Club Statement- Luke B- :(- wants to go to pies

Winmarvellous · Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:08pm

Now Ball wants out, would we be willing to part with Goose AND Ball for Burgoyne/Lovett

ausfatcat · Post: # 841648Post **ausfatcat** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:08pm

SaintWodonga wrote:I reckon RL has squeezed him out. I get the feel RL is happy tonight. I jst hope we come out of this well. Buygone or Fev (I know we would have to give out more for one of them).

Asolutely BS if Lyon wanted him out he would've been traded already, Luke is asking to be out this is Luke decision not anyone elses, don't try and pin this decision on anyone else.

saintsRrising · Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:08pm

The only problem with losing Ball is that he will take some of our game plan IP with him....

saintbrat · Post: # 841652Post **saintbrat** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:09pm

SainterK wrote:What concerns me the most, is that he must of fallen out of love with the club

One of my favourite players, very much so...

I can understand many of the 'POSSIBLE" reasons and understand the 'Value' we/ the club may now get

but this reason is also why I feel saddened..

bigcarl · Post: # 841655Post **bigcarl** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:10pm

saintsRrising wrote:The only problem with losing Ball is that he will take some of our game plan IP with him....

true, but he won't have the updated 2010 one that is being worked on as we speak.

Mr Magic · Post: # 841656Post **Mr Magic** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:10pm

SaintWodonga wrote:I reckon RL has squeezed him out. I get the feel RL is happy tonight.

Why would you say that?

Luke Ball and his manager have had a new 3 year contract on the table since June.

Do you really believe that the Club would have offered him a 3 year contract if the coach didn't want him?

Gabba · Post: # 841658Post **Gabba** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:11pm

As long as we don't get screwed...

claystreet · Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:11pm

Mr Magic wrote:
SaintWodonga wrote:I reckon RL has squeezed him out. I get the feel RL is happy tonight.
Why would you say that?

Luke Ball and his manager have had a new 3 year contract on the table since June.

Do you really believe that the Club would have offered him a 3 year contract if the coach didn't want him?

You beat me to it magic
They offered him 3 years oh but Ross want him out

saintjake · Post: # 841661Post **saintjake** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:11pm

Gabba wrote:As long as we don't get screwed...

FrankstonSainter · Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:14pm

traitor scum!
would rather fev getting on the piss

older saint · Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:14pm

HE wants gone fine but unless we get something of equivalent value no way. AFL teams have yet to really work this out but in the US teams rarely ever trade with contenders as they know it could come back to hurt them
Collingwood is a contender therefore if not reasonable sned him to pre season and he can learn "it a grand old flag..."

IluvHarvey · Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:30pm

Oh god I am hurting right now!!

claystreet · Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:32pm

IluvHarvey wrote:Oh god I am hurting right now!!

Me too i just run out of beer

SainterK · Post: # 841699Post **SainterK** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:33pm

I am still getting my head around "wants to go"

ausfatcat · Post: # 841700Post **ausfatcat** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:33pm

Of interest

Ball will play for less at Collingwood than the new deal the Saints have put to him. Ball has been loyal to the Saints since being drafted at No. 2 in 2001, but wants to play where he feels wanted as a key contributor.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/l ... 5783067248

ace · Post: # 841703Post **ace** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:36pm

The best thing about Ball leaving is the massive space it leaves in our salary cap.

Now some money may go to those players who actually earn it on the field.

Milton66 · Post: # 841704Post **Milton66** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:37pm

SainterK wrote:I am still getting my head around "wants to go"

Well if he's had a contract for 3 months and doesn't like it, then it isn't so much as falling out of love, as falling out of love with what's been offered.

The question is: If the club offered him $600k per year for 3 years, would see still seek a trade?

ausfatcat · Post: # 841706Post **ausfatcat** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:38pm

Milton see my post above, apparantly will play for less than the contract the saints offered him, so it doesn't seem like a money issue.

MCG-Unit · Post: # 841708Post **MCG-Unit** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:38pm

Goose is king wrote:Has anyone got a cute little kid that can write with a 20cent piece for Luke.

Aah yes , the old 'widows mite' sent to Chris Grant, to stop him leaving. Great idea..... Is it ok for a big kid to send $10 ??

So sad to read this - that's all I needed to end what has been one crapola of a day

My favourite player after Hayes

bigcarl · Post: # 841711Post **bigcarl** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:38pm

Ball will play for less at Collingwood than the new deal the Saints have put to him.

so they don't value him as highly as we do? go figure.

mad saint guy · Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:39pm

I wouldn't mind seeing a three way deal with Sydney involving us getting someone like Daniel O'Keefe.

Something along the lines of

Sydney get Fraser, Pick 14, Pick 30
Collingwood get Ball, Jolly
St Kilda get O'Keefe +2nd round pick or a player like Wellingham

With later draft picks evening up the deal if necessary

Milton66 · Post: # 841713Post **Milton66** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:39pm

ausfatcat wrote:Milton see my post above, apparantly will play for less than the contract the saints offered him, so it doesn't seem like a money issue.

Oh, I heard he was offered $500k at Collingwood.

No doubt, they'll make him an Ambasador for Lexus... just like Visy/Judd.

SainterK · Post: # 841718Post **SainterK** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:41pm

He said he wants to go where he feels more of a key contributor...

Milton66 · Post: # 841720Post **Milton66** » Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:44pm

SainterK wrote:He said he wants to go where he feels more of a key contributor...

Oh, ok then. If some one reckons he's better value then good luck to them. The problem then is that he's become a fair player in a strong team.

If we were sitting in 12th possy then he'd be a bigger contributor.

He might just get his wish in the PSD and end up at Freemantle where he'll be a major contributor.

Enrico_Misso · Mon 05 Oct 2009 11:44pm

What about that photo posted on this site of a man in tears in the rooms after the GF ???

What were those tears about?

Shattered like the rest of us because of his love for the Saints.
Or tears because he had already decided to leave and knew he had blown his chance of grabbing a medal before clearing out his locker?

I know this is a professional sport and generally these days players follow the money and opportunities.
But I thought Bally was better than that.