Can't believe Scarlett got 3rd and Gilbo didn't even get in.chook23 wrote:1....Ablett
2....Riewoldt
3....Scarlett.......??
4....Hayes
5....Judd
6....Selwood
7....Brown
8....Enright
9....DalSanto
10..Fevola
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Nope, I'm off fishing this weekend.SainterK wrote:That would be the very one!Bernard Shakey wrote:Are we talking about the d**khead from the Foxtel show On The Couch?
If so, what the canal would he know about footy? He's a hack journo.
Saturday night's B&F is more relevant to the Saints.
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Nice, have fun...Bernard Shakey wrote:Nope, I'm off fishing this weekend.SainterK wrote:That would be the very one!Bernard Shakey wrote:Are we talking about the d**khead from the Foxtel show On The Couch?
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Schnapper are back in the bay. Sunday dinner beckons.SainterK wrote:Nice, have fun...Bernard Shakey wrote:Nope, I'm off fishing this weekend.SainterK wrote:That would be the very one!Bernard Shakey wrote:Are we talking about the d**khead from the Foxtel show On The Couch?
If so, what the canal would he know about footy? He's a hack journo.
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I am absolutely stuffed as to the Gary Ablett hype.
Sure, great player but WATCH how many cheapies he gets from behind the man on the mark......seriously I rate Bartel higher than this bloke and Bartel CAN go on a gun like Hayes and do a job.
Couldnt give a toss about Gary's 67 posessions....its just a joke.
Riewoldt has WON finals off his own boot this year in THE hardest position on the ground.......and cheap Gary's better?
Nup.
Sure, great player but WATCH how many cheapies he gets from behind the man on the mark......seriously I rate Bartel higher than this bloke and Bartel CAN go on a gun like Hayes and do a job.
Couldnt give a toss about Gary's 67 posessions....its just a joke.
Riewoldt has WON finals off his own boot this year in THE hardest position on the ground.......and cheap Gary's better?
Nup.
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Ablett's deficiencies are genetic - his old man was/is an arsehole, and whatever happens from here on is just a filial thing.
The man with the hat (that's Gazza senior) laid down with a girl half his age who died. The merest fact that no prick from the Ablett family has ever acknowledged that fact remains an indictment. But, it is all DNA.
I follow the StK.F.C. Our leaders are one L.Hayes and one N.Riewoldt. These are fine men, no one doubts them.
I hate everything about Geelong. They are borne of the squatocracy, they are Western District tossers. Malcolm Fraser is their titular head.
But, BUT, it's about Ablett. He's a s***, his old man was a s*** and he's a s***.
I f****** hate him, and I hate very few.
2010 will be our best. It is our destiny.
The man with the hat (that's Gazza senior) laid down with a girl half his age who died. The merest fact that no prick from the Ablett family has ever acknowledged that fact remains an indictment. But, it is all DNA.
I follow the StK.F.C. Our leaders are one L.Hayes and one N.Riewoldt. These are fine men, no one doubts them.
I hate everything about Geelong. They are borne of the squatocracy, they are Western District tossers. Malcolm Fraser is their titular head.
But, BUT, it's about Ablett. He's a s***, his old man was a s*** and he's a s***.
I f****** hate him, and I hate very few.
2010 will be our best. It is our destiny.
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seriously? he didn't have the 8th best season this year, did he? i have to admit that i didn't see that much geelong but i don't remember much hype about him in any of the match reports. 20 or 30 touches a game off a half-back flank in a team where most players get at least 20 touches, averaged 2.8 tackles and 2.6 inside 50s.ausfatcat wrote:8. Enright
definitely not a bad season, but 8th?
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I second this. He is a great player, no argument, but the hype around him is bordering on the ridiculous. Reminds me of the hype around Judd. Another great player but not what they are hyped up to be. It is the under rated cattle around them that make them look better than what they are.Teflon wrote:I am absolutely stuffed as to the Gary Ablett hype.
Sure, great player but WATCH how many cheapies he gets from behind the man on the mark......seriously I rate Bartel higher than this bloke and Bartel CAN go on a gun like Hayes and do a job.
Couldnt give a toss about Gary's 67 posessions....its just a joke.
Riewoldt has WON finals off his own boot this year in THE hardest position on the ground.......and cheap Gary's better?
Nup.
Bartel and Chapman are better than Ablett and Sheehan has them in the 10th-20th range. Unfreakin' believable. No faith in his top 50 and this actually the first year i have bothered to read it for myself (Sheehan usually refers to it ad nauseam all year so no need to read it).
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Bartel and Chapman better than Ablett?
That's silly.
Ablett's a little genius. I haven't seen evasiveness like that since Robert Harvey was in his prime.
A month or two ago there was a "best 10 players you've ever seen" thread.
I had Ablett in my 10.
AFL players for three seasons straight have voted him to be the best footballer in the competition.
How good was this goal?
That's silly.
Ablett's a little genius. I haven't seen evasiveness like that since Robert Harvey was in his prime.
A month or two ago there was a "best 10 players you've ever seen" thread.
I had Ablett in my 10.
AFL players for three seasons straight have voted him to be the best footballer in the competition.
How good was this goal?
In your opinion. This is an opinion game. Neither one of us are right or wrong.OLB wrote:Bartel and Chapman better than Ablett?
That's silly.
Ablett's a little genius. I haven't seen evasiveness like that since Robert Harvey was in his prime.
A month or two ago there was a "best 10 players you've ever seen" thread.
I had Ablett in my 10.
Re-Chapman/Bartel, I believe they have much more of an impact on a game, especially Chapman, than what Ablett does. Would not rate Ablett Jnr in the best of all time, not even close at this stage. His father I would though, regardless of his off field issues.
That is laughable at best. Look at what Riewoldt polled? Putting all bias aside, he has been more important and influential to his team this year than what Ablett has. Don't rate this award all that highly after the results this year. Was a couple of other names that didn't poll well that left the eyes raised as well.OLB wrote:AFL players for three seasons straight have voted him to be the best footballer in the competition.
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Laughable at best in your opinion.saint75 wrote:In your opinion. This is an opinion game. Neither one of us are right or wrong.OLB wrote:Bartel and Chapman better than Ablett?
That's silly.
Ablett's a little genius. I haven't seen evasiveness like that since Robert Harvey was in his prime.
A month or two ago there was a "best 10 players you've ever seen" thread.
I had Ablett in my 10.
Re-Chapman/Bartel, I believe they have much more of an impact on a game, especially Chapman, than what Ablett does. Would not rate Ablett Jnr in the best of all time, not even close at this stage. His father I would though, regardless of his off field issues.
That is laughable at best. Look at what Riewoldt polled? Putting all bias aside, he has been more important and influential to his team this year than what Ablett has. Don't rate this award all that highly after the results this year. Was a couple of other names that didn't poll well that left the eyes raised as well.OLB wrote:AFL players for three seasons straight have voted him to be the best footballer in the competition.
No doubt that Riewoldt is more important to our side than Ablett is to theirs. You know why? Because Geelong have a gun midfield and without Ablett they're still very competitive with Bartel, Chapman, Corey, Selwood in the side. We would fall apart without Riewoldt. If we had Brown, Fevola and Pavlich in our team, Riewoldt wouldn't be as important, but we don't therefore Riewoldt is crucial.
However, AFL coaches have also voted Ablett to be the best player in the competition for the last three years.
You have your opinion and you're entitled to it, I just so happen to share the opinion of most AFL players and coaches who may know a thing or two about the game.
If the competition was starting up and each coach had to build their side from scratch, there would not be a single coach out there who would select Bartel or Chapman before Ablett.
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Mike shoots it in his pants over Joel Selwood.vacuous space wrote:Ablett vs Riewoldt is a futile argument anyway. Ablett's the best mid, Riewoldt's the best forward. Some like Judd more than Ablett, some like Brown more than Riewoldt. In any case, they're all spectacular players.
Now Joel Selwood at 6. That's embarrassing.
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This is easily the most disgusting post I have read on here. Ablett jnr is a brilliant player, senior also. So what are you suggesting Ablett should quit footy and spend 20 years in jail for his old man to acknowledge a death? PleaseThe OtherThommo wrote:Ablett's deficiencies are genetic - his old man was/is an arsehole, and whatever happens from here on is just a filial thing.
The man with the hat (that's Gazza senior) laid down with a girl half his age who died. The merest fact that no prick from the Ablett family has ever acknowledged that fact remains an indictment. But, it is all DNA.
I follow the StK.F.C. Our leaders are one L.Hayes and one N.Riewoldt. These are fine men, no one doubts them.
I hate everything about Geelong. They are borne of the squatocracy, they are Western District tossers. Malcolm Fraser is their titular head.
But, BUT, it's about Ablett. He's a s***, his old man was a s*** and he's a s***.
I f****** hate him, and I hate very few.
2010 will be our best. It is our destiny.
Don't be so precious. I did not say he was not a fantastic player, I just don't believe he is as good as they hype him to be and a few of his team mates are hard done by.OLB wrote:Laughable at best in your opinion.saint75 wrote:In your opinion. This is an opinion game. Neither one of us are right or wrong.OLB wrote:Bartel and Chapman better than Ablett?
That's silly.
Ablett's a little genius. I haven't seen evasiveness like that since Robert Harvey was in his prime.
A month or two ago there was a "best 10 players you've ever seen" thread.
I had Ablett in my 10.
Re-Chapman/Bartel, I believe they have much more of an impact on a game, especially Chapman, than what Ablett does. Would not rate Ablett Jnr in the best of all time, not even close at this stage. His father I would though, regardless of his off field issues.
That is laughable at best. Look at what Riewoldt polled? Putting all bias aside, he has been more important and influential to his team this year than what Ablett has. Don't rate this award all that highly after the results this year. Was a couple of other names that didn't poll well that left the eyes raised as well.OLB wrote:AFL players for three seasons straight have voted him to be the best footballer in the competition.
No doubt that Riewoldt is more important to our side than Ablett is to theirs. You know why? Because Geelong have a gun midfield and without Ablett they're still very competitive with Bartel, Chapman, Corey, Selwood in the side. We would fall apart without Riewoldt. If we had Brown, Fevola and Pavlich in our team, Riewoldt wouldn't be as important, but we don't therefore Riewoldt is crucial.
However, AFL coaches have also voted Ablett to be the best player in the competition for the last three years.
You have your opinion and you're entitled to it, I just so happen to share the opinion of most AFL players and coaches who may know a thing or two about the game.
If the competition was starting up and each coach had to build their side from scratch, there would not be a single coach out there who would select Bartel or Chapman before Ablett.
A lot of the footy scribes you believe are 'experts' also could not believe how low Rooey polled in that medal. It is a midfielders medal like the Brownlow now unfortunately and it's stocks have plummeted. Comparing Rooey and Ablett is like comparing apple and oranges, you can't compare them. However, you can compare there importance to their respective teams.
Do you really believe that after Chapman's year this year and last year that he would not be picked ahead of Ablett? They really suffered when he was out of the team. Not so when Ablett wasn't there. Think you might be amazed who would or would not be picked before Ablett.
Also, just out of curiosity, where did Enright end up on this list of Mick's? Geelong's own coaching team did not see Ablett as their outright favourite. It is all based on opinion. Makes it interesting and gives us all something to argue about....
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