Character: Dal Santo and Milne v Ball

joffaboy · Post: # 856947Post **joffaboy** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 2:31pm

Fair Point or different circumstances?

yipper · Post: # 856950Post **yipper** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 2:34pm

That is an interesting question. Both players got the exact same kick up the cliber that Bally got, yet the responses have been quite significantly different!! That Dal totally knuckled down and worked harder to regain his elite status in 2009 was just a fantastic statement from the young man. So to Milne, he worked just as hard - possibly even harder than Dal, and although again disappointing in the finals, he was a true star for us. Ball?? well he decides he can't get a game with us and leaves!!!

Milton66 · Post: # 856951Post **Milton66** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 2:36pm

Different players IMO.

I'd probably compare / contrast Ball with Aussie Jones.

markp · Post: # 856953Post **markp** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 2:37pm

Ironically it's the response many predicted would come from Dal, and so few from Ball.

Milton66 · Post: # 856954Post **Milton66** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 2:37pm

markp wrote:Ironically it's the response many predicted would come from Dal, and so few from Ball.

true

Spinner · Post: # 856968Post **Spinner** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 2:51pm

markp wrote:Ironically it's the response many predicted would come from Dal, and so few from Ball.

Yep.

Too much pride perhaps might be the difference?

markp · Post: # 856975Post **markp** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 2:56pm

It's GT's fault.

Armoooo · Post: # 856976Post **Armoooo** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 2:56pm

markp wrote:Ironically it's the response many predicted would come from Dal, and so few from Ball.

Must admit I definitely fall into this category, I can't believe it's panned out this way...

joffaboy · Post: # 856978Post **joffaboy** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 2:58pm

Armoooo wrote:
markp wrote:Ironically it's the response many predicted would come from Dal, and so few from Ball.
Must admit I definitely fall into this category, I can't believe it's panned out this way...

Well does this mean we have been spun a yarn by the Ball camp about his "character"???

plugger66 · Post: # 856980Post **plugger66** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 3:01pm

joffaboy wrote:
Armoooo wrote:
markp wrote:Ironically it's the response many predicted would come from Dal, and so few from Ball.
Must admit I definitely fall into this category, I can't believe it's panned out this way...
Well does this mean we have been spun a yarn by the Ball camp about his "character"???

No I think it means he was worried about being good enough to get a game next season.

sainterjo · Post: # 856982Post **sainterjo** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 3:05pm

[quote="yipper"]That is an interesting question. Both players got the exact same kick up the cliber that Bally got, yet the responses have been quite significantly different!! quote]

It's Khyber. Khyber Pass.

I wished he'd been kicked much harder .

Eastern · Post: # 856986Post **Eastern** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 3:10pm

sainterjo wrote:
yipper wrote:That is an interesting question. Both players got the exact same kick up the cliber that Bally got, yet the responses have been quite significantly different!! quote]

It's Khyber. Khyber Pass.

I wished he'd been kicked much harder .

It's cliber in Gippsland. And don't you forget it

!!

joffaboy · Post: # 856989Post **joffaboy** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 3:13pm

plugger66 wrote:
joffaboy wrote:
Armoooo wrote:
markp wrote:Ironically it's the response many predicted would come from Dal, and so few from Ball.
Must admit I definitely fall into this category, I can't believe it's panned out this way...
Well does this mean we have been spun a yarn by the Ball camp about his "character"???
No I think it means he was worried about being good enough to get a game next season.

So when RL said to him face to face that Rl believed him to be in the first 22, he didn't believe him?

samoht · Post: # 856991Post **samoht** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 3:15pm

joffaboy wrote: So when RL said to him face to face that Rl believed him to be in the first 22, he didn't believe him?

$adly not, $o it $eem$

yipper · Post: # 856992Post **yipper** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 3:16pm

Eastern wrote:
sainterjo wrote:
yipper wrote:That is an interesting question. Both players got the exact same kick up the cliber that Bally got, yet the responses have been quite significantly different!! quote]

It's Khyber. Khyber Pass.

I wished he'd been kicked much harder .
It's cliber in Gippsland. And don't you forget it !!

Ok,ok. We country folk don spill to gooden!!! I was typing fast and couldn't remember the word I wanted. So I invented one - like good country folk do!!!

plugger66 · Post: # 856994Post **plugger66** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 3:20pm

joffaboy wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
joffaboy wrote:
Armoooo wrote:
markp wrote:Ironically it's the response many predicted would come from Dal, and so few from Ball.
Must admit I definitely fall into this category, I can't believe it's panned out this way...
Well does this mean we have been spun a yarn by the Ball camp about his "character"???
No I think it means he was worried about being good enough to get a game next season.
So when RL said to him face to face that Rl believed him to be in the first 22, he didn't believe him?

Dont know and also dont know he actually said those words.

Eastern · Post: # 856995Post **Eastern** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 3:22pm

Now, my memory might be fading in my old age but I seem to recall that Vodafone were not happy with St Kilda a few years ago because they were one of our major sponsors whilst Luke Ball goes off and gets himself a "personal" deal with Telstra. Can someone with a better memory than I let us know exactly what hapened back then !!

Top4King · Post: # 857013Post **Top4King** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 3:36pm

joffaboy wrote:Fair Point or different circumstances?

different individuals. NDS is actually a top bloke! Milney I will never understand lol. Bally is an arrogant blue arsed fly.

samoht · Post: # 857019Post **samoht** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 3:48pm

Top4King wrote:
different individuals. NDS is actually a top bloke! Milney I will never understand lol. Bally is an arrogant blue arsed fly.

I remember seeing him sitting drinking with another Saint player in Tassy
a few years ago and Ball's body language appeared to be why is this saint player trying to make conversation with me ? - he looked aloof and disinterested in engaging in converastion, just nodding or making one word responses - almost to the point of being rude if you asked me.

I sensed some arrogance - "I'm better than you, have a higher HSC score to prove it " air about him.

saintbrat · Post: # 857022Post **saintbrat** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 3:51pm

not really about character- about choices...

plugger66 · Post: # 857040Post **plugger66** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 4:23pm

samoht wrote:
Top4King wrote:
different individuals. NDS is actually a top bloke! Milney I will never understand lol. Bally is an arrogant blue arsed fly.
I remember seeing him sitting drinking with another Saint player in Tassy
a few years ago and Ball's body language appeared to be why is this saint player trying to make conversation with me ? - he looked aloof and disinterested in engaging in converastion, just nodding or making one word responses - almost to the point of being rude if you asked me.

I sensed some arrogance - "I'm better than you, have a higher HSC score to prove it " air about him.

I saw him GF night which was only 6 weeks ago and he looked as disappointed as every other player. I have seen him many times and he is far from aloof. Ask and Saints player even after today and they will say he is a top bloke. Unlike supporters players dont take these sort of things personally because unlike us their passion usually only lasts as long as they are at the club.

joffaboy · Post: # 857050Post **joffaboy** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 4:49pm

plugger66 wrote: Ask and Saints player even after today and they will say he is a top bloke. Unlike supporters players dont take these sort of things personally because unlike us their passion usually only lasts as long as their pay cheque lasts.

Edited for accuracy.

spert · Post: # 857096Post **spert** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 5:28pm

Simple -under RL, you want a game, you tick all the boxes he wants, or go away and fix the problem and prove that you are ready via the VFL. If that's an issue with a player then your time under RL will be limited and nothing will be guaranteed. Ball would not get a game with any other top four team due his foot skill deficiencies alone, though he will slot into a lesser team who may be looking for a bit of toughness and experience..a Melbourne maybe, though clearly Collingwood need someone like Ball as they are deficient in the intelligence area.

satchmo · Post: # 857124Post **satchmo** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 7:14pm

plugger66 wrote:
joffaboy wrote:
Armoooo wrote:
markp wrote:Ironically it's the response many predicted would come from Dal, and so few from Ball.
Must admit I definitely fall into this category, I can't believe it's panned out this way...
Well does this mean we have been spun a yarn by the Ball camp about his "character"???
No I think it means he was worried about being good enough to get a game next season.

So worried that he expects someone to pay 500k ?

saint1974 · Post: # 857125Post **saint1974** » Tue 10 Nov 2009 7:26pm

Lockett Everitt Hall Ball great players no chatacter.

Milne Dal Santo great players character Strenghth Through Loyalty!

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