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Melbourne, Richmond, Fremantle and North Melbourne appear unlikely to poach the veteran goalkicker, instead pouring their efforts into Luke Ball.
The race for the disgruntled Saints' onballer took a twist yesterday with St Kilda believed to be firmly back in the running, if not the front-runner, to keep Ball.
It is understood St Kilda officials and teammates who are in New York where Ball is holidaying plan to talk with the former club captain about staying at Moorabbin.
That commitment was matched by Melbourne chiefs, who are prepared to fly to the US to talk to him.
It is believed Ball remains upset with St Kilda after the club failed to trade him to his preferred destination, Collingwood, and then withdrew its three-year contract offer.
If Ball nominates for the National Draft, Melbourne could swoop with pick 11 or 18, while Collingwood, Brisbane Lions and Fremantle are also lining up for the 25-year-old.
Frenzied negotiations will almost certainly begin from tomorrow, when Ball's manager, Paul Connors, returns from holiday ..
Good to hear some of our boys are going to catch up with him in New York.
In a different environment like that it will hopefully make him realise that
- he is still wanted by the club
- he is still wanted by the players
Then he will have time to contemplate all that plus
- the premiership potential by staying
- and one team player benefits
before he comes home to
- media bombardment,
- harassment by other clubs,
- and the influence of his money-hungry ("show me the commission") manager
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
The longer that Ball himself takes to make some sort of comment, even via a released statment, the more the media speculation and rumours etc will continue.
I hope ball stays at st kilda, signs a 3 year contract and wins 3 premierships with the saints, then signs another 3 year contract and goes into the veterans category with the saints.
and gets a half decent player manager as well.
IMO some of the bagging of ball is uncalled for.
Bewaire krime, da krimson bolt is comeing to yure nayborhood to smach krime
Dan Warna wrote:I hope ball stays at st kilda, signs a 3 year contract and wins 3 premierships with the saints, then signs another 3 year contract and goes into the veterans category with the saints.
and gets a half decent player manager as well.
IMO some of the bagging of ball is uncalled for.
We can only dream, can't we. But how good would that be.
I agree he needs a new manager.
Dan Warna wrote:I hope ball stays at st kilda, signs a 3 year contract and wins 3 premierships with the saints, then signs another 3 year contract and goes into the veterans category with the saints.
and gets a half decent player manager as well.
IMO some of the bagging of ball is uncalled for.
Don't you mean Ball bagging?
Hotel De Los Muertos: Your room is ready... Care to step inside?
I need to know that Luke needs to know that being needy when you don't feel needed is not needed especially when you are getting needled when you are needed.
"The inches we need are everywhere around us. They're in every break in the game. Every minute, every second. On this team we fight for that inch. On this team we tear ourselves and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's gonna make the f***in' difference between winning and losing! Between living and dying!'
Enrico_Misso wrote:
before he comes home to
- media bombardment,
- reads all the cr@p written on here about him.
- harassment by other clubs,
- and the influence of his money-hungry ("show me the commission") manager
Hotel De Los Muertos: Your room is ready... Care to step inside?
I thought a holiday was supposed to be some sort of reward for hard work.
But Paul Connors gets a holiday for being a failure.
Where is the justice in that?
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SainterK wrote:I think this is actually the whole issue, Luke Ball needs to be needed...
We don't need him and neither does any other team.
We would like him to stay and other teams would like him.
If Luke Ball needs to be needed, he should find a good woman, get married and have some kids.
Otherwise, he should grow up and play footy to the best of his ability.
AND make sure they are all boys.
Sorry but girls don't qualify under the father-son rule.
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When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
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i'm just wondering if on a reduced salary this whole thing hasn't been a massive pull on the crookwood name.
ie. "crookwood? you know how to play the game? play the trade game .. you dont want to play? why? do you know how to play the game? you know how to play the game dont you? cmon crookwood - lets play the game!!"
althought she wouldnt have a clue who luke ball is
"Another storied win in Robert Harvey's career. They say he is the embodiment of their motto of strength through loyalty, and on the day he became just the tenth man to play 350 league games the saints reward him with a seemingly impossible victory."
Saints always want Ball.
Problem was they didn't kick it between the two big posts enough on that last Saturday in September.
Ball didn't get enough goal time.
The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/br ... 74815.html
The Saints haven't given up hope of retaining Ball, who fell out of favour last season after twice being dropped to VFL affiliate Sandringham, with two club officials reportedly flying to New York to speak to Ball, who is holidaying there.
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But the Demons haven't ruled out plucking Ball with their fourth pick overall (pick 18) in the draft and are also negotiating with Ball's management to potentially take him in the pre-season draft.
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Ball's manager Paul Connors told The Sunday Age yesterday that a decision on Ball's preferred destination was still at least two weeks away: ''He's away, I'm away, we'll chat when we're all back.''
saintbrat wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/br ... 74815.html
The Saints haven't given up hope of retaining Ball, who fell out of favour last season after twice being dropped to VFL affiliate Sandringham, with two club officials reportedly flying to New York to speak to Ball, who is holidaying there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
But the Demons haven't ruled out plucking Ball with their fourth pick overall (pick 18) in the draft and are also negotiating with Ball's management to potentially take him in the pre-season draft.
>>>>>>>>>
Ball's manager Paul Connors told The Sunday Age yesterday that a decision on Ball's preferred destination was still at least two weeks away: ''He's away, I'm away, we'll chat when we're all back.''
It would seem that club "officials" have worked out what they can afford under the salary cap, flown to New York to see Ball.
As he is coming out of contract it is possible that his contract with Paul Connors is expiring too.
It would be lovely if he were to sign without consulting Connors, sack Connors, and keep Connors cut for himself.
The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
saintbrat wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/br ... 74815.html
The Saints haven't given up hope of retaining Ball, who fell out of favour last season after twice being dropped to VFL affiliate Sandringham, with two club officials reportedly flying to New York to speak to Ball, who is holidaying there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
But the Demons haven't ruled out plucking Ball with their fourth pick overall (pick 18) in the draft and are also negotiating with Ball's management to potentially take him in the pre-season draft.
>>>>>>>>>
Ball's manager Paul Connors told The Sunday Age yesterday that a decision on Ball's preferred destination was still at least two weeks away: ''He's away, I'm away, we'll chat when we're all back.''
It would seem that club "officials" have worked out what they can afford under the salary cap, flown to New York to see Ball.
As he is coming out of contract it is possible that his contract with Paul Connors is expiring too.
It would be lovely if he were to sign without consulting Connors, sack Connors, and keep Connors cut for himself.
5% of $150k (minimum AFL wage) is $6,900USD or a good holiday to new york.