Could we play 2 "Riewoldts"?

saintjake · Post: # 857192Post **saintjake** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 10:40pm

in theory, Gilbert (NOW IM NOT SAYING HE IS ROO, OR ANYWHERE NEAR HIS LEVEL!)
but i think he is one cm taller then roo
and can run like lighting,
fair endurance and a reasonable mark,
so my question is, could we play Gilbert and Roo in similar roles?
opposition defenders would blow up
look at the grand final for example, Roo played the whole game (?)
but Taylor Mackie and even Harley all had to rotate on him because he run them ragged
would another Roo work?

*the off season has got to me*

SainterK · Post: # 857197Post **SainterK** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 11:01pm

Gilbert played up forward through this years pre-season comp, so the idea is not a foreign one to the club...however, he is so brilliant where he is

bobmurray · Post: # 857224Post **bobmurray** » Wed 11 Nov 2009 12:07am

I think Gilbert has already proven to all that he's a Defender ...not a Forward...

Milan Faletic · Wed 11 Nov 2009 12:34am

mmmmm......interesting question

yes.......interesting...............mmmmmm

Foz · Post: # 857234Post **Foz** » Wed 11 Nov 2009 12:40am

Didn't Goose tell a younger Gilbert he can't have his spot at CHB because of his 'spaghetti arms' ? I can't wait to see how Gilbo turns out with an off season of weights under his belt. Think he might also be the defender instead of the forward but stranger things have happened.

bigcarl · Post: # 857239Post **bigcarl** » Wed 11 Nov 2009 12:47am

not a bad idea, though you'd lose a bit in defence. we might be looking at rhys stanley in that role, or tommy walsh.

we certainly could have done with another tallish option during the finals.

http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... anley+pace

BackFromUSA wrote:Word is Rhys Stanley will be groomed to become our next Centre Half Forward for when Roo retires. He has all the physical and mental attributes to make it. He might become our third tall forward this year (what a difficult match up he would make) and has the pace, aerobic capacity and defensive pressure to play to our game plan. If not playimg seniors expect to see him playing Centre Half Forward for Sandringham.

I have been a big fan since day 1 when we picked him ... take a look on YouTube of his running down little blokes in the forward half. Excellent skills below his knees and a good kick. He will be a nightmare match up as a 3rd tall with his pace, tackling, marking, quick hands and kicking. Could be a match winning move and an x factor for 2010.

Milan Faletic · Wed 11 Nov 2009 12:59am

bigcarl wrote:not a bad idea, though you'd lose a bit in defence. we might be looking at rhys stanley in that role, or tommy walsh.

we certainly could have done with another tallish option during the finals.

http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... anley+pace

BackFromUSA wrote:Word is Rhys Stanley will be groomed to become our next Centre Half Forward for when Roo retires. He has all the physical and mental attributes to make it. He might become our third tall forward this year (what a difficult match up he would make) and has the pace, aerobic capacity and defensive pressure to play to our game plan. If not playimg seniors expect to see him playing Centre Half Forward for Sandringham.

I have been a big fan since day 1 when we picked him ... take a look on YouTube of his running down little blokes in the forward half. Excellent skills below his knees and a good kick. He will be a nightmare match up as a 3rd tall with his pace, tackling, marking, quick hands and kicking. Could be a match winning move and an x factor for 2010.

I agree with this post wholeheartedly. Walsh and Stanley for mine. And don't forget McEvoy.

awesome_days · Wed 11 Nov 2009 5:17am

Goddard anyone....

Let others take on the "quarter-back" role - Sam Fisher, Sam Gilbert, Raph Clarke & Farren Ray

bigcarl · Post: # 857272Post **bigcarl** » Wed 11 Nov 2009 7:30am

awesome_days wrote:Goddard anyone....

Let others take on the "quarter-back" role - Sam Fisher, Sam Gilbert, Raph Clarke & Farren Ray

that's not a bad idea either, though he is very effective doing what he's doing and gives us an edge on the ball.

plugger66 · Post: # 857273Post **plugger66** » Wed 11 Nov 2009 7:38am

Gilbert isnt going forward and neither is Stanley. Walsh hasnt even played the game. We will try a few there over preseason but none of those mentioned have a hope in the first half of the year at least and for the whole year I would imagine. Im not sure if people have forgotton Lynch or even another small forward like Steven or resting BJ there occasionly.

bigcarl · Post: # 857278Post **bigcarl** » Wed 11 Nov 2009 8:20am

plugger66 wrote:Gilbert isnt going forward and neither is Stanley. Walsh hasnt even played the game. We will try a few there over preseason but none of those mentioned have a hope in the first half of the year at least and for the whole year I would imagine. Im not sure if people have forgotton Lynch or even another small forward like Steven or resting BJ there occasionly.

i heard it on good authority that stanley is being considered

ace · Post: # 857337Post **ace** » Wed 11 Nov 2009 11:05am

bigcarl wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Gilbert isnt going forward and neither is Stanley. Walsh hasnt even played the game. We will try a few there over preseason but none of those mentioned have a hope in the first half of the year at least and for the whole year I would imagine. Im not sure if people have forgotton Lynch or even another small forward like Steven or resting BJ there occasionly.
i heard it on good authority that stanley is being considered

i heard it on good authority that Ross Lyon will consider all players based on merit.

borderbarry · Wed 11 Nov 2009 11:06am

I would like to think the Saints can take advantage of Stanley's speed and height somehow.

bigcarl · Post: # 857343Post **bigcarl** » Wed 11 Nov 2009 11:18am

ace wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Gilbert isnt going forward and neither is Stanley. Walsh hasnt even played the game. We will try a few there over preseason but none of those mentioned have a hope in the first half of the year at least and for the whole year I would imagine. Im not sure if people have forgotton Lynch or even another small forward like Steven or resting BJ there occasionly.
i heard it on good authority that stanley is being considered
i heard it on good authority that Ross Lyon will consider all players based on merit.

no doubt. wouldn't have it any other way.

aussiejones · Wed 11 Nov 2009 11:33am

We need to do something ... Some good thoughts ..I am sure Ross is on to it or the Forward coach

plugger66 · Post: # 857474Post **plugger66** » Wed 11 Nov 2009 4:54pm

bigcarl wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Gilbert isnt going forward and neither is Stanley. Walsh hasnt even played the game. We will try a few there over preseason but none of those mentioned have a hope in the first half of the year at least and for the whole year I would imagine. Im not sure if people have forgotton Lynch or even another small forward like Steven or resting BJ there occasionly.
i heard it on good authority that stanley is being considered

Is that from the same guy who said he had the saints draw before it even came out in the papers. Pretty sure he got about 3 correct.

Armoooo · Post: # 857482Post **Armoooo** » Wed 11 Nov 2009 5:07pm

Could we play 2 Riewoldts? yes.
Do we have two Riewoldts? unfortunately not.

Riewoldt is a very very rare player, and we're unlikely to ever get another player like him, let alone have one already on our list.

Gilbert - Was tried up forward and whilst he looked ok he is an AA quality back flanker, I would not want to move him.

Goddard - He is a jack of all trades and I would like to see him spend periods in the forward line when our structure isn't working, but I would like to see him spend most of his time in the middle.

Stanley - He is a ruckman.

McEvoy - In my eyes he is a Josh Fraser type player (hopefully he'll turn out better) he will be able to rotate between the forward line and ruck and do adequately in both positions without ever starring in them.

Whilst it would be great to have another Riewoldt, unfortunately it's just not possible.

Players that have his speed, athleticism and height are unable to have his strength.
Players that have his strengh are unable to be mobile enough.

The only player on our list that has the attributes to become another Riewoldt is Walsh but I wouldn't be holding my breathe on him becoming our saviour, even though he is a very exciting prospect.

Rather than trying to focus on obtaining another Riewoldt, I think we need to focus on ways to compliment him. The one position that is simply crying out is the third tall forward. He needs to be able to win the ball in the air, on the ground, kick goals and hurt people... we've tried Gwilt and whilst at times he looked good, he just couldn't produce enough, often enough. Our great white hope has to be Tom Lynch, he could be exactly what we need so let's hope he has a big pre season.

bigcarl · Post: # 857502Post **bigcarl** » Wed 11 Nov 2009 5:28pm

plugger66 wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Gilbert isnt going forward and neither is Stanley. Walsh hasnt even played the game. We will try a few there over preseason but none of those mentioned have a hope in the first half of the year at least and for the whole year I would imagine. Im not sure if people have forgotton Lynch or even another small forward like Steven or resting BJ there occasionly.
i heard it on good authority that stanley is being considered
Is that from the same guy who said he had the saints draw before it even came out in the papers. Pretty sure he got about 3 correct.

the guy who said this:

http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... anley+pace

Stanley as a third forward is definitely in the mix for 2010 - I am not speculating. Besides pace he has the best endurance at the club amongst all talls ... better than Roo. He is graded a better athlete than Roo. I repeat ... a better athlete than Roo

Milan Faletic · Thu 12 Nov 2009 2:03am

Bottom line is that we have a great list and we have already added depth to it before the draft.

Option, options, options. We have a lot to choose from. We also have players with versatility and the ability to play at both ends of the ground. Our coaching staff will develop players to be utilities and play back and forward. I am excited about our list.