Another GT "Gem"... I agree 100%!

joffaboy · Post: # 827948Post **joffaboy** » Mon 21 Sep 2009 8:38pm

Oh dear

This thread has developed an irony defeciency

The Fireman · Mon 21 Sep 2009 8:46pm

joffaboy wrote:Should GT be allowed to comment on his betters?

GT is betterer.

Milton66 · Post: # 827961Post **Milton66** » Mon 21 Sep 2009 8:50pm

Surely the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will be resolved quicker than this one?

joffaboy · Post: # 827967Post **joffaboy** » Mon 21 Sep 2009 8:54pm

The moment we won on Friday the argument was resolved.

However the usual apologists reckoned Rossy was outcoached.

Outcoached the team all the way into a GF

Milton66 · Post: # 827972Post **Milton66** » Mon 21 Sep 2009 8:58pm

Given that GT looks like one of those baboons with the long nose, can he still comment on coaches who look like monkeys?

Yes it was answered on Friday nite.

All we've heard was that GT coached us to 2 prelims and within one kick of a GF appearance. blah blah blah.

Well, Lyon has coached us to 2 Prelims, won 1 and got us to a GF appearance.

Mind you, if we lose this week, they'll both be deemed failures IMO.

The Fireman · Mon 21 Sep 2009 9:07pm

SENsei · Post: # 828296Post **SENsei** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 1:00am

joffaboy wrote:The moment we won on Friday the argument was resolved.

However the usual apologists reckoned Rossy was outcoached.

Outcoached the team all the way into a GF

.LIAR

.RATTLED

SENsei · Post: # 828298Post **SENsei** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 1:01am

saintsRrising wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
If we dont win the flag this year should Gt replace Rl as coach?
Why would you want to go backwards????

Lyon has rebuilt the Saints into a very competitive unit that have the ability to challenge for a flag for several years.

Importantly too we have a modern football department that can take on all issues.

For example Drain at present can be already hard at work on possible trades such as Everitt etc...

Under the GT Model...nothing would be done and we would only end up with more dud Gt Trades.

Exchange of the night #1. Flying too high for some....

SENsei · Post: # 828303Post **SENsei** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 1:02am

saintsRrising wrote:
cowboy18 wrote:

GT set this up so that these guys coach themselves.
Rubbish...coached themselves...now there is a laugh..

Dal was a downill skier under GT...brilliant...but often missing.

Roo was on dimensional...a bloody nice dimension yes....but was lazy defensively who rarely tackled, smothered or chased.

Mini was almost lost to us...

Hamil stood out with his defensive side.....because he had been coached by other than GT.

Exchange of the night #2.

Cowboy earns 'tongue in cheek' award of the day.

SRS gains the 'hook' award.

.SEN LIARS

reincarnated · Tue 22 Sep 2009 1:05am

SENsaintsational wrote:
joffaboy wrote:The moment we won on Friday the argument was resolved.

However the usual apologists reckoned Rossy was outcoached.

Outcoached the team all the way into a GF
.LIAR

.RATTLED

It still will not be resolved until we win the Grand Final. Finishing second is useless

bigred · Post: # 828310Post **bigred** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 1:05am

41 Pages of AWESOME@!!!!11

SENsei · Post: # 828311Post **SENsei** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 1:05am

reincarnated wrote:
SENsaintsational wrote:
joffaboy wrote:The moment we won on Friday the argument was resolved.

However the usual apologists reckoned Rossy was outcoached.

Outcoached the team all the way into a GF
.LIAR

.RATTLED
It still will not be resolved until we win the Grand Final. Finishing second is useless

Was GT outcoached in the last GF he coached St Kilda in?

Milton66 · Post: # 828315Post **Milton66** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 1:06am

This thread sucks harder than a Presidential Intern.

Cigar anyone?

SENsei · Post: # 828317Post **SENsei** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 1:07am

Puffing Billy.

Milton66 · Post: # 828318Post **Milton66** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 1:07am

SENsaintsational wrote:
reincarnated wrote:
SENsaintsational wrote:
joffaboy wrote:The moment we won on Friday the argument was resolved.

However the usual apologists reckoned Rossy was outcoached.

Outcoached the team all the way into a GF
.LIAR

.RATTLED
It still will not be resolved until we win the Grand Final. Finishing second is useless
Was GT outcoached in the last GF he coached St Kilda in?

No. We won... but so did Ross.

RL - 1.5
GT - 1

reincarnated · Tue 22 Sep 2009 1:09am

SENsaintsational wrote:
reincarnated wrote:
SENsaintsational wrote:
joffaboy wrote:The moment we won on Friday the argument was resolved.

However the usual apologists reckoned Rossy was outcoached.

Outcoached the team all the way into a GF
.LIAR

.RATTLED
It still will not be resolved until we win the Grand Final. Finishing second is useless
Was GT outcoached in the last GF he coached St Kilda in?

You and Reincarnated both know the answer so why raise it.

Fact is Ross Lyon will be considered a failure if he does not (along with the players) win a premiership

Winning isn't everything it's the only thing

SENsei · Post: # 828329Post **SENsei** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 1:13am

reincarnated wrote:
SENsaintsational wrote:
reincarnated wrote:
SENsaintsational wrote:
joffaboy wrote:The moment we won on Friday the argument was resolved.

However the usual apologists reckoned Rossy was outcoached.

Outcoached the team all the way into a GF
.LIAR

.RATTLED
It still will not be resolved until we win the Grand Final. Finishing second is useless
Was GT outcoached in the last GF he coached St Kilda in?
You and Reincarnated both know the answer so why raise it.

Fact is Ross Lyon will be considered a failure if he does not (along with the players) win a premiership

Winning isn't everything it's the only thing

I'm not sure reincarnated does know the answer.

In fact, I'm not sure reincarnated knows .

reincarnated · Tue 22 Sep 2009 1:17am

SENsaintsational wrote:
reincarnated wrote:
SENsaintsational wrote:
reincarnated wrote:
SENsaintsational wrote:
joffaboy wrote:The moment we won on Friday the argument was resolved.

However the usual apologists reckoned Rossy was outcoached.

Outcoached the team all the way into a GF
.LIAR

.RATTLED
It still will not be resolved until we win the Grand Final. Finishing second is useless
Was GT outcoached in the last GF he coached St Kilda in?
You and Reincarnated both know the answer so why raise it.

Fact is Ross Lyon will be considered a failure if he does not (along with the players) win a premiership

Winning isn't everything it's the only thing
I'm not sure reincarnated does know the answer.

In fact, I'm not sure reincarnated knows .

Good one. Your attempt at being clever or taking a pot shotat Reincarnated was stupid

SENsei · Post: # 828462Post **SENsei** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 10:08am

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

You just cannot miss!!

.

saintly · Post: # 828467Post **saintly** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 10:20am

Milton66 wrote:Surely the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will be resolved quicker than this one?

i'm not so sure about that.

reincarnated · Tue 22 Sep 2009 2:16pm

Thread not done with yet

Mr Magic · Post: # 828754Post **Mr Magic** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 2:44pm

ANybody hear Ross Smith on SEN this afternoon?

Doran interviewed him about the appointment process of Ross Lyon.

It would seem another saintsational 'urban myth' was found to be nothing more than just that - 'urban myth'.

According to Smith, Lyon was always one of the leading candidates, but because the Club didn't want to give the public impression they were 'raiding' the Swans by having 2 of their assistants on the short list they decided to publicise only Longmire.

It had absolutely nothing to do with Walls being his mate.

As far as why he was finally selected, Smith stated the following:-
-He had control of the Swans midfield both during the week and on matchday and as such was much more involved in the actual 'running of the team'. That put him in a premier position to jump from assistant to head coach.
-In the interview process he was cool, calm and logical in his responses, no matter what question they threw at him and no matter how much pressure they put him under.
-In the interview process 'integrity' was a strongpoint in his coaching theory.
-He had a clear vision of the model he wanted to put in place.

Smith also stated that they were left in no doubt that he was the best of a strong list of candidates.

There were other things Smith stated but I'm struggling to remember them all.

ANd BTW, the coaching selection panel consisted of
Ross Smith - Chairman
Ken Sheldon
Robert Walls
Archie Fraser

Saints43 · Post: # 828796Post **Saints43** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 3:44pm

It depends on who we're believing this week. Walls took credit when it was going better - he stated somewhere that he threw RL's name into the mix. Sheldon when we were flying (see below) and had won nine in a row. Now Ross Smith had RL in his sights from day one - five days before we play in a grand final.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/n ... 5718309048

Rod Butterss, president at the time, and Sheldon met for a beer recently, chuckling that it hadn't been a bad idea to throw the Sydney midfield coach into the mix.

If Sheldon hadn't piped up, it might never have happened.

Sheldon, who left the Saints as the board changed over at the end of 2007, did not want to spruik this week.

But it is fact that he was first to prod the others and point them left-field in Lyon's direction.

It is understood several board members had eyes only for the usual suspects on the coaching carousel.

"I was just part of the process. My contribution's minimal,'' Sheldon said.

Mr Magic · Post: # 828801Post **Mr Magic** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 3:51pm

Saints43 wrote:It depends on who we're believing this week. Walls took credit when it was going better - he stated somewhere that he threw RL's name into the mix. Sheldon when we were flying (see below) and had won nine in a row. Now Ross Smith had RL in his sights from day one - five days before we play in a grand final.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/n ... 5718309048

Rod Butterss, president at the time, and Sheldon met for a beer recently, chuckling that it hadn't been a bad idea to throw the Sydney midfield coach into the mix.

If Sheldon hadn't piped up, it might never have happened.

Sheldon, who left the Saints as the board changed over at the end of 2007, did not want to spruik this week.

But it is fact that he was first to prod the others and point them left-field in Lyon's direction.

It is understood several board members had eyes only for the usual suspects on the coaching carousel.

"I was just part of the process. My contribution's minimal,'' Sheldon said.

glad to see you've joined the thread. You've been pretty scarce this year?

As for the seemingly varying accounts, I prefer to believe the Chairman Ross Smith, a true Saints legend and clubman.

I also note that the article you are quoting talks of 'the board' and not the Coaching Selection Committee. It may well be that both accounts are actually true?
The Board had their own thoughts on who should be on the short list whereas the Committee (of which Butters was not a member) actually produced the short list.
IIRC Sheldon was not a member of 'the Board'.

Saints43 · Post: # 828809Post **Saints43** » Tue 22 Sep 2009 4:01pm

Mr Magic wrote:
Saints43 wrote:It depends on who we're believing this week. Walls took credit when it was going better - he stated somewhere that he threw RL's name into the mix. Sheldon when we were flying (see below) and had won nine in a row. Now Ross Smith had RL in his sights from day one - five days before we play in a grand final.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/n ... 5718309048

Rod Butterss, president at the time, and Sheldon met for a beer recently, chuckling that it hadn't been a bad idea to throw the Sydney midfield coach into the mix.

If Sheldon hadn't piped up, it might never have happened.

Sheldon, who left the Saints as the board changed over at the end of 2007, did not want to spruik this week.

But it is fact that he was first to prod the others and point them left-field in Lyon's direction.

It is understood several board members had eyes only for the usual suspects on the coaching carousel.

"I was just part of the process. My contribution's minimal,'' Sheldon said.
glad to see you've joined the thread. You've been pretty scarce this year?

As for the seemingly varying accounts, I prefer to believe the Chairman Ross Smith, a true Saints legend and clubman.

I also note that the article you are quoting talks of 'the board' and not the Coaching Selection Committee. It may well be that both accounts are actually true?
The Board had their own thoughts on who should be on the short list whereas the Committee (of which Butters was not a member) actually produced the short list.
IIRC Sheldon was not a member of 'the Board'.

You can use the search function if you're that interested in my posting.

All I'm saying is that there are different versions of how it happened and it's up to people to pick the one they like. But just because they like that version won't make it the correct one until the other versions are disproved.

No need to have a sook.