The weather factor
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The weather factor
Remember looking at the weather forecast a full 7 days out from the grandfinal and shivering inside when they were predicting rain and wind.
Comforted myself that its just guesswork that far...it'll probably be fine by Saturday.
This optimism grew when the weather was crap all through the week...this just can't continue!!!
Driving up I had a bad vibe that the weather was not only going to disavantage us but that Geelong would relish the conditions.
As it turned out I really believe that Geelong handled the weather better probably due to playing in those conditions more often than us and that it reduced our key forward advantage making the leading game of Roo and the the power marking of Kosi less effective and more easy to defend against .
In a game of inches this was undoubtably a factor.Think in hindsight that we did extremely well against a very strong and proven wet weather team.
Not an excuse but a logical observation.Lets hope we are exposed to more games [especially at the G]in these trying conditions.
What we must make sure of is that going forward we become an all weather side ...those pushing up this year Steven,Armitage,Eddy and Geary all strike me as players who will handle these conditions well.
We also need to keep this in mind when recruiting young talent.Speed and strength over the ball should be our top priority next year.
Lets hope that 7 days out from our next grandfinal that we don't give a rats clacker about the weather
and that we will just be unstoppable in all conditions
Comforted myself that its just guesswork that far...it'll probably be fine by Saturday.
This optimism grew when the weather was crap all through the week...this just can't continue!!!
Driving up I had a bad vibe that the weather was not only going to disavantage us but that Geelong would relish the conditions.
As it turned out I really believe that Geelong handled the weather better probably due to playing in those conditions more often than us and that it reduced our key forward advantage making the leading game of Roo and the the power marking of Kosi less effective and more easy to defend against .
In a game of inches this was undoubtably a factor.Think in hindsight that we did extremely well against a very strong and proven wet weather team.
Not an excuse but a logical observation.Lets hope we are exposed to more games [especially at the G]in these trying conditions.
What we must make sure of is that going forward we become an all weather side ...those pushing up this year Steven,Armitage,Eddy and Geary all strike me as players who will handle these conditions well.
We also need to keep this in mind when recruiting young talent.Speed and strength over the ball should be our top priority next year.
Lets hope that 7 days out from our next grandfinal that we don't give a rats clacker about the weather
and that we will just be unstoppable in all conditions
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Also believe St. Pat, Geelong's experience helped them, they cooly slotted their chances when we probably rushed some of ours and missed.
I mean they had 15 inside 50's in the 1st half and scored 7.1.
We kicked 4.5 in the second quarter, when we really should have nailed at least 6 of those goals.
If we had that little extra poise, we would have been 3-4 goals up at half time.
Hopefully, it will be us with that experience, against a relative newcomer to a Grand Final next year.
I mean they had 15 inside 50's in the 1st half and scored 7.1.
We kicked 4.5 in the second quarter, when we really should have nailed at least 6 of those goals.
If we had that little extra poise, we would have been 3-4 goals up at half time.
Hopefully, it will be us with that experience, against a relative newcomer to a Grand Final next year.
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We train at Moorabbin. No roof.
Geelong train at Kardinia Park. No roof.
The weather had nothing to do with the fact that we missed 9 or 10 easy shots in front of goal. That's what cost us the game.
As they say in the classics, bad kicking is bad football.
Geelong train at Kardinia Park. No roof.
The weather had nothing to do with the fact that we missed 9 or 10 easy shots in front of goal. That's what cost us the game.
As they say in the classics, bad kicking is bad football.
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Can't argue with your last statement Bernard but It is my opinion that the weather suited Geelongs structure marginally...in comparison to ours.Bernard Shakey wrote:We train at Moorabbin. No roof.
Geelong train at Kardinia Park. No roof.
The weather had nothing to do with the fact that we missed 9 or 10 easy shots in front of goal. That's what cost us the game.
As they say in the classics, bad kicking is bad football.
Stillthink Armitage or Geary should have played for one less tall...but admittedly that is hindsight
Michael Gardiners marking [see round 14] also became less of a factor
As I said no excuse and we must learn to cope in all conditions.
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"We have beauty in our captain and we have a true leader in our coach. Our time will come"
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Willie Shakespear probably would have had some fair input to the discussion.Milton66 wrote:Oh Milney, Milney... Where for art thou Milney.Bernard Shakey wrote:
As they say in the classics, bad kicking is bad football.
What light beyond the goal posts break?
Is it thy goal umpire with 2 flags?
You mean those classics? 8-)
Not sure Milney would rate a mention, Schneider missed three sitters.
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Oh schneider, Scheider. Kick the fcuking goal, Schneider.Bernard Shakey wrote:Willie Shakespear probably would have had some fair input to the discussion.Milton66 wrote:Oh Milney, Milney... Where for art thou Milney.Bernard Shakey wrote:
As they say in the classics, bad kicking is bad football.
What light beyond the goal posts break?
Is it thy goal umpire with 2 flags?
You mean those classics?
Not sure Milney would rate a mention, Schneider missed three sitters.
Alas poor Kosi... I knew him well.
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"Train" and "Play" are two different things unfortunately.Bernard Shakey wrote:We train at Moorabbin. No roof.
Geelong train at Kardinia Park. No roof.
The weather had nothing to do with the fact that we missed 9 or 10 easy shots in front of goal. That's what cost us the game.
As they say in the classics, bad kicking is bad football.
Anyone who's play's knows that, sure you do it on the track but when it comes game day when the pressure's on, different story.
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What about those who say you play as you train?lefty wrote:"Train" and "Play" are two different things unfortunately.Bernard Shakey wrote:We train at Moorabbin. No roof.
Geelong train at Kardinia Park. No roof.
The weather had nothing to do with the fact that we missed 9 or 10 easy shots in front of goal. That's what cost us the game.
As they say in the classics, bad kicking is bad football.
Anyone who's play's knows that, sure you do it on the track but when it comes game day when the pressure's on, different story.
The weather did not cost us a premiership.
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Where's IAn Stewart when you need him?Bernard Shakey wrote:What about those who say you play as you train?lefty wrote:"Train" and "Play" are two different things unfortunately.Bernard Shakey wrote:We train at Moorabbin. No roof.
Geelong train at Kardinia Park. No roof.
The weather had nothing to do with the fact that we missed 9 or 10 easy shots in front of goal. That's what cost us the game.
As they say in the classics, bad kicking is bad football.
Anyone who's play's knows that, sure you do it on the track but when it comes game day when the pressure's on, different story.
The weather did not cost us a premiership.
Those sprinklers would have come in handy at training.
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Yup.Bernard Shakey wrote:We train at Moorabbin. No roof.
Geelong train at Kardinia Park. No roof.
The weather had nothing to do with the fact that we missed 9 or 10 easy shots in front of goal. That's what cost us the game.
As they say in the classics, bad kicking is bad football.
The only way, and I mean, the ONLY way that the weather assisted Geelong was that it made it harder on our key forwards to mark overhead or in a pack situation. Made it much easier to spoil.
We fkn handled Geelong in every other category on the day.
Just did not convert.
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I agree.Winmarvellous wrote:I actually thought the weather would aid our gameplan, as Geelong like to overpossess the ball and wet weather footy doesn't really play into this. Thought Lyon's Cage would suit it to a tee, and it would've if we had've kicked straight.
Anyone who had the misfortune of talking to me in Grand Final week heard my theory that wet weather would help us as taking us on and finding targets is a necessity in beating us. Both are hell of a lot harder in the wet.
We did not lose the Grand Final because it was wet, we lost it because our players missed sitters that they would normally kick with their eyes closed.
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We played our best footy during the worst conditions. In the second quarter when it was teeming we dominated every where except the scoreboard.
When the rain stopped in the last quarter, Geelong got momentum.
It should have been irrelevant though as we should have been 4-5 goals up going into the last quarter.
When the rain stopped in the last quarter, Geelong got momentum.
It should have been irrelevant though as we should have been 4-5 goals up going into the last quarter.