Ballarat's All Time Best. Western Highway Saints.
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Ballarat's All Time Best. Western Highway Saints.
As promised, the best Saints from Ballarat. As with the previous criteria, each has been chosen as close to the position they actually played. Some real gems here! This can run its course for a week or so then I will finalise after feedback. The only possible challenges might come from some recent players, who may have spent time at Ballarat before joining the TAC etc, or recycleds who started out somewhere near the banks of Lake Wendouree.
This one was fun to put together, and ah, that centreline actually hit the paddock in that exact arrangement a number of times.
By my estimates there are no current playing Ballarat Saints, so I guess it will be a happy day for the faithful when we continue our historical connection to this fantastic footballing city!
Apologies to Sebastopolians and perhaps a couple of players from Beaufort (Gary Lofts and Dean Chiron from memory) but this is strictly a Ballarat line up!
Comments folks!
Listed are player names, years played and original club from Ballarat.
BP Jamie Lamb, 86 - 90, East Ballarat
FB Danny Frawley, 84 - 95, East Ballarat
BP Jeff Dunne, 77 - 83, Nth Ballarat
HBF Dan Feehan, 04 - 10, Sth Ballarat
CHB Val Perovic, 73 - 79, Redan
HBF Russell Tweeddale, 77 - 81, Redan
W Geoff Cunningham, 77 - 89, Golden Point
C Greg Burns , 78 - 89, North Ballarat
W Darryl Cunningham, 83 - 86, Golden Point
HFF Robbie Muir, 74 - 84, Ballarat
CHF George Morrisey, 07 - 13, Redan
HFF Brian Gleeson, 53 - 57, St.Pats (via Berrigan)
FP Charles Baker, 02 - 06, Sth Ballarat
FF Tony Lockett, 83 - 94, Nth Ballarat
FP Sean Simpson, 88 - 90, East Ballarat
RR Greg Packham, 82- 83, Redan
Paul Dodd, 56 - 62, East Ballarat
R Rick Sutherland, 1981, Nth Ballarat
IC Eric Clarke, 80, Ballarat,
Jim Stephenson, 56, Ballarat
Bobby Donald, 14 - 15, Golden Point
William Stevens, 30 - 31, Ballarat
Apologies to: Allan Jenkin, 86, Nth Ballarat, Arthur Leach, 20, Sth Ballarat, Ian Gordan, 57, Golden Point, Alex Cuthbertson, Paul Armstrong and Rod Gladman.
Enjoy!
This one was fun to put together, and ah, that centreline actually hit the paddock in that exact arrangement a number of times.
By my estimates there are no current playing Ballarat Saints, so I guess it will be a happy day for the faithful when we continue our historical connection to this fantastic footballing city!
Apologies to Sebastopolians and perhaps a couple of players from Beaufort (Gary Lofts and Dean Chiron from memory) but this is strictly a Ballarat line up!
Comments folks!
Listed are player names, years played and original club from Ballarat.
BP Jamie Lamb, 86 - 90, East Ballarat
FB Danny Frawley, 84 - 95, East Ballarat
BP Jeff Dunne, 77 - 83, Nth Ballarat
HBF Dan Feehan, 04 - 10, Sth Ballarat
CHB Val Perovic, 73 - 79, Redan
HBF Russell Tweeddale, 77 - 81, Redan
W Geoff Cunningham, 77 - 89, Golden Point
C Greg Burns , 78 - 89, North Ballarat
W Darryl Cunningham, 83 - 86, Golden Point
HFF Robbie Muir, 74 - 84, Ballarat
CHF George Morrisey, 07 - 13, Redan
HFF Brian Gleeson, 53 - 57, St.Pats (via Berrigan)
FP Charles Baker, 02 - 06, Sth Ballarat
FF Tony Lockett, 83 - 94, Nth Ballarat
FP Sean Simpson, 88 - 90, East Ballarat
RR Greg Packham, 82- 83, Redan
Paul Dodd, 56 - 62, East Ballarat
R Rick Sutherland, 1981, Nth Ballarat
IC Eric Clarke, 80, Ballarat,
Jim Stephenson, 56, Ballarat
Bobby Donald, 14 - 15, Golden Point
William Stevens, 30 - 31, Ballarat
Apologies to: Allan Jenkin, 86, Nth Ballarat, Arthur Leach, 20, Sth Ballarat, Ian Gordan, 57, Golden Point, Alex Cuthbertson, Paul Armstrong and Rod Gladman.
Enjoy!
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question: how does Best and Fairest winner from 1982 Peter Kiel Rate amongst that group?
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answer... a bad error on my behalf! Peter Kiel will definitely make the final cut.saintbrat wrote:question: how does Best and Fairest winner from 1982 Peter Kiel Rate amongst that group?
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Keep them coming if Ive missed any others.
Cool, though Bud was from Castlemaine then went to Redan to coach after his run with the red white and black. Ian Baker, yep I picked him up along with Chris Bant from 19o7 19o8, Gellie will undoubtedly make the final cut... as coach.kosifantutti23 wrote:Bud Annand
Ian Baker
Graham Gellie all from Redan
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Later yes, but came from Leitchville originally.Eastern wrote:Did Jeff Fehring play up there before he came to the saints? He definately played up there after his VFL career !!
As for Scott, Malthouse et al above, great work, theyll all make hot competition for what should be a brilliant team. Keep them coming, I thought Id fine toothed this beast but great to hear of some of these that I have missed as they were fine players. There will be some final selection controversies, no doubt.
John 'swooper' Northey could go in as coach. Coached Redan to a number of flags and then went on to coach (and play) the Saints Reserves.
Phillip Walsh also came from Redan about the same time as Northey in the early 80's.
Gerard Cahir and Malcolm Scott might have tried out as well, not sure if they cracked it in the big time though.
Phillip Walsh also came from Redan about the same time as Northey in the early 80's.
Gerard Cahir and Malcolm Scott might have tried out as well, not sure if they cracked it in the big time though.
Nice work Crow Jelly, so in the final mix it might be Swooper v Gellie. I think Graham Gellie might get up..maybe Swooper gets an Assistant Role!crowjelly wrote:John 'swooper' Northey could go in as coach. Coached Redan to a number of flags and then went on to coach (and play) the Saints Reserves.
Phillip Walsh also came from Redan about the same time as Northey in the early 80's.
Gerard Cahir and Malcolm Scott might have tried out as well, not sure if they cracked it in the big time though.
You can break the news to Swooper - he's still as feisty as ever. I hear he finally realised that umpires can pay free kicks for umpire abuse from the boundary!
I also hear the Graeme Gellie is doing well in Colac running a fitness centre. He's still in good shape apart from the knee that cut short his career with the Saints.
I also hear the Graeme Gellie is doing well in Colac running a fitness centre. He's still in good shape apart from the knee that cut short his career with the Saints.
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Re: Ballarat's All Time Best. Western Highway Saints.
Great work, Elvis. Keep the interesting threads coming. Maybe SA, Tas, WA Saints if this hasn't been done.Elvis wrote:As promised, the best Saints from Ballarat. As with the previous criteria, each has been chosen as close to the position they actually played. Some real gems here! This can run its course for a week or so then I will finalise after feedback. The only possible challenges might come from some recent players, who may have spent time at Ballarat before joining the TAC etc, or recycleds who started out somewhere near the banks of Lake Wendouree.
This one was fun to put together, and ah, that centreline actually hit the paddock in that exact arrangement a number of times.
By my estimates there are no current playing Ballarat Saints, so I guess it will be a happy day for the faithful when we continue our historical connection to this fantastic footballing city!
Apologies to Sebastopolians and perhaps a couple of players from Beaufort (Gary Lofts and Dean Chiron from memory) but this is strictly a Ballarat line up!
Comments folks!
Listed are player names, years played and original club from Ballarat.
BP Jamie Lamb, 86 - 90, East Ballarat
FB Danny Frawley, 84 - 95, East Ballarat
BP Jeff Dunne, 77 - 83, Nth Ballarat
HBF Dan Feehan, 04 - 10, Sth Ballarat
CHB Val Perovic, 73 - 79, Redan
HBF Russell Tweeddale, 77 - 81, Redan
W Geoff Cunningham, 77 - 89, Golden Point
C Greg Burns , 78 - 89, North Ballarat
W Darryl Cunningham, 83 - 86, Golden Point
HFF Robbie Muir, 74 - 84, Ballarat
CHF George Morrisey, 07 - 13, Redan
HFF Brian Gleeson, 53 - 57, St.Pats (via Berrigan)
FP Charles Baker, 02 - 06, Sth Ballarat
FF Tony Lockett, 83 - 94, Nth Ballarat
FP Sean Simpson, 88 - 90, East Ballarat
RR Greg Packham, 82- 83, Redan
Paul Dodd, 56 - 62, East Ballarat
R Rick Sutherland, 1981, Nth Ballarat
IC Eric Clarke, 80, Ballarat,
Jim Stephenson, 56, Ballarat
Bobby Donald, 14 - 15, Golden Point
William Stevens, 30 - 31, Ballarat
Apologies to: Allan Jenkin, 86, Nth Ballarat, Arthur Leach, 20, Sth Ballarat, Ian Gordan, 57, Golden Point, Alex Cuthbertson, Paul Armstrong and Rod Gladman.
Enjoy!
Cheers Milan, will let the Ballarats run their course for a week or so then will post another. Won't reveal the next team until it's out to avoid a cross-thread.
The Ballarat team is a cracker, some great names in this mix. I wonder if another club has had the same depth out of Ballarat... and further to that, if another club could field a team from Ballarat, would they beat our Saints team? Even though this line up is not final, I doubt it!
The Ballarat team is a cracker, some great names in this mix. I wonder if another club has had the same depth out of Ballarat... and further to that, if another club could field a team from Ballarat, would they beat our Saints team? Even though this line up is not final, I doubt it!
You're a bit rough on the Sebastapolians - but if they've had Dwayne Russell as a coach who can blame you Elvis and no need to apologise! I remember one year they had GF T-shirts printed up before the game and lost.
As a best and fairest winner Gellie should go straight into the side as the RR. Packham was only 5'2" so more of a rover than ruck rover.
Northey has a far superior coaching record to Gellie - he in fact coached him at Redan where they won from memory 4 flags in a row back in the 70's.
Robbie Muir was playing back at East Ballarat in 1981 - did he go back to the Saints after that Elvis?
Agree Lamb + D Cunningham out - in Kiel + M O'Keefe.
Absolute stars - Greg Burns, Jeff Dunne, Plugger, Spud Frawley, Val Perovic, Joffa Cunningham and of course Mad Dog Muir.
Honourary Journo Martin Blake from the Age who was a Golden Pointer as well (even though he wasn't much good at footy back then!)
As a best and fairest winner Gellie should go straight into the side as the RR. Packham was only 5'2" so more of a rover than ruck rover.
Northey has a far superior coaching record to Gellie - he in fact coached him at Redan where they won from memory 4 flags in a row back in the 70's.
Robbie Muir was playing back at East Ballarat in 1981 - did he go back to the Saints after that Elvis?
Agree Lamb + D Cunningham out - in Kiel + M O'Keefe.
Absolute stars - Greg Burns, Jeff Dunne, Plugger, Spud Frawley, Val Perovic, Joffa Cunningham and of course Mad Dog Muir.
Honourary Journo Martin Blake from the Age who was a Golden Pointer as well (even though he wasn't much good at footy back then!)
You're on fire Crowjelly. The only major issue for Swooper is that he didn't coach the Seniors at St.Kilda..but he did coach the seconds, so maybe we can sneak him in the final line up as an advisor to Graham Gellie. Yes, the great, wonderfully talented but often terrifying Robbie Muir came back in 84 but for only two games. Sadly he only played 20 games between 77 and 84. Kiel and O'Keefe hot favourites for the final line up in the possies you suggest and Martin Blake, well, yep, let's get him in as honorary statistician or historian or something.crowjelly wrote:You're a bit rough on the Sebastapolians - but if they've had Dwayne Russell as a coach who can blame you Elvis and no need to apologise! I remember one year they had GF T-shirts printed up before the game and lost.
As a best and fairest winner Gellie should go straight into the side as the RR. Packham was only 5'2" so more of a rover than ruck rover.
Northey has a far superior coaching record to Gellie - he in fact coached him at Redan where they won from memory 4 flags in a row back in the 70's.
Robbie Muir was playing back at East Ballarat in 1981 - did he go back to the Saints after that Elvis?
Agree Lamb + D Cunningham out - in Kiel + M O'Keefe.
Absolute stars - Greg Burns, Jeff Dunne, Plugger, Spud Frawley, Val Perovic, Joffa Cunningham and of course Mad Dog Muir.
Honourary Journo Martin Blake from the Age who was a Golden Pointer as well (even though he wasn't much good at footy back then!)
A couple of others unearthed for consideration. Surely Lindsay Fox will make the cut in this team in some capacity or another. His contribution to the Saints as President and in other ways has been enormous, so even if he doesn't slip in as a player, then maybe he'll go alongside (but above) Blake as honorary el presidente of the Ballarats (he played at Golden Point for a season on Killa's (strong) suggestion. I don't think the thread has picked up Tony Evans yet either (27 games, from East Ballarat, 86 - 88).
This will be a mighty side. I consider all thread contributors as fellow selectors so keep the suggestions coming.
BALLARAT'S FINEST. Final selections, Ballarat Saints
Selections noted, as per criteria. Is there any other geography based Saint theme teams that could beat this one? Is there any other club in the league that has drawn such a fine pool of talent from the one regional centre?
Enjoy!
BP Gary Odgers, 91, 1981 - 87, Golden Point
FB Danny Frawley (c), 226, 84 - 95, East Ballarat
BP Jeff Dunne, 101, 1977 - 83, Nth Ballarat
HBF Dan Feehan, 86, 1904 - 10, Sth Ballarat
CHB Val Perovic, 77, 1973 - 79, Redan
HBF Russell Tweeddale, 43, 1977 - 81, Redan
W Geoff Cunningham, 224, 1977 - 89, Golden Point
C Greg Burns , 169, 1978 - 89, North Ballarat
W Maurice O'Keefe, 51, 1977 - 79, Golden Point.
HFF Robbie Muir, 68, 1974 - 84, Ballarat
CHF Brian Gleeson, 71, 1953 - 57, St.Pats (via Berrigan)
HFF George Morrisey, 93, 1907 - 13, Redan
FP Charles Baker, 75, 1902 - 06, Sth Ballarat
FF Tony Lockett, 183, 1983 - 94, Nth Ballarat
FP Graeme Gellie, 32, 1978 - 83, Redan
RR Peter Kiel, 80, 1982 - 86, Golden Point
Paul Dodd, 57, 1956 - 62, East Ballarat
R Brian 'Muncher' Moloney, 41, 1956 - 58, St.Pats
IC Darryl Cunningham, 34, 1983 - 86, Golden Point
Michael Malthouse, 53, 1972 - 76, North Ballarat
Ian Baker, , 50, 1976 - 79, Redan
Jamie Lamb, 33, 1986 - 90, Ballarat
selection notes...
GARY ODGERS (back pocket, #29): Vice Captain at one stage and in some ways ahead of his time as an attacking defender.
DANNY FRAWLEY (fullback, #'s 49, 24, 2): Captain of this fine team. An absolute ornament to the club. Hard to believe he played a lot of his football at Centre Half Forward and Full Forward before coming to the Saints.
JEFF DUNNE (back pocket, #''s 48, 8): Solid, reliable and amongst the first picked in this squad. The original back pocket specialist.
DAN FEEHAN (half back flank): Played in a number of positions but was at his best down back. Former Vice Captain at Sth Ballarat.
VAL PEROVIC (centre half back, #'s 32, 25, 9): Another who moved on after the 'shift to Melbourne' edict. The faithful were horrified to see him go. A fantastic footballer.
RUSSELL TWEEDDALE (half back flank, #23): Controversial ahead of Malthouse here, but 'Bucket' was and is a true Sainter through and through. A hard nut and when compared to the sort of football played by Malthouse at the Saints in this position, Tweeddale wins but only just by a curly red hair.
GEOFF CUNNINGHAM (wing, #"s 25, 5): Legend. Out and out champion.
GREG BURNS (centre, #'s 30, 11): The Sultan of Snake Valley. Another absolute legend.
MAURICE O'KEEFE (wing, #15): Pushed Darryl Cunningham to the bench in this line up. Fell out of favour when the Ballarats were told to move to Melbourne.
ROBERT MUIR (half forward flank, #'s 40, 32): Wonderfully talented but at times terrifying. Absolute tragedy that he played only 20 games from 1977 to 1984.
[BRIAN GLEESON (centre half forward, # 30): One of the most decorated in this lineup, honours included a Best and Fairest and a Brownlow. Spent time in the ruck but was very mobile and spent a lot of time in this position. Career cut tragically short by a knee injury.
b]GEORGE MORRISEY[/b] (half forward flank, #'s 1, 30): Perhaps unfiarly best remembered for spraying a shot at goal that could have landed us our first premiership, but make no mistake Morrisey was a gun and Captain in 1912.
CHARLES BAKER (forward pocket): Champion all rounder who also played cricket for Victoria. Kicked 30 goals in 1902, which is relatively unremarkable until closer inspection that reveals the Saints of that season only scored a grand total of 64 goals for the whole year.
TONY LOCKETT (full forward, #'s 37, 14, 4): He was just very, very, very good. The thrown crutches, suspensions, the mullet... never a dull moment with Plugger. One of our best.... ever.
GRAEME GELLIE (forward pocket, # 24): His first twenty games were sublime before injury. If you thought Diesel Williams had a good handball ask around, Graeme Gellie could cut a team up with quick inside hands just as easily as a looping, perfectly timed handball bomb. Good enough to keep others on the bench.
PETER KIEL (ruck rover, #17): Best and Fairest in his first year in 1982. Defensive on-baller who could rack up possessions. Great player.
PAUL DODD (rover, #6): A hard task master and incredibly talented. Another cruelled by injury.
BRIAN MOLONEY (ruck, #2). Edges out Gleeson (as a true ruckman) and Sutherland in the middle. Gave three seasons solid service in the ruck.
DARRYL CUNNINGHAM (interchange, #26): Didn't mind a blue but indeed he could play.
MICHAEL MALTHOUSE (interchange, #'s, 44, 37, 32, 22): More numbers than a telephone book perhaps suggests how he never quite settled at Moorabbin before Yabby moved him on.
IAN BAKER (interchange, #20): Had some toe but another hammered by injuries. We never saw the best of him.
JAMIE LAMB (interchange, #'s 51, 17): A solid toiler, best of the following...
Apologies to (games, year and club in brackets): Chris Bant, 27, 1907 - 08, Ballarat Imperials; Allan Jenkin, 6, 1984, W.C Jackson, 6, 1903, Ballarat Imperials; Nth Ballarat, Arthur Leach, 2, 1920, Sth Ballarat; Ian Gordan, 1, 1957, Golden Point: Alex Cuthbertson, 1, 1956, Ballarat; Paul Armstrong, 12, 1982, East Ballarat; Rod Gladman, 1, 1987, East Ballarat; Sean Simpson, 7, 1988 - 90, East Ballarat; Greg Packham, 17, 1982- 83, Redan; Ricky Sutherland, 9, 1981, Nth Ballarat; Eric Clarke, 6, 1980, Ballarat; Tony Evans, 27, 1986 - 88, East Ballarat; Bryant Hocking, 13, 1957, Golden Point; Jim Stephenson, 2, 1956, Ballarat; William Stevens, 23, 1930 - 31, Ballarat; Steven Allan, 9, 1982, Golden Point; Don Discher, 12, 1978 - 79, Ballarat; Bobby Donald, 7, 1914 - 15; Malcolm Scott, 10, 1979 - 80, North Ballarat; Lindsay Fox*, 20, 59 - 61, Golden Point.
ALSO:
COACH: Graeme Gellie, Redan St.Kilda coach late 1984 - 1986.
ASSISTANT COACH: John Swooper Northey, didn't coach at the Saints but did coach at Redan and still coaching at Ballarat! Slips in here under an obscure grandfather rule... Swooper's grandfather played two games for the Saints in 1908 (though he came from Stawell, not the Wendouree shores).
PRESIDENT: Lindsay Fox: Many would scoff at this as the Fox administration was responsible for laying down the law to the Ballarat Saints, insisting that road trips were out and full time residence in Melbourne was in. The great irony here was that in his playing days Killa sent LF to Golden Point for a season to sharpen up! make of that what you will!
STATISTICIAN/JOURNO: Martin Blake, fine writer and a son of Golden Point.
thanks to all for your input. This is certainly a team to be proud of. New team out in the next few days.
Selections noted, as per criteria. Is there any other geography based Saint theme teams that could beat this one? Is there any other club in the league that has drawn such a fine pool of talent from the one regional centre?
Enjoy!
BP Gary Odgers, 91, 1981 - 87, Golden Point
FB Danny Frawley (c), 226, 84 - 95, East Ballarat
BP Jeff Dunne, 101, 1977 - 83, Nth Ballarat
HBF Dan Feehan, 86, 1904 - 10, Sth Ballarat
CHB Val Perovic, 77, 1973 - 79, Redan
HBF Russell Tweeddale, 43, 1977 - 81, Redan
W Geoff Cunningham, 224, 1977 - 89, Golden Point
C Greg Burns , 169, 1978 - 89, North Ballarat
W Maurice O'Keefe, 51, 1977 - 79, Golden Point.
HFF Robbie Muir, 68, 1974 - 84, Ballarat
CHF Brian Gleeson, 71, 1953 - 57, St.Pats (via Berrigan)
HFF George Morrisey, 93, 1907 - 13, Redan
FP Charles Baker, 75, 1902 - 06, Sth Ballarat
FF Tony Lockett, 183, 1983 - 94, Nth Ballarat
FP Graeme Gellie, 32, 1978 - 83, Redan
RR Peter Kiel, 80, 1982 - 86, Golden Point
Paul Dodd, 57, 1956 - 62, East Ballarat
R Brian 'Muncher' Moloney, 41, 1956 - 58, St.Pats
IC Darryl Cunningham, 34, 1983 - 86, Golden Point
Michael Malthouse, 53, 1972 - 76, North Ballarat
Ian Baker, , 50, 1976 - 79, Redan
Jamie Lamb, 33, 1986 - 90, Ballarat
selection notes...
GARY ODGERS (back pocket, #29): Vice Captain at one stage and in some ways ahead of his time as an attacking defender.
DANNY FRAWLEY (fullback, #'s 49, 24, 2): Captain of this fine team. An absolute ornament to the club. Hard to believe he played a lot of his football at Centre Half Forward and Full Forward before coming to the Saints.
JEFF DUNNE (back pocket, #''s 48, 8): Solid, reliable and amongst the first picked in this squad. The original back pocket specialist.
DAN FEEHAN (half back flank): Played in a number of positions but was at his best down back. Former Vice Captain at Sth Ballarat.
VAL PEROVIC (centre half back, #'s 32, 25, 9): Another who moved on after the 'shift to Melbourne' edict. The faithful were horrified to see him go. A fantastic footballer.
RUSSELL TWEEDDALE (half back flank, #23): Controversial ahead of Malthouse here, but 'Bucket' was and is a true Sainter through and through. A hard nut and when compared to the sort of football played by Malthouse at the Saints in this position, Tweeddale wins but only just by a curly red hair.
GEOFF CUNNINGHAM (wing, #"s 25, 5): Legend. Out and out champion.
GREG BURNS (centre, #'s 30, 11): The Sultan of Snake Valley. Another absolute legend.
MAURICE O'KEEFE (wing, #15): Pushed Darryl Cunningham to the bench in this line up. Fell out of favour when the Ballarats were told to move to Melbourne.
ROBERT MUIR (half forward flank, #'s 40, 32): Wonderfully talented but at times terrifying. Absolute tragedy that he played only 20 games from 1977 to 1984.
[BRIAN GLEESON (centre half forward, # 30): One of the most decorated in this lineup, honours included a Best and Fairest and a Brownlow. Spent time in the ruck but was very mobile and spent a lot of time in this position. Career cut tragically short by a knee injury.
b]GEORGE MORRISEY[/b] (half forward flank, #'s 1, 30): Perhaps unfiarly best remembered for spraying a shot at goal that could have landed us our first premiership, but make no mistake Morrisey was a gun and Captain in 1912.
CHARLES BAKER (forward pocket): Champion all rounder who also played cricket for Victoria. Kicked 30 goals in 1902, which is relatively unremarkable until closer inspection that reveals the Saints of that season only scored a grand total of 64 goals for the whole year.
TONY LOCKETT (full forward, #'s 37, 14, 4): He was just very, very, very good. The thrown crutches, suspensions, the mullet... never a dull moment with Plugger. One of our best.... ever.
GRAEME GELLIE (forward pocket, # 24): His first twenty games were sublime before injury. If you thought Diesel Williams had a good handball ask around, Graeme Gellie could cut a team up with quick inside hands just as easily as a looping, perfectly timed handball bomb. Good enough to keep others on the bench.
PETER KIEL (ruck rover, #17): Best and Fairest in his first year in 1982. Defensive on-baller who could rack up possessions. Great player.
PAUL DODD (rover, #6): A hard task master and incredibly talented. Another cruelled by injury.
BRIAN MOLONEY (ruck, #2). Edges out Gleeson (as a true ruckman) and Sutherland in the middle. Gave three seasons solid service in the ruck.
DARRYL CUNNINGHAM (interchange, #26): Didn't mind a blue but indeed he could play.
MICHAEL MALTHOUSE (interchange, #'s, 44, 37, 32, 22): More numbers than a telephone book perhaps suggests how he never quite settled at Moorabbin before Yabby moved him on.
IAN BAKER (interchange, #20): Had some toe but another hammered by injuries. We never saw the best of him.
JAMIE LAMB (interchange, #'s 51, 17): A solid toiler, best of the following...
Apologies to (games, year and club in brackets): Chris Bant, 27, 1907 - 08, Ballarat Imperials; Allan Jenkin, 6, 1984, W.C Jackson, 6, 1903, Ballarat Imperials; Nth Ballarat, Arthur Leach, 2, 1920, Sth Ballarat; Ian Gordan, 1, 1957, Golden Point: Alex Cuthbertson, 1, 1956, Ballarat; Paul Armstrong, 12, 1982, East Ballarat; Rod Gladman, 1, 1987, East Ballarat; Sean Simpson, 7, 1988 - 90, East Ballarat; Greg Packham, 17, 1982- 83, Redan; Ricky Sutherland, 9, 1981, Nth Ballarat; Eric Clarke, 6, 1980, Ballarat; Tony Evans, 27, 1986 - 88, East Ballarat; Bryant Hocking, 13, 1957, Golden Point; Jim Stephenson, 2, 1956, Ballarat; William Stevens, 23, 1930 - 31, Ballarat; Steven Allan, 9, 1982, Golden Point; Don Discher, 12, 1978 - 79, Ballarat; Bobby Donald, 7, 1914 - 15; Malcolm Scott, 10, 1979 - 80, North Ballarat; Lindsay Fox*, 20, 59 - 61, Golden Point.
ALSO:
COACH: Graeme Gellie, Redan St.Kilda coach late 1984 - 1986.
ASSISTANT COACH: John Swooper Northey, didn't coach at the Saints but did coach at Redan and still coaching at Ballarat! Slips in here under an obscure grandfather rule... Swooper's grandfather played two games for the Saints in 1908 (though he came from Stawell, not the Wendouree shores).
PRESIDENT: Lindsay Fox: Many would scoff at this as the Fox administration was responsible for laying down the law to the Ballarat Saints, insisting that road trips were out and full time residence in Melbourne was in. The great irony here was that in his playing days Killa sent LF to Golden Point for a season to sharpen up! make of that what you will!
STATISTICIAN/JOURNO: Martin Blake, fine writer and a son of Golden Point.
thanks to all for your input. This is certainly a team to be proud of. New team out in the next few days.
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