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1) Ray and Dawson are younger than Peake.
2) Dawson coast us next to nothing. We got a pick back with Ray.
3) Ray had been dropped by a preliminary finalist; Dawson couldn't get a game with the team that won the flag. Peake couldn't make Freo's best 22.
4) We didn't trade our first round pick last year.
5) We didn't appear to be as awesome at this time last year as we do now.
evertonfc wrote:Looks like I've jumped the gun. Can't believe the abuse they're dishing out about him.
I thought he looked good but Freo fans, who watch him every week, have a vastly different idea.
Much like the WB fans last year about Farren Ray.
'inconsistant'
'turns the ball over'
'soft'
etc.
I'm seriously having deja-vu with just the names transposed.
Still feel like the point they were making was that at the point in time, at that age, Ray, hadn't reached his potential.
Look, I'm FOR Peake - I'm just not convinced we should have traded away a third round pick when there's plenty of other, juicier options. Would have held out of for a fourth-or-bust midday-Friday deal.
Still, if he does well for five years, it's a bargain, isn't it?
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evertonfc wrote:Looks like I've jumped the gun. Can't believe the abuse they're dishing out about him.
I thought he looked good but Freo fans, who watch him every week, have a vastly different idea.
Much like the WB fans last year about Farren Ray.
'inconsistant'
'turns the ball over'
'soft'
etc.
I'm seriously having deja-vu with just the names transposed.
Ray was 22.
Peake is 26.
Big difference, for mine.
Have our List managers and football department performed badly in the past 2 years?
I don't think so.
Therefore I'm prepared to go with their choices until they do perform badly.
One question they must decide on is what that pick (46?) would get them in this draft in comparison to Peake?
A draft that has been universally described as being very shallow for genuine star players and compromised by the lack of 17 year olds.
evertonfc wrote:Looks like I've jumped the gun. Can't believe the abuse they're dishing out about him.
I thought he looked good but Freo fans, who watch him every week, have a vastly different idea.
Much like the WB fans last year about Farren Ray.
'inconsistant'
'turns the ball over'
'soft'
etc.
I'm seriously having deja-vu with just the names transposed.
Still feel like the point they were making was that at the point in time, at that age, Ray, hadn't reached his potential.
Look, I'm FOR Peake - I'm just not convinced we should have traded away a third round pick when there's plenty of other, juicier options. Would have held out of for a fourth-or-bust midday-Friday deal.
Still, if he does well for five years, it's a bargain, isn't it?
Can you name them?
are they really available?
And can we accomodate them?
Hotel De Los Muertos: Your room is ready... Care to step inside?
In the same age group as our core. Could be handy with his run and carry. Who thought CJ could turn it around so quick? Ross has seen something. Freo fans still think Des Headland was a good pick up and Jeff Farmer walks on water. their opinion means jack.
1) Ray and Dawson are younger than Peake.
2) Dawson coast us next to nothing. We got a pick back with Ray.
3) Ray had been dropped by a preliminary finalist; Dawson couldn't get a game with the team that won the flag. Peake couldn't make Freo's best 22.
4) We didn't trade our first round pick last year.
5) We didn't appear to be as awesome at this time last year as we do now.
All valid points to consider, VS.
Peake did play quite a few games last year, however. We do seem to have gone from the club who could grab a bargain deal (Gardiner + Birss for 43, Schneider + Dempster for 22, King + Gardiner for 90, Ray + 49 for 31) to the club who is willing to pay the odds, even a bit over, to get what we perceive to be a problem - pace.
Put it this way. I think it's probably a bit early in the week to have made both these deals. What if these picks could have been used in some way to net Shaun Burgoyne or Brendan Fevola? Yeesh.
Anyway, when it's said and done, I feel our first 25 is stronger than what it was two weeks ago. That's a good thing.
Hmmm....Must say i am a bit concerend about this one, but saying that ross is a great coach and he knows what is best for the Stkilda FC remember this time last year we were going on about how bad farren ray was a why we picked him up.
Farren was one of the few to play all 25 games this year and in those 25 games he averaged 22 disposals. We have great staff down at the saints, in 2007 at the doggies farren played 21 games and only averaged 15 disposals a game see in to that what you will.
Now Peake played 18 games this year for freo only averaging 18 disposals (not to bad) good burst player who can give you that spark that we somtimes lack. Now at Stkilda Peake may mature as a player around some superstars who no what they are doing and our coaching staff may find his full potential as we have done with our players we have picked up in other trade periods.
Looking forward to seeing how peake goes next year will be interesting where ross plays him and who he will replace in the team.
This trade could indicate that we may be trade x. clarke as we have picked up two speedsters this week and will be intresting to see what happens with ball, i think we will be pushing hard for top 20 draft picks and possibly a proven quality player.
Hopefully these trades help the saints go the one step futher in 2010 and we are posting threds on how good picking up peake and lovett has been for our team. GO SAINTS IN 2010.
evertonfc wrote:
Anyway, when it's said and done, I feel our first 25 is stronger than what it was two weeks ago. That's a good thing.
This is the upshot.
In that respect I am with you.
Dont know much about Peake but after the Lovett deal anything is a bonus.
Everybody - enjoy the ride to about 2013 - after that we are rebuilding for about 5 years.
Lance or James??
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Legendary wrote:There was one year in their history when Fremantle were a good team - top four, Preliminary Final, well-coached and with good players on every line.
That year was 2006.
When Peake played in that side, much like Shane Woewodin, he was a gun.
In a crap side (Fremantle 2007 - present), he's pretty average.
He's like Tony Brown c. 1997-99 ... makes a good side even better, but struggles when he's surrounded by lousy players.
Good trade Saints ...
His performance went downhill when that muppet Harvey took over as coach.
Legendary wrote:There was one year in their history when Fremantle were a good team - top four, Preliminary Final, well-coached and with good players on every line.
That year was 2006.
When Peake played in that side, much like Shane Woewodin, he was a gun.
In a crap side (Fremantle 2007 - present), he's pretty average.
He's like Tony Brown c. 1997-99 ... makes a good side even better, but struggles when he's surrounded by lousy players.
Good trade Saints ...
Good Point.
Lance or James??
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
Legendary wrote:There was one year in their history when Fremantle were a good team - top four, Preliminary Final, well-coached and with good players on every line.
That year was 2006.
When Peake played in that side, much like Shane Woewodin, he was a gun.
In a crap side (Fremantle 2007 - present), he's pretty average.
He's like Tony Brown c. 1997-99 ... makes a good side even better, but struggles when he's surrounded by lousy players.
Good trade Saints ...
Good Point.
So, what you're saying is...?
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The way i see it, most fans are going to act bitter towards players that are no longer with them - look at what some of us have said about Ball. And who really cares what Freo fans think anyway..lastly lets be honest.. who actually looks good in a purple guernsey?
Seriously the coaching staff have seen something in this guy, just like they did Zac and Farren. They feel he can add something to our side, and going by previous trades they seem to know what they're looking for.
As the 2010 season is months away and i cannot judge for myself, the St.Kilda coaching staff's opinion is good enough for me at this stage.
Good luck to both Andrew and Brett, I hope they are ready to fully embrace the red, white and black.
Legendary wrote:There was one year in their history when Fremantle were a good team - top four, Preliminary Final, well-coached and with good players on every line.
That year was 2006.
When Peake played in that side, much like Shane Woewodin, he was a gun.
In a crap side (Fremantle 2007 - present), he's pretty average.
He's like Tony Brown c. 1997-99 ... makes a good side even better, but struggles when he's surrounded by lousy players.
Good trade Saints ...
Good post and I believe he finished 3rd in their best & fairest in that very good 2006 year Freo had.
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