Another GT "Gem"... I agree 100%!

plugger66 · Post: # 824655Post **plugger66** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 6:55pm

matrixcutter wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
matrixcutter wrote:
joffaboy wrote:
meher baba wrote: Interestingly, Eade outcoached Ross again last night
F@@@ you are a sad sad bastard

You wouldn't have a clue.

Not a skerrick.

Piss Off and go give your GT doll one.

You dont deserve to enjoy this week.
are you f****** kidding me
out coached??
look at the changes made after the half??
stupid comment
unreal
i can see no matter what happens this week then some twats just wont be happy
correct, doesnt deserve to enjoy any of this weeks festivities
He may not have outcoached RL but he certainly coached as well as RL. He did a St Kilda to St Kilda. I think you can enjoy the week and still give positive comments to the oppostion. Doesnt mean yo are sad or stupid.
unreal
the guys been a nuff for the entire thread
of course eade coached well
at the start
but anyone that leaves sam fisher as free man in defence even for 15 mins has no idea imo...

go saints

And you thought the Dogs would be in front with 5 minutes to go?

matrix · Post: # 824656Post **matrix** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 6:56pm

mate i picked us by 5 goals!

rodgerfox · Post: # 824659Post **rodgerfox** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 6:57pm

saintsRrising wrote:
rodgerfox wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:
meher baba wrote:I knew my view that Eade outcoached Lyon .
Now I am confused..I thought that you and RF had Westaway as the "puppet master' pulling the coaching strings.

Surely you really mean that Eade outcoached Westaway?

??

Please, leave me out of your fantasies.

I've never said anything remotely close to that you lying lunatic.
So you now wish to retract that Westaway told Lyon what to do??

Glad you have come to your senses at lest in part.

The Board did strongly suggest to Ross Lyon that things needed to change in relation to our style of play. This was echoed publicly in one of Westaway's few public statements.

Fact.

Did I ever say or even suggest that Westaway was a puppet master pulling the strings behind the scenes? Absoluetly not you liar.

plugger66 · Post: # 824661Post **plugger66** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 6:59pm

matrixcutter wrote:mate i picked us by 5 goals!

That is my point. To be in front with little time left and with no tall forwards was a great playing and coaching effort.

Milton66 · Post: # 824662Post **Milton66** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 6:59pm

Who outcoached who?

Really a dumb argument IMO.

Yes, Eade did well. No not good enough perhaps? We won.

Chicken and egg argument.

Lyon coached well after 1/4 time. We regained composure and squeezed them dfensively.

In the end it came down to raw guts and talent, and we squeaked ahead.

The Doggies played their best ever footy to get within cooee of us.

I mean, who cares?

We won, and we're off to the big dance.

And RF, you get the first cha cha if we win next week.

Time to lock this thread.

PS: If we want to split hairs... that good old shut down Swans style served us well last night.

Finals are won from defence. End of story.

plugger66 · Post: # 824666Post **plugger66** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 7:02pm

This thread must never be locked. Should be used at all schools to show that grown adults are really kids at heart and also should show kids how the brain demishes with age.

rodgerfox · Post: # 824667Post **rodgerfox** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 7:03pm

I can't believe anyone is even talking about coaches after last night.

If ever it was as blatantly obvious that star players win games based on their ability, then last night was it.

Roo and Lenny's herculean efforts won the game.

they played for us - not the Dogs. that's why we won.

saintsRrising · Sat 19 Sep 2009 7:06pm

To the non-believers Also...if Ross cannot coach...how was he outcoached and why was it surprising????

To the Ross Believers; Funny is it not how the non-believers wish to completely disregard how the structures put in place by the coaching panel largely saved the day. The backline for example were under enormous pressure...but stood up superbly.

In earlier recent regimes such an onslaught as mounted by the Dogs would have broken our backs seeing an easy win to the opposition.

The FACT that we can win even when our skills are a bit off due to our structures is credit to our coaching panel.

Now yes Lenny and Roo played great games...but for example Roo NEVER used to tackle, chase and tackle like he did in the Dogs game. Roo has been a great player for a while...but the current coaching panel has turned him into a true elite player....or as decribed by Leigh Matthews last night the Most Valuable Player in the competition. roo used to be the player that oppostion players used to snigger about about...now they FEAR him.

saintsRrising · Sat 19 Sep 2009 7:09pm

rodgerfox wrote:

Roo and Lenny's herculean efforts won the game.

they played for us - not the Dogs. that's why we won.

Only a fool would not recognise that our backline and it's structures stood up superbly.

You might make an AA selector at your current rate.

White Winmar · Sat 19 Sep 2009 7:30pm

P66, I wish I could pay the "brain demishes with age" line as a deliberately clever mistake. But your priors suggest otherwise. Another accidental P66 "gem". We are never so stupid as when we're trying to be smart........ Just enjoy the week old fella, and save your brain for next Saturday.

plugger66 · Post: # 824694Post **plugger66** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 7:34pm

White Winmar wrote:P66, I wish I could pay the "brain demishes with age" line as a deliberately clever mistake. But your priors suggest otherwise. Another accidental P66 "gem". We are never so stupid as when we're trying to be smart........ Just enjoy the week old fella, and save your brain for next Saturday.

Sorry i spelt the word wrong. Did you show your Collingwood mates again at a dinner party and have a laugh. when people have a go at spelling a word wrong then you know they have nothing else to contribute.

matrix · Post: # 824713Post **matrix** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 7:49pm

plugger66 wrote:
matrixcutter wrote:mate i picked us by 5 goals!
That is my point. To be in front with little time left and with no tall forwards was a great playing and coaching effort.

i didnt say it wasnt lol
eade does well with what he has
but some match ups later after half time had me scratching my head
if they had a decent FF and a big CHB they would be a fantastic side

vacuous space · Sat 19 Sep 2009 7:50pm

meher baba wrote:With better forwards the Dogs would have blown us away.

That's such a cop out. The Dogs smashed a team with Brown and Bradshaw at the key posts last week. They were the highest scoring team this year. They may not have a Riewoldt, but neither do the teams playing tonight. I'd rather have Murphy at CHF and Johnson at FF than Cloke and Anthony - maybe even Mooney and Hawkins. Their mobility creates mismatches anyway.

Their forward structure looked just fine until quarter time. Then, once we took away their switch and limited their run, their forwards were suddenly forced into playing the kind of game we wanted them to play - overhead with little space to lead into. Their forward thrusts were more guesswork, less designed and completely ineffective.

I question whether Eade did anything particularly good after QT. His players were winning the ball all over the field and due to their lack of structure couldn't translate that into a win. Forget personel, if they had our structure and discipline, they'd be playing in the GF next week.

reincarnated · Sat 19 Sep 2009 8:00pm

plugger66 wrote:
White Winmar wrote:P66, I wish I could pay the "brain demishes with age" line as a deliberately clever mistake. But your priors suggest otherwise. Another accidental P66 "gem". We are never so stupid as when we're trying to be smart........ Just enjoy the week old fella, and save your brain for next Saturday.
Sorry i spelt the word wrong. Did you show your Collingwood mates again at a dinner party and have a laugh. when people have a go at spelling a word wrong then you know they have nothing else to contribute.

Reincarnated say Bingo

Reincarnated is not the greatest of spellers yet when engaging in debate posters when knowing they will not remain victorious decide to pick apart Reincarnated's spelling

Reincarnated understands most people on here are unintelligent

joffaboy · Post: # 824761Post **joffaboy** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 8:17pm

meher baba wrote:I knew my view that Eade outcoached Lyon would bring out the usual vitriol from the usual suspects. Obviously some of you come from a school of thought that the coach of the side that wins is always the better coach.

No you boring tiresome fool - some of us actually go to the game and see the moves made.

Some see the interchanges and the new matchups.

Some see the adjustments to the zones down the ground (you know the ones that the TV telecast doesn't show you).

You are a joke.

A clown.

You wanted RL sacked last year - but now because he is more successful than your hero you try to bring down the win last night by this BS "OUtcoached" crap.

A coach outcoached but the coach who outcoached him could only managed to get his superior coached team to kick 7 goals all night.

The superior coach who couldn't get his team to run through the middle after qtr but have to kick to contests. The superior coach whose team played the St.Kilda way - not the freewheeling Bulldog way - AND LOST.

Your view are pathetic bitter.

Just go from this forum. You have been PROVEN to be a fool of the highest order.

Sack Lyon

pfft you absolute cabbage.

You dont deserve to enjoy this week.

Milton66 · Post: # 824768Post **Milton66** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 8:22pm

joffaboy wrote:
meher baba wrote:I knew my view that Eade outcoached Lyon would bring out the usual vitriol from the usual suspects. Obviously some of you come from a school of thought that the coach of the side that wins is always the better coach.
No you boring tiresome fool - some of us actually go to the game and see the moves made.

Some see the interchanges and the new matchups.

Some see the adjustments to the zones down the ground (you know the ones that the TV telecast doesn't show you).

You are a joke.

A clown.

You wanted RL sacked last year - but now because he is more successful than your hero you try to bring down the win last night by this BS "OUtcoached" crap.

A coach outcoached but the coach who outcoached him could only managed to get his superior coached team to kick 7 goals all night.

The superior coach who couldn't get his team to run through the middle after qtr but have to kick to contests. The superior coach whose team played the St.Kilda way - not the freewheeling Bulldog way - AND LOST.

Your view are pathetic bitter.

Just go from this forum. You have been PROVEN to be a fool of the highest order.

Sack Lyon pfft you absolute cabbage.

You dont deserve to enjoy this week.

Aw, come on... don't hold back.

Tell him what you really think.

joffaboy · Post: # 824779Post **joffaboy** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 8:26pm

rodgerfox wrote:I can't believe anyone is even talking about coaches after last night.

When someone deliberately flames a thread with the pathetic "outcoached" BS - it has to get a run.

The "outcoached" line s.hitted me when it was trotted out against GT after almost every single loss - and it s.hits me now when small minded egotists trot it out to try to diminish our current coach.

But in essence you are correct. Over the coures of the game last night the coaches had little impact.

The coaching impact was the brillant game plan RL has put together. In a cutthroat fight to the death last night - our forward setup not working - our basic defensive structure held together beautifully and restricted the highest scoring team this year to 7 goals.

Gameday coaching is overrated - however the coaching of Lyon to meld this team into thegameplan needed to grind out a tight PF win cannot be understated.

rodgerfox · Post: # 824788Post **rodgerfox** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 8:33pm

joffaboy wrote: Gameday coaching is overrated - however the coaching of Lyon to meld this team into thegameplan needed to grind out a tight PF win cannot be understated.

Totally concur.

Game day coaching is overrated.

Getting good players, getting them fit, and getting them able to carry out instructions and work together for 4 quarters without losing concentration is what a coach needs to do.

Lyon did it better than Eade last night.

Simple.

Was it Eade's fault that they lost though? No.
Was it Lyon's fault, on the night, that we won? No.

Overrated by so many.

rodgerfox · Post: # 824796Post **rodgerfox** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 8:38pm

joffaboy wrote:
The coaching impact was the brillant game plan RL has put together. In a cutthroat fight to the death last night - our forward setup not working - our basic defensive structure held together beautifully and restricted the highest scoring team this year to 7 goals.

Just to play devil's advocate for a second, who's fault is it that the forward setup didn't function?

joffaboy · Post: # 824797Post **joffaboy** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 8:40pm

rodgerfox wrote:
joffaboy wrote: Gameday coaching is overrated - however the coaching of Lyon to meld this team into thegameplan needed to grind out a tight PF win cannot be understated.
Totally concur.

Game day coaching is overrated.

Getting good players, getting them fit, and getting them able to carry out instructions and work together for 4 quarters without losing concentration is what a coach needs to do.

Lyon did it better than Eade last night.

Simple.

Was it Eade's fault that they lost though? No.
Was it Lyon's fault, on the night, that we won? No.

Overrated by so many.

Seems to be a media hyperbole talking point that everyone has swallowed.

joffaboy · Post: # 824799Post **joffaboy** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 8:42pm

rodgerfox wrote:
joffaboy wrote:
The coaching impact was the brillant game plan RL has put together. In a cutthroat fight to the death last night - our forward setup not working - our basic defensive structure held together beautifully and restricted the highest scoring team this year to 7 goals.

Just to play devil's advocate for a second, who's fault is it that the forward setup didn't function?

The players - IMHO. They didn't adjust to the tempo very well early on and seemed to be a bit heavy legged. Many many nervous starts and terrible turnovers also didn't help.

Bulldogs also threw everthing at the Saints in the first qtr - but once fatigue set in and the Saints settled into their gameplan rythme I thought we started to get the forwards working a bit better.

SENsei · Post: # 824813Post **SENsei** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 9:03pm

Oh the irony. The dripping dripping irony.

P66 has a go at brains....and misspells/types 'diminishing'.

And another .KNOB calls most of the people on this forum 'unintelligent'.

Stop it. Stop it now. My stomach hurts.

saintsRrising · Sat 19 Sep 2009 9:18pm

rodgerfox wrote:

Was it Eade's fault that they lost though? No.
.

Maybe he should have pushed harder to recruit a KPF...

Or maybe he should have perserved more with his developing talls.

But one thing is for sure without Lyon's coaching to develop the list in to what it is today... mentally, structurally and personnel wise the Saints would not have won.

Credit goes to Lyon.

Coaching is a lot more than what the coach does on match-days.

joffaboy · Post: # 825176Post **joffaboy** » Sat 19 Sep 2009 11:57pm

What would GT do about Geelong?

Oh thats right he never got us to a GF did he?

asiu · Post: # 825738Post **asiu** » Sun 20 Sep 2009 12:56pm

i drink way to much vodka

its got nothing to do with the chicken or the egg .....very obviously , and i mean , obviously , the rooster came first

ffs

how **** hard is it ?

no lenny ...... no here today ....simple

i love you lenny hayes ........a captains game from the vice captain

chicken or the **** egg ....hahahahahaha.....gooses....lenny **** hayes came , comed and **** conquered

i need another one , just like the other one

wheres the tally **** ho's .....lenny , lenny , lenny

lenny ,
lenny ,
lenny ,

thankyou lenny **** hayes