Pick 32

[#1GILL]

Our first pick in this years draft is pick number 32. So i thought i would take a look at some other players to be taken with this pick:

1995: Nigel Credlin
1996: Jim Plunkett
1997: Troy Johnson
1998: David Gallagher
1999: Daniel Giansiracusa
2000: Sam Hunt
2001: Campbell Brown
2002: Luke Jericho
2003: Brayden Shaw
2004: Brent Prismall
2005: Bernie Vince
2006: Kurt Tippett
2007: Levi Greenwood
2008: Liam Jones

2009: ????


It's interesting to look at how much more accurate recruiters become over time. 4 of the last 5 players taken at 32 look to be, or are good players.

Personally i would be wrapped if we could pluck a player of similar quality to Greenwood, Tippett, Vince, Prismall, Brown or Gia.

But as this draft is said to be weak, i doubt there is much chance of that happening

[ace]

Regretably as only players born May 1991 through to December1991 will be facing their first draft, only two thirds of the normal talent will be available.
January 1992 through to April 1992 is only available to Gold Coast at the moment, they can take 12 of these players now.

Consequently pick 32 has pick 48 quality.
That is late 3rd round.
Last year St Kilda took Rhys Stanley at pick 47 and Nick Heyne at pick 48.
GOP is the best that can be expected especially as recruiters are so much better at putting players in the correct order.

I prefer to put picks in perspective this way, some in the media who can't handle the mathematics just say the draft talent lacks depth or is weak this year.

St Kilda should not expect manna from heaven in this draft.
Any manna from heaven will be playing againt us next year.

[saintnick12]

Regretably as only players born May 1991 through to December1991 will be facing their first draft, only two thirds of the normal talent will be available.
January 1992 through to April 1992 is only available to Gold Coast at the moment, they can take 12 of these players now.

Consequently pick 32 has pick 48 quality.
That is late 3rd round.
Last year St Kilda took Rhys Stanley at pick 47 and Nick Heyne at pick 48.
GOP is the best that can be expected especially as recruiters are so much better at putting players in the correct order.

I prefer to put picks in perspective this way, some in the media who can't handle the mathematics just say the draft talent lacks depth or is weak this year.

St Kilda should not expect manna from heaven in this draft.
Any manna from heaven will be playing againt us next year.

Excuse my ignorance as I'm fairly new around here, but what does GOP stand for??

[vacuous space]

That's an incredible success rate. In ten years Hunt and Shaw (F/S) are the only ones you could label outright busts. I would be surprised if it were anything other than an anomoly though, like pick 7 winning the Rising Star the last three years.

As ace points out it's a weak draft. OTOH, 04 was a shocker of a draft and Geelong still managed to get a player out of the pick.

EDIT: Added Shaw and fixed spelling.

[xander]

Regretably as only players born May 1991 through to December1991 will be facing their first draft, only two thirds of the normal talent will be available.
January 1992 through to April 1992 is only available to Gold Coast at the moment, they can take 12 of these players now.

Consequently pick 32 has pick 48 quality.
That is late 3rd round.
Last year St Kilda took Rhys Stanley at pick 47 and Nick Heyne at pick 48.
GOP is the best that can be expected especially as recruiters are so much better at putting players in the correct order.

I prefer to put picks in perspective this way, some in the media who can't handle the mathematics just say the draft talent lacks depth or is weak this year.

St Kilda should not expect manna from heaven in this draft.
Any manna from heaven will be playing againt us next year.

Excuse my ignorance as I'm fairly new around here, but what does GOP stand for??

Good Ordinary Player i think

[cowboy18]

Regretably as only players born May 1991 through to December1991 will be facing their first draft, only two thirds of the normal talent will be available.
January 1992 through to April 1992 is only available to Gold Coast at the moment, they can take 12 of these players now.

Consequently pick 32 has pick 48 quality.
That is late 3rd round.
Last year St Kilda took Rhys Stanley at pick 47 and Nick Heyne at pick 48.
GOP is the best that can be expected especially as recruiters are so much better at putting players in the correct order.

I prefer to put picks in perspective this way, some in the media who can't handle the mathematics just say the draft talent lacks depth or is weak this year.

St Kilda should not expect manna from heaven in this draft.
Any manna from heaven will be playing againt us next year.

Excuse my ignorance as I'm fairly new around here, but what does GOP stand for??

Good ordinary player (a Jack Dyerism apparently?)

[saintnick12]

Thanks Guys.

[rexy]

Regretably as only players born May 1991 through to December1991 will be facing their first draft, only two thirds of the normal talent will be available.
January 1992 through to April 1992 is only available to Gold Coast at the moment, they can take 12 of these players now.

Consequently pick 32 has pick 48 quality.
That is late 3rd round.
Last year St Kilda took Rhys Stanley at pick 47 and Nick Heyne at pick 48.
GOP is the best that can be expected especially as recruiters are so much better at putting players in the correct order.

I prefer to put picks in perspective this way, some in the media who can't handle the mathematics just say the draft talent lacks depth or is weak this year.

St Kilda should not expect manna from heaven in this draft.
Any manna from heaven will be playing againt us next year.

Ace have you calculated what percentage on average of the draft is players born between january and april of the bottom age year. Ie statistically do an even number of players come from each month in the year or do are a bigger precentage from one super draft month? Apparently Leos are natural leaders. Is August the best month for drafting future captains?

Also do you know whether more of the higher draft picks come from the top of the age bracket or the bottom and if you do then does this mean that the lower down the draft order you fall the more compromised your pick becomes. Ie maybe pick 13 is really worth pick 14 but pick 68 is only worth pick 704? If this is the case then if James Hird was drafted this year he could have actually been the only brownlow medalist ever drafted outside the top 1000, perhaps he is a Leo.



Hope we pick the best available kid at 32, the list in the OP certainly shows that if you select well there is very good footballers available well down the order.

[oneteam]

[quote="#1GILL"]

Personally i would be wrapped


Wrapped ? in paper?

or rapt as in rapture?

[Thinline]

What came of young Nigel Credlin? Tht's what I wanna know...

[Armoooo]

Would absolutely love a Bernie Vince running around for us, I'm putting money on him for the brownlow next seaoson...

[rexy]

Would absolutely love a Bernie Vince running around for us, I'm putting money on him for the brownlow next seaoson...

Staistically very unlikely that another player called Bernie Vince would even be in the draft, let alone still available at pick 32 in a compromised year.

Bernie is not a very common name these days.

[Beej]

Would absolutely love a Bernie Vince running around for us, I'm putting money on him for the brownlow next seaoson...

This.

Loved watching him play this season.

Probably not "world class" at any one facet of the game, just a very tidy player all round.

[mick13]

Personally i would be wrapped


Wrapped ? in paper?

or rapt as in rapture?

raped? rapped?

Love it when people attempt to right that word.

LULZ

[Milan Faletic]

Our first pick in this years draft is pick number 32. So i thought i would take a look at some other players to be taken with this pick:

1995: Nigel Credlin
1996: Jim Plunkett
1997: Troy Johnson
1998: David Gallagher
1999: Daniel Giansiracusa
2000: Sam Hunt
2001: Campbell Brown
2002: Luke Jericho
2003: Brayden Shaw
2004: Brent Prismall
2005: Bernie Vince
2006: Kurt Tippett
2007: Levi Greenwood
2008: Liam Jones

2009: ????


It's interesting to look at how much more accurate recruiters become over time. 4 of the last 5 players taken at 32 look to be, or are good players.

Personally i would be wrapped if we could pluck a player of similar quality to Greenwood, Tippett, Vince, Prismall, Brown or Gia.

But as this draft is said to be weak, i doubt there is much chance of that happening

Interesting post. There certainly are some good ones there. At least this post has broken the monotonous Luke Ball threads. On ya Gill!

[saint66au]

1996: Jim Plunkett

Trivia Question...anyone know what else Jim Plunkett was famous for?

[Iceman234]

Is 1998 the Gallagher that plays for Sandy now?

[ace]

Regretably as only players born May 1991 through to December1991 will be facing their first draft, only two thirds of the normal talent will be available.
January 1992 through to April 1992 is only available to Gold Coast at the moment, they can take 12 of these players now.

Consequently pick 32 has pick 48 quality.
That is late 3rd round.
Last year St Kilda took Rhys Stanley at pick 47 and Nick Heyne at pick 48.
GOP is the best that can be expected especially as recruiters are so much better at putting players in the correct order.

I prefer to put picks in perspective this way, some in the media who can't handle the mathematics just say the draft talent lacks depth or is weak this year.

St Kilda should not expect manna from heaven in this draft.
Any manna from heaven will be playing againt us next year.

Ace have you calculated what percentage on average of the draft is players born between january and april of the bottom age year. Ie statistically do an even number of players come from each month in the year or do are a bigger precentage from one super draft month? Apparently Leos are natural leaders. Is August the best month for drafting future captains?

Also do you know whether more of the higher draft picks come from the top of the age bracket or the bottom and if you do then does this mean that the lower down the draft order you fall the more compromised your pick becomes. Ie maybe pick 13 is really worth pick 14 but pick 68 is only worth pick 704? If this is the case then if James Hird was drafted this year he could have actually been the only brownlow medalist ever drafted outside the top 1000, perhaps he is a Leo.



Hope we pick the best available kid at 32, the list in the OP certainly shows that if you select well there is very good footballers available well down the order.

Astrology can be fun but when things are serious, I prefer mathematics and science.

There is no reasonable reason why the day of the year on which you are born would affect your ability to play football.
Every day of the year can be assumed to be statistically equal.
Being younger does not effect a persons prospects but only delays physical development by a few months.
Younger kids do have a greater probability to have one more year to complete at school.

My understanding is that the AFL eventually wants January to April to always be in the following draft to better align the draft with leaving school. (A consequence of the school starting age).

[remboy]

1996: Jim Plunkett

Trivia Question...anyone know what else Jim Plunkett was famous for?

Wasn't he the kid who did the Aeroguard ad with Max Walker?
I think that's the only thing he's famous for.

[saint66au]

1996: Jim Plunkett

Trivia Question...anyone know what else Jim Plunkett was famous for?

Wasn't he the kid who did the Aeroguard ad with Max Walker?
I think that's the only thing he's famous for.

Correct...and correct lol

[chook23]

1996: Jim Plunkett

Trivia Question...anyone know what else Jim Plunkett was famous for?

Wasn't he the kid who did the Aeroguard ad with Max Walker?
I think that's the only thing he's famous for.

Correct...and correct lol

What about his 3 flags in a row as coach of Heidelberg!!

[#1GILL]

Personally i would be wrapped


Wrapped ? in paper?

or rapt as in rapture?

raped? rapped?

Love it when people attempt to right that word.

LULZ

Do you mean 'write'?

[#1GILL]

Interesting post. There certainly are some good ones there. At least this post has broken the monotonous Luke Ball threads. On ya Gill!

Thanks mate, just doing my bit for the sanity of most forum users

[noblejohn]

Is 1998 the Gallagher that plays for Sandy now?

Yes it is
drafted by crows then swapped to carlton
Very good junior from Parkmore in DDJFL