Take your pick. JMac V Raph
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Take your pick. JMac V Raph
similar age, height and position. who is a better player? JMac for mine.
Joel Macdonald
#26 Brisbane Lions
Age: 25yr Games: 80 Born: October 10, 1984
Height: 186cm Weight: 88kg Position: Defender
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Raphael Clarke
#16 St Kilda Saints
Age: 24yr Games: 57 Born: September 24, 1985
Height: 188cm Weight: 78kg Position: Defender
Joel Macdonald
#26 Brisbane Lions
Age: 25yr Games: 80 Born: October 10, 1984
Height: 186cm Weight: 88kg Position: Defender
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Raphael Clarke
#16 St Kilda Saints
Age: 24yr Games: 57 Born: September 24, 1985
Height: 188cm Weight: 78kg Position: Defender
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take you pick
Raph is in our best 22 if he wasnt playing against bulldogs we would have lost .The first tackle in the Grand Final was Sam Fisher fault because he didnt block Rooke.To you all Raph bashers get a life or surport another team
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Which are like ARSEHOLES.plugger66 wrote:And thats my opinion. sorry OPINION.sax wrote:It's an OPINION!plugger66 wrote:I will pick who RL and the other coaching staff pick.
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Spot on Jabber.
Plus he had no support behind him (including voice) and no switching support accross the ground.
We did that twice and burnt Dawson in a similar break down of team rules front and centre on the 50M defensive line.
Geelong tried to populate the corridor and we fell into the trap of going there to players with no supports - twice.
I can only imagine what Silvagni may have had to say.
Baker played a wonderful, disciplined game towelling a highly credentialled player but I just wonder now if we are looking for a highly skilled small defender with pace and precise delivery - hence Peake.
Someone who can defend the skilled small forward and then create from deep in defence - including by making space as cover.
They have gone after Peake for a reason - and it is not our mid-field rotations because Lovett, Steven and Armitage will all come into the equation there along with Clarke.
Ball is well and truly covered if he continues on his current tack - then he has to earn an AFL game at St Kilda and therein lies his current predicament because he is obviously looking at the competion on our list and querying how he is to get a regular game.
Plus he had no support behind him (including voice) and no switching support accross the ground.
We did that twice and burnt Dawson in a similar break down of team rules front and centre on the 50M defensive line.
Geelong tried to populate the corridor and we fell into the trap of going there to players with no supports - twice.
I can only imagine what Silvagni may have had to say.
Baker played a wonderful, disciplined game towelling a highly credentialled player but I just wonder now if we are looking for a highly skilled small defender with pace and precise delivery - hence Peake.
Someone who can defend the skilled small forward and then create from deep in defence - including by making space as cover.
They have gone after Peake for a reason - and it is not our mid-field rotations because Lovett, Steven and Armitage will all come into the equation there along with Clarke.
Ball is well and truly covered if he continues on his current tack - then he has to earn an AFL game at St Kilda and therein lies his current predicament because he is obviously looking at the competion on our list and querying how he is to get a regular game.
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correct. He's a bit of a playmaker when he's up and running in a creative role. don't like him as a close-checking defender.boneless23 wrote:Raph has more upside than McDonald.
We have seen how good he can play (08 finals series, 09 PF).
We just need him to be a bit more consistent and close the gap between his good and bad games.
he's an onballer, winger or half-forward for mine.
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question .. Barry Brooks or Chris Judd ???? about as much releavance as this topic joel will not be an option for St Kilda and Raph is a Saints best 22 player
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