Raph ?

[saintbob]

Raph played his part, got better as the day went on.

[The Peanut]

No one is getting dropped next game. the only players who could are in order Eddy, Bally and then Raph but no one is going to go.

Sounds good to me

[widereceiver]

I am mightily sick of the semi-racist taunts towards Raph, my family and I hear at the footy from some of our own fans. What a shower, convert to some other racist club!

First, I know Raph made a few more clangers today - he is not my favourite player, but as others have noted, he improved as the day went on.

I had to remind one guy today of the club's motto, he and others seem to have forgotten it or otherwise I wouldn't think they would call him a boong or a coon when something he tries to do doesn't come off.

(Interestingly, they don't use those words when he does something good).
Strength though loyalty.

[plugger66]

I am mightily sick of the semi-racist taunts towards Raph, my family and I hear at the footy from some of our own fans. What a shower, convert to some other racist club!

First, I know Raph made a few more clangers today - he is not my favourite player, but as others have noted, he improved as the day went on.

I had to remind one guy today of the club's motto, he and others seem to have forgotten it or otherwise I wouldn't think they would call him a boong or a coon when something he tries to do doesn't come off.

(Interestingly, they don't use those words when he does something good).
Strength though loyalty.

And i am sick of posts that suggest racist comments. raph wasnt good today but in my opinion Eddy and Bally were also poor. They are white Raph isnt. What is the issue.

[snoopygirl]

You weren't sitting in M50 were you widereceiver?

2 guys & a girl a few rows behind me were singling Raph out for criticism to the point where the girl yelled out for him to do something, don't just stand there when he was standing the mark.

[maverick]

Thought Raph was very good today.
Lockyer hardly touched it and when he went forward he created across half forward which is somethign we have struggled with all year.

His handball to space for Roo was all class.

McQualter and Raph get similar possessions at different ends of the ground, one gets lauded one gets lambasted.

Both are vitally important and played their roles today.

[saintly_safes]

Everyone on the site knows my opinion on Raph & today I thought he was servicable with out being a walk up starter next game.Did some really dumb things at times but then did some really clever game changeing things to keep his hat in the ring.On todays performance he will definately get a gig next game

[Hurricane]

Had a pretty good game. Did some good things and was by no means a weak link

BANG BANG

[Animal Enclosure]

FFS he made one blue early in the game (a poor handball) & for the rest of the game was solid & did some very nice things.

I suppose some people will always find fault with him despite the fact that he is a very important player to our back line set up.

Not everyone can rack up the numbers that Lenny, Dal, Joey, etc do but they DO THEIR JOB.

We need blokes to play their roles to Ross' instructions (whether than be get 30 touches, kick multiple goals or stop opposition forwards & provide some great run from defence).

[OneEyedSainter77]

Was poor today in my opinion. A woeful first half was made up for by an average second half. But I wouldn't drop him. He looked a lot more comfortable after those early blunders and I ddin't hold them against the rest of the team, so why him?

[Bernard Shakey]

raph wasnt good today

Were you at the MCG?

Raph did a great job today.

Who would you replace him with plugger66?

[gosainters66]

sorry guys i dont rate raph and i didnt rate his game today , he puts on good tackle pressure but thats all , his ball use and decision making is very poor and lets him down two often imo , i wasnt impressed with zacs game today , hes been down for 4 weeks imo

[plugger66]

sorry guys i dont rate raph and i didnt rate his game today , he puts on good tackle pressure but thats all , his ball use and decision making is very poor and lets him down two often imo , i wasnt impressed with zacs game today , hes been down for 4 weeks imo

Would you drop either of them?

[BigMart]

I think Raph at his best is a very good player.......today wasn't his best...

He made some errors which were costly.....and had to be moved from defence.....which probably saved his spot...

[gosainters66]

would drop raph not sure on zac also eddy out for geary

[plugger66]

would drop raph not sure on zac also eddy out for geary

So we win our first final and you want at least 2 out if not three. I seriously wonder about some people.

[Milan Faletic]

We must always have a Raph thread.

Did he do enough ?

Please can we leave him alone.

He is a required player as is Blake.

Why do we have to whip players?

He was great in the last quarter. He ran Presti off his feet when Roo was stuffed and gave him a breather. He lead about 60 metres to take that mark on the flank. He is trying hard.

[gosainters66]

plugger66
Saintsational Legend



so we win a game but you dont want to make it any stronger if possable you dont think we should drop any one

[Bernard Shakey]

would drop raph not sure on zac also eddy out for geary

So we win our first final and you want at least 2 out if not three. I seriously wonder about some people.

You said Raph wasn't good today and Eddy and Ball were worse, so what would you do?

[plugger66]

plugger66
Saintsational Legend



so we win a game but you dont want to make it any stronger if possable you dont think we should drop any one

How did the replacements go today or yesterday? if we had some stars to come back in well fair enough but the players who missed out arent stars so lets go with what got us there.

[realdeal]

sorry guys i dont rate raph and i didnt rate his game today , he puts on good tackle pressure but thats all , his ball use and decision making is very poor and lets him down two often imo , i wasnt impressed with zacs game today , hes been down for 4 weeks imo

some people are funny. No idea at all.

He's improved with every game, in fact he's been one of our better players the past few weeks. He made a couple of early blunders but so did BJ, Dal, Blake etc....

The match-ups worked and it was a great move to put him up forward, he isn't a great kick for goal but he reads the game well and provided an extra option that we lacked! He's easily safe.

and we even should've won by 40 odd in the end, lets just enjoy the week off and get the Raph blinkers off..

2 more wins to go....

[gosainters66]

your a tosser this is what you said earlier


plugger66
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Posted: Sun 06 Sep 2009 8:13pm Post subject:

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skeptic wrote:
Zac was ok, but would prefer Hudghton, I still reckon he's a little suspect under pressure


Agree lets drop Zac.

[widereceiver]

I am mightily sick of the semi-racist taunts towards Raph, my family and I hear at the footy from some of our own fans. What a shower, convert to some other racist club!

First, I know Raph made a few more clangers today - he is not my favourite player, but as others have noted, he improved as the day went on.

I had to remind one guy today of the club's motto, he and others seem to have forgotten it or otherwise I wouldn't think they would call him a boong or a coon when something he tries to do doesn't come off.

(Interestingly, they don't use those words when he does something good).
Strength though loyalty.

And i am sick of posts that suggest racist comments. raph wasnt good today but in my opinion Eddy and Bally were also poor. They are white Raph isnt. What is the issue.

The issue is I don't like hearing, and don't like my kids hearing, racist comments from any supporters, especially our own.

If you think it's cool, that's your opinion, I think it stinks and that's mine. I will post against it whenever I read it and speak out against it whenever I hear it.

How Raph played is a separate issue entirely. Well enough to keep his spot, IMHO.

[plugger66]

your a tosser this is what you said earlier


plugger66
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Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 9609
Location: oakleigh
Posted: Sun 06 Sep 2009 8:13pm Post subject:

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skeptic wrote:
Zac was ok, but would prefer Hudghton, I still reckon he's a little suspect under pressure


Agree lets drop Zac.

Did i really say that. Well lets drop him then. By the way everyone knows im a tosser but thanks for reminding them.

[jackal]

um..everyone lauds Lyon for being a great coach (and rightly so) but then bags his selection of players such as Raph.
To me this shows a lack of an understanding about why we are winning. Team success is more3 important...raph is obviously doing stuff off the ball that the coaching staff rate highly.