out, rove the ball and then drill a goal from 70 out.

SydneySainter · Sun 03 Jan 2010 2:59pm

CeilidhSaint wrote:Wasn't great this year but a great performance in a GF says a lot in my eyes and you don't come top 3 in B&F by being a donkey.

Don't know, if Rhyce Shaw can come 2nd in the Swans B&F...

stinger · Post: # 869586Post **stinger** » Sun 03 Jan 2010 10:43pm

SydneySainter wrote:
CeilidhSaint wrote:Wasn't great this year but a great performance in a GF says a lot in my eyes and you don't come top 3 in B&F by being a donkey.
Don't know, if Rhyce Shaw can come 2nd in the Swans B&F...

CeilidhSaint · Mon 04 Jan 2010 8:40pm

Re Rhyce, does his role, gets rewarded.
That's why J Blake always does well in our B&F's.

skeptic · Post: # 869982Post **skeptic** » Wed 06 Jan 2010 12:18pm

i guess i'll have to concede this argument... i'm clearly in the minority here

i guess if people are happy with Gram being a medium to average player throughout his career and playing 1-2 excellent games a season of his GF performance calibre then so be it.
Me, i think he has the potential to be an excellent player... maybe not elite but some1 who can regularly cut opponents apart.

As a player last year, i put him in the same category as say Farren Ray. Played a few good games, a lot of medium ones and few ineffective ones... this is not a dig a Farren but he's much much better than that.