OFFICIAL: Andrew Lovett - Traded for 1st rounder (Pick 16)

xander · Post: # 842986Post **xander** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 10:41pm

saint66au wrote:Oh...and another ANZAC day Medallist joins our ranks

Umm..who was the other one again????

wasn't mcgough or watever his name was one?

Bernard Shakey · Tue 06 Oct 2009 10:49pm

xander wrote:
saint66au wrote:Oh...and another ANZAC day Medallist joins our ranks

Umm..who was the other one again???? 8-)

wasn't mcgough or watever his name was one?

Yeah, that was the shortlegged bloke.

claystreet · Tue 06 Oct 2009 10:52pm

Yeah i remember fugough as i heard him called by one supporter.

jonesy · Post: # 843026Post **jonesy** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 10:53pm

Another one of GT's gems.
What did he say,"biggest ball magnet in the league" or something?

Milton66 · Post: # 843051Post **Milton66** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 11:03pm

claystreet wrote:Yeah i remember fugough as i heard him called by one supporter.

ROFL.. that is pure gold.

Legendary · Post: # 843054Post **Legendary** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 11:09pm

Great trade Saints.

Pick 16 in this draft is the equivalent of around pick 20-25 in a normal draft (because of there being no 17 year olds available).

We will still draft 4-5 new youngsters into the club.

Our best chance at a flag is in the next 2-3 years. Lovett adds to our side enormously in this time.

Drafting an 18 year old kid with pick #16 who will be useful to the side in 5 years ... vs. drafting a 27-year old who fits our needs NOW and can play 100 games with us ... I reckon we've made the right call.

Now to offload Ball for a first round pick

hotdish · Post: # 843055Post **hotdish** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 11:10pm

Caption: Lovett kicks his third to put the saints into the 2010 Grand Final!

SainterK · Post: # 843057Post **SainterK** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 11:11pm

hotdish wrote:

He has the same after goal celebration as Gardiner

bergholt · Post: # 843081Post **bergholt** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 11:43pm

Am I the only one worried that he slots straight in as the tenth oldest bloke on the list? If he was two years younger I'd be ecstatic, but I reckon he'll be lucky to play as many games with us as he did with Essendon - 88.

HarveysDeciple · Tue 06 Oct 2009 11:45pm

We used pick 16 for McQualter and an earlier pick on Armitage.

Armo is an unknown comodity, Mini has been good value now after a very slow start.

Lovett should play 5-6 years 100+ games and we know he can cut it.

Well worth it, can we guarantee that going forward from McQualter, McEvoy, Raph Clarke, Xavier Clarke, Armitage? our recent first rounds. No we can't, so it;s well and truelly worth the risk.

Rickabee · Post: # 843085Post **Rickabee** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 11:46pm

I just can't help but be impressed with Lyon & Drain and the Saints recruiting efforts since Lyon arrived. Either ha has some "pictures" on a lot of people or he's very persuasive!
The actual reason I believe is that we have been very realistic to deal with, when compared with some other clubs, suchas Collingwood or Hawthorn.

Let's hope for a good deal to be completed with Luke Ball, now that he has made his decision. I am sad to see him go as he has been "through the wars" for us and is a great competitor. Ross has kept his word following the GF and he is determined to take us to the next level. He continues to understand our weknesses and to recruit to solve those problems.

Last year they fixed our defence to be the best, and if they maintain this and he improves our scoring from multiple sources we will have the formula complete. He has been very methodical, so I hope he addresses the scoring totals and scoring sources. I'd love to see a goal kicking coach approinted to focus on maximising our scores!

I'm looking forward to the rest of the week now!

jonesy · Post: # 843086Post **jonesy** » Tue 06 Oct 2009 11:46pm

bergholt wrote:Am I the only one worried that he slots straight in as the tenth oldest bloke on the list? If he was two years younger I'd be ecstatic, but I reckon he'll be lucky to play as many games with us as he did with Essendon - 88.

If he only plays 20 for us,but plays in a premiership then I couldn't care less if he then retires or go's missing.
It's almost getting to the stage where I'd be willing to sell my soul for a premiership

Wigsy · Post: # 843118Post **Wigsy** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 12:30am

Happy enough with him in the squad, but will await his finals form, which is where it counts. Will also await the remainder of the week to see how the other trades vs draft picks measures up. Potentially over the odds at 16, but we shall see what happens with Ball, Jolly, and Burgoyne. Ball leaving will leave a real hole in terms of contested possessions so I'm hardly ecstatic if it ends up being a near straight swap or even less.

But welcome aboard Andrew and look forward to a 6-month date with the tackling bag - I look forward to him adding to the ferocious tackling.

groupie1 · Post: # 843137Post **groupie1** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 1:06am

evertonfc wrote:
xander wrote:I don't see the issue with the trade. This year's draft is terrible and last year we took heaps of kids in the national & rookie drafts.
True, but it's such a high price. I'd still rather we moved heaven and earth for Burgoyne, an elite midfielder who would have been brilliant.

We're out of the running there now and that's disappointing.

Having said that, using Lovett of a half-back flank, instead of Raph Clarke*, is sure to boost our team considerably. I'm a big Lovett fan...just thought we could get him a little cheaper.

* - This is NOT Raph-bashing. It's just that he's not a great player and failed in the Grand Final, and they occupy the same position. And you can't play the racist card either, obviously...

I CAN'T believe you played the racist card, mate.

groupie1 · Post: # 843140Post **groupie1** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 1:09am

bergholt wrote:Am I the only one worried that he slots straight in as the tenth oldest bloke on the list? If he was two years younger I'd be ecstatic, but I reckon he'll be lucky to play as many games with us as he did with Essendon - 88.

Yes, you are

kosifantutti23 · Wed 07 Oct 2009 1:29am

Lucky we lost the Grand Final.

I don't think the Bombers would have accepted pick 17.

matrix · Post: # 843152Post **matrix** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 2:07am

joffaboy wrote:
cowboy18 wrote:
#1GILL wrote:Can anyone whip up a photoshop of him in a saints guernsey?
Bet this is still better than what the Herald Sun end up using.

thats shocking Hagred.

hagred lmao
that is gold

at cowboy
i laughed for ten mins
sorry c18

that first link S.A.Saint put up
( )
the second goal, starts at 20secs in
super pace, a decent kick and our leadership drummed into him this could turn out well
have to admit i wasnt 100% convinced
the potential is enormous
lets hope he takes it

ace · Post: # 843153Post **ace** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 2:12am

ausfatcat wrote:
vacuous space wrote: Not everyone's a winner. Brent Stanton would have to be dreading the oncoming taggers.
Stanton or Watson got most of the tags anyway, Lovett didn't get many, but it's sounds good if people say he did so it looks like we got a better deal than we did.

St Kilda did not tag Watson in either game against Essendon and Watson got Brownlow votes in both games.

ace · Post: # 843155Post **ace** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 2:53am

Batnoe wrote:
Thinline wrote:Terrific trade.

Once Lyonised, he'll be awesome.

Great to see another indigenous fella on the list, too
He's indigenous?

I've been looking at the wrong guy in these youtube highlights

He's indigenous? I thought he's blackfella.

saintly · Post: # 843186Post **saintly** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 9:33am

bergholt wrote:Am I the only one worried that he slots straight in as the tenth oldest bloke on the list? If he was two years younger I'd be ecstatic, but I reckon he'll be lucky to play as many games with us as he did with Essendon - 88.

nope i am slightly concerned of his age as well.

if the saints don't pull of a flag in the next 2 years. would this tyears trading be a waste?

no young players coming through?

trying to buy a flag now when it may not come to fruition?

mightysainters · Wed 07 Oct 2009 9:35am

we payed over the odds a 1st round pick for a troubled 27 year old who everyone was touting as a 2nd round pick at best... Although he does add to our team greatly if he has the right attitude. He better put in otherwise it's a royal #$$# up

markp · Post: # 843191Post **markp** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 9:39am

I have the same concerns about Roo, as he's a month older than Lovett.

All is lost.

joffaboy · Post: # 843201Post **joffaboy** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 9:51am

saintly wrote:
bergholt wrote:Am I the only one worried that he slots straight in as the tenth oldest bloke on the list? If he was two years younger I'd be ecstatic, but I reckon he'll be lucky to play as many games with us as he did with Essendon - 88.
nope i am slightly concerned of his age as well.

if the saints don't pull of a flag in the next 2 years. would this tyears trading be a waste?

no young players coming through?

trying to buy a flag now when it may not come to fruition?

So you haven't bothered to read the first 9 pages?

We have a plethora of young players coming through that will make the seniors in the coming years.

geary
Eddy
McEvoy
Stanley
Heyne
Lynch
Steven
Armo

And we have X coming back and hopefully Goose now fully fit.

Every single one of them would have been playing seniors for a MOR team this year.

Because of our excellent injury run - these kids could ply their trade in the reserves all year some getting the occasional seniors run.

Add to that the Tommy Walsh prospect and I cannot possibly see how you can say we dont have young players coming through.

really the facts dont bear it out. We aren't rebuilding.

We were FIVE minutes from a flag

FIVE FARKEN minutes.

We have an opportunity to win a flag in the next two to three years.

Worry about rebuilding in 2013 0r 2014.

Moods · Post: # 843229Post **Moods** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 10:17am

groupie1 wrote:
evertonfc wrote:
xander wrote:I don't see the issue with the trade. This year's draft is terrible and last year we took heaps of kids in the national & rookie drafts.
True, but it's such a high price. I'd still rather we moved heaven and earth for Burgoyne, an elite midfielder who would have been brilliant.

We're out of the running there now and that's disappointing.

Having said that, using Lovett of a half-back flank, instead of Raph Clarke*, is sure to boost our team considerably. I'm a big Lovett fan...just thought we could get him a little cheaper.

* - This is NOT Raph-bashing. It's just that he's not a great player and failed in the Grand Final, and they occupy the same position. And you can't play the racist card either, obviously...
I CAN'T believe you played the racist card, mate.

Don't reckon we drafted Lovett to play HBF though. They will want him in the midfield - most likely on a wing.

SainterK · Post: # 843270Post **SainterK** » Wed 07 Oct 2009 11:01am

I am surprised at peoples concern about the age of AL, personally think Ross does the balancing act between now and the future very well.