Another GT "Gem"... I agree 100%!

The Fireman · Wed 16 Sep 2009 10:10pm

markp wrote:I think perhaps some are retreating to the safe and familiar banality of this somewhat pointless argument in an attempt to momentarily distract themselves from the magnitude of what is about to transpire, and the precipice we are confronted with.

Either that or they are total dead sh!ts.

Sleeping dogs?? You know what to do with them.
Mind you a pack of inane posts to push it past 30 would be excusable considering the poor quality of what has preceded.

Milton66 · Post: # 821402Post **Milton66** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 10:46pm

So why keep adding to it?

Like I posted earlier...

This argument is like Big Brother. We know it's cr@p but we keep tuning in, hoping to catch a glimpse of a nipple.

The Fireman · Wed 16 Sep 2009 10:51pm

Milton66 wrote:So why keep adding to it?

Like I posted earlier...

This argument is like Big Brother. We know it's cr@p but we keep tuning in, hoping to catch a glimpse of a nipple.

So that's what Big Brother was all about...?
Why didn't someone tell me....

Milton66 · Post: # 821415Post **Milton66** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 10:57pm

The Fireman wrote:
Milton66 wrote:So why keep adding to it?

Like I posted earlier...

This argument is like Big Brother. We know it's cr@p but we keep tuning in, hoping to catch a glimpse of a nipple.
So that's what Big Brother was all about...?
Why didn't someone tell me....

mate, that WAS the only reason the ratings were high.

Milton66 · Post: # 821421Post **Milton66** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 11:01pm

Wow, now there's an idea...

Big Brother Saintsational.

Imagine that.

Plugger66 would be the first one voted out. It happens to all goody-goody 2 shoes types.

B4E, RF, JB, MB, SrS and Stinger, all in one room.

OhWhenTheSaintsWould win for sure.

Then Reincarnated could be the mystery guest who drops in to rattle some cages.

Mind you, the shower scenes would put you off sausages for the rest of your life.

joffaboy · Post: # 821425Post **joffaboy** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 11:06pm

Piss off Wayne - I wouldn't go near a room with that bunch of felcher GT lovers in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why did RodgerFox slink off when shown to be fabricating quotes by SrR?

Why did RF run away after calling SrR a liar and then not being able to back it up.

I would also like to know why RF posted that quote that SrR put up stating that GT couldn't coach

Where did you go Rodge?

get a bit hot for you did it???

sunsaint · Post: # 821433Post **sunsaint** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 11:20pm

Milton66 wrote:
erm, once again you come out to play.

Where did I say that I agree with his comment on Ratten?
...
Perhaps your lies and accusations ...

Where did I say anything about Ratten?
I dont mind being called a liar, as long as you back it up
and I wouldnt normally single out a 4 month old newcomer to the forum, but with 1300 posts in such a short time somehow I dont think you're new to flame wars.
Apart from being a massive distraction, just glad more forumites are seeing the thread for what it is

Milton66 · Post: # 821443Post **Milton66** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 11:48pm

sunsaint wrote:
Milton66 wrote:
So can someone please explain once and for all why it is such a mortal sin to question the comments of another journo simply because he is an ex-coach?

OMG... I'm starting to sound as sanctimoniuos as Plugger66.
its a "mortal sin" when you start a thread with sarcastic criticism, only to fess up later that you didnt have problem with the comment.

Lie: it wasn't started like that. His comment on Ratten got my attention, and I didn't think it was valid. I did go on to state that I agree with some of his comments. Suggest you re read the posts.

SO after 25 pages the OP sat back giggling all the while fanning furiously the flame war.

Lie: Unsubstantiated allegation.

You cant help yourself its' your nature.

Lie: It's my nature to discuss all things footy. I take offence to allegations that it was deliberate set-up to start a flame war. Show me where I've done this, apart from responding directly to certain posters?

And shame on the rest of you for buying into it.
Surely there is no sand left in this sandpit?

Hope that backs up my comments.

Also, wtf has how many posts I've made in four months make it your business?

So I enjoy the interaction and have ample time to do it. WTF is it any of your business?

Your post was a cheap shot, and it's not the first time you've directed one at me. If you choose to post less, that's your call.

So if you don't like my threads...F*** off. Simple.

BTW, people have entered the thread of their own volition. I didn't put a gun to their heads and force them.

Get your facts right.

Milton66 · Post: # 821448Post **Milton66** » Wed 16 Sep 2009 11:51pm

joffaboy wrote:Piss off Wayne - I wouldn't go near a room with that bunch of felcher GT lovers in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why did RodgerFox slink off when shown to be fabricating quotes by SrR?

Why did RF run away after calling SrR a liar and then not being able to back it up.

I would also like to know why RF posted that quote that SrR put up stating that GT couldn't coach

Where did you go Rodge?

get a bit hot for you did it???

Who is this man called Wayne you refer to? My name is William.

SENsei · Post: # 821456Post **SENsei** » Thu 17 Sep 2009 12:07am

Phil - 29

Daylight

The rest of you flogs.

Phil is the real deal.

Mr Magic · Post: # 821460Post **Mr Magic** » Thu 17 Sep 2009 12:13am

Milton66 wrote:
joffaboy wrote:Piss off Wayne - I wouldn't go near a room with that bunch of felcher GT lovers in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why did RodgerFox slink off when shown to be fabricating quotes by SrR?

Why did RF run away after calling SrR a liar and then not being able to back it up.

I would also like to know why RF posted that quote that SrR put up stating that GT couldn't coach

Where did you go Rodge?

get a bit hot for you did it???
Who is this man called Wayne you refer to? My name is William.

You're not Milton the Monster?

3 drops of the essence of terror,
5 drops of sinister sauce,
when the stirring's done,
can I lick the spoon?
Of Course, Of course.

And now for a touch of tenderness,
but I must use only a touch.
for withour a touch of tenderness,
it might destroy me,
oops!
too much!

White Winmar · Thu 17 Sep 2009 12:17am

It's a tincture of tenderness! One post closer to 30 pages. Come on, we can do it!

Mr Magic · Post: # 821465Post **Mr Magic** » Thu 17 Sep 2009 12:21am

White Winmar wrote:It's a tincture of tenderness! One post closer to 30 pages. Come on, we can do it!

I defer to your greater knowledge on the line.

Better hold my breath,
It's starting to grow

Shaggy · Post: # 821467Post **Shaggy** » Thu 17 Sep 2009 12:23am

Milton66 wrote:So why keep adding to it?

Like I posted earlier...

This argument is like Big Brother. We know it's cr@p but we keep tuning in, hoping to catch a glimpse of a nipple.

This is the truest post you have ever made.

What you dont understand is that some find it offensive to pot saints and ex saints.

Who needs opposition supporters when you, Sr and Joffaboy are right out there potting our own.

Good on you.

White Winmar · Thu 17 Sep 2009 12:32am

Doesn't detract from your excellent Milton the Monster metaphor, Mr Magic! (Some nice alliteration there too) Great to see one of my childhood favourites mentioned. Thread creeps inexorably towards 30 pages!

Mr Magic · Post: # 821486Post **Mr Magic** » Thu 17 Sep 2009 1:48am

Shaggy wrote:
Milton66 wrote:So why keep adding to it?

Like I posted earlier...

This argument is like Big Brother. We know it's cr@p but we keep tuning in, hoping to catch a glimpse of a nipple.
This is the truest post you have ever made.

What you dont understand is that some find it offensive to pot saints and ex saints.

Who needs opposition supporters when you, Sr and Joffaboy are right out there potting our own.

Good on you.

But shouldn't saints and ex-saints deserve to be 'potted' if they're worthy of being 'potted'?

Just because they're Saints or ex-Saints shouldn't, IMO, make them immune from criticism.

And that seems to be another of the 'basic issues' surrounding the sacking of GT on here.

Just because he's an 'ex-saint' shouldn't make it wrong to be critical of him when it's warranted. You may argue about whether it's actually warranted or not, but posters should be able to voice their opinions on him without being labelled 'GT-Haters' or 'GT-Lovers'.

As someone posted somewhere within these 29 pages, the issues surrounding GT and the Saints are not Black/White. There are various grey areas surrounding all the issues.

Personally I think he did a fantastic job, together with Waldron and the Board, in dragging us up from the depths of despair we found ourselves in 2000. I actually don't even care much that his appointment was a 'sham'.
But I do strongly believe that by 2006 he had achieved all he was capable of achieving with the team and needed to relinquish roles and/or move on.

None of us really know what actually happened at that time, but I'm happy to accept the general reports that he refused to accede to calls from the Board/CEO to establish a Football Dept as per the model provided by the sub-committe/consultants. Given that reluctance I don't have an issue with him being sacked.

I would point out that the position he found himself at SEN earlier this year would tend to endorse the 'picture' of GT not being prepared to accede to requests from authority/admin to assist by being a 'team player'. Whilst we might argue that 'on principle' he was ethical and right to do what he did, unfortunately in the 'real world' you sometimes need to 'play the game' to achieve certain goals. His failure to tone down his criticism of tha AFL could well have put the licence renewal of his employers in jeopardy. Had they lost that most important of licences, they very well could cease to exist.

That's not to say that he's not entertaining to listen to, or often can provide interesting information/insights into various aspects of football. It just tends to highlight, again IMO, that he values his own ethics/principles more than those of the 'team' he is part of.

Mr Magic · Post: # 821487Post **Mr Magic** » Thu 17 Sep 2009 1:50am

White Winmar wrote:Doesn't detract from your excellent Milton the Monster metaphor, Mr Magic! (Some nice alliteration there too) Great to see one of my childhood favourites mentioned. Thread creeps inexorably towards 30 pages!

Hello Daddy,
What have I done?
I'm Milton, your brand new son.

(I'm trying hard to get it over the line

)

matrix · Post: # 821490Post **matrix** » Thu 17 Sep 2009 2:02am

AnythingsPossibleSaints · Thu 17 Sep 2009 2:41am

I've only read a few of the posts to this thread (none seem to be about GT), but I'm writing this one to see if I can get it to the 30 page mark. We can do it!

matrix · Post: # 821500Post **matrix** » Thu 17 Sep 2009 2:42am

yeah i think it could nudge 30

AnythingsPossibleSaints · Thu 17 Sep 2009 3:15am

Not quite there yet. Lets see how this goes.

matrix · Post: # 821509Post **matrix** » Thu 17 Sep 2009 3:33am

about another 5 or so i reckon
depends how long they are

Mr Magic · Post: # 821528Post **Mr Magic** » Thu 17 Sep 2009 8:51am

The Fireman · Thu 17 Sep 2009 8:59am

Mr Magic wrote:4?

3?

stinger · Post: # 821548Post **stinger** » Thu 17 Sep 2009 9:56am

Shaggy wrote:
What you dont understand is that some find it offensive to pot saints and ex saints.

correct...