Whether it has been 'garranteed' behind closed doors is realistic....but i do remember it being some sort of an announcement closer to the GF in years gone past.......
Anyways maybe I am just being overly paranoid about getting f***ed over....
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redwhite&blackblood wrote:From my understanding only Foundation SC Members are guaranteed a seat other SC members get remaining tickets before remaining tickets are offered to ordinary members.aussierules0k wrote:My thoughts too Raven.
I'm a bit confused about the standing room bit...
I thought that by becoming a SC member, it guaranteed you a SEAT at the GF (if we made it). If so, we shouldn't need the standing option.
Am I now to understand SC'ers are only guaranteed ENTRY?
I don't think my dear old mum will wanna stand and I'd rather watch it on tele than stand up the back.
Is it possible we wont be allocated enough SEATS to cover all the SC members?
Please explain - someone that knows.
I am one and haven't been informed if it has been ceased. It was designed for the purpose to ensure the long term (before 2004) SC member do get GF tickets.Spinner wrote:redwhite&blackblood wrote:From my understanding only Foundation SC Members are guaranteed a seat other SC members get remaining tickets before remaining tickets are offered to ordinary members.aussierules0k wrote:My thoughts too Raven.
I'm a bit confused about the standing room bit...
I thought that by becoming a SC member, it guaranteed you a SEAT at the GF (if we made it). If so, we shouldn't need the standing option.
Am I now to understand SC'ers are only guaranteed ENTRY?
I don't think my dear old mum will wanna stand and I'd rather watch it on tele than stand up the back.
Is it possible we wont be allocated enough SEATS to cover all the SC members?
Please explain - someone that knows.
Does foundation club social status still exist?
saintsRrising wrote:As far as I am aware Foundation is still there...but it now has no bearing on GF ticket allocation.
It did when GF to competing clubs were assigned pr-rata.
But with a fixed allocation now..unfortunately the Club does not care....they are happy to give a SC to anyone that pays this year regardless if they have ever been a SC Member or will remain one.
Personally I think it is poor form for the club to have so quickly abandonded Foundation SC Members who were told they would have priority.
there is now no incentive re tickets for people to stay SC Members...when you can just cherry pick in the good years.
IMO the Club is short sighted in this
Don't wait for the light at the end of the tunnel to appear, run down there and light the bloody thing yourself!
I agree with you b4e as I did with SrR...barks4eva wrote:It's a FAIR DINKUM disgrace,
I know of Social Club members who have been Social club members for over twenty years, I myself have bought two Social Club memberships for the past 12 years,
I also know a few people who only joined up as a Social Club member this year a couple of months ago just before the 11,500 figure was reached because we looked like a good chance of making the Grand Final,
All are treated the same, it's a joke, no priority given to anyone for their long standing loyalty,
randomized selection, FAIR DINKUM
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Hypothetical:-
So an 80yo member of 30 years plus gets shafted and gets a standing room ticket while a bandwagon jumper who only upgraded in June because we were on top of the ladder gets a comfy seat, could be just one scenario of this nonsense, where once again members, this time loyal Social Club members are treated with absolute contempt,
Why should Social Club members of more than 10 years be put in a raffle with those that only joined up two months ago for one reason only (absolutely nothing to do with loyalty) with an equal chance of getting given standing room tickets or none at all if you choose to not tick that option,
This is total bullshyte, so much for Foundation status, so much for rewarding LOYALTY, what an absolute joke!![]()
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FAIR DINKUM
Ringing the club tomorrow, I will certainly be telling them what I think about this bullshyte arrangement that smacks of convenience,
We as members are asked to dig deeper and I've been buying two Social Club memberships for over ten years, the extra one just my way of digging deeper, but it seems that it's too much to ask to have a system by which longer standing members actually get rewarded,
Imagine 70 and 80 yo, social club members for over 20 years being offered standing room tickets,
FAIR DINKUM!
Don't wait for the light at the end of the tunnel to appear, run down there and light the bloody thing yourself!
Two things have changed since FOundation membership was introducedfarquhar wrote:I am a foundation social club member because as such as I was guaranteed a grand final ticket.
If the foundation part of it has been scrapped then I feel hoodwinked because that was part of the marketing.
The club even sent out stat decs last year to confirm which year you joined as a member.
If the foundation aspect has been removed, was this purely to embroider hats and scarves?
This is what it should be, but I think its now just a random allocation around all socialclub members who register. The foundation part is now just a 'title' on the membership card.redwhite&blackblood wrote:From my understanding only Foundation SC Members are guaranteed a seat other SC members get remaining tickets before remaining tickets are offered to ordinary members.aussierules0k wrote:My thoughts too Raven.
I'm a bit confused about the standing room bit...
I thought that by becoming a SC member, it guaranteed you a SEAT at the GF (if we made it). If so, we shouldn't need the standing option.
Am I now to understand SC'ers are only guaranteed ENTRY?
I don't think my dear old mum will wanna stand and I'd rather watch it on tele than stand up the back.
Is it possible we wont be allocated enough SEATS to cover all the SC members?
Please explain - someone that knows.
Indeed.mich13 wrote:
The foundation part is now just a 'title' on the membership card.
I don't think that's right. I have been a Saints member for years and have just joined the Social Club and I am pretty sure my barcode number has not changed after I joined the Social Clubi would have thought that barks barcode as well as many of the peeps on here would be a lower number than mine as he/they first did social club yeeeeeears ago...so you would think that when we both register it recognizes that his number is lower and therefore he gets pref over where he wants to watch the game from.....we both get tickets as we are amongst the 11500 social club memebrs that DEF get tickets, except that he gets the first choice...and rightly bloody so, all members who have been with the club for ages, years, blimey decadeS even SHOULD have first dibbs on the allocated tickets.
Don't wait for the light at the end of the tunnel to appear, run down there and light the bloody thing yourself!
There is no way known bar code numbers will come into it. It will be luck of the draw. As for comment about 30,000 sponsorship well that is the maximum figure and that includes the 16000 the clubs get. The other tickets go to the MCC members and AFL members not sponsorship.matrixcutter wrote:i think a lot of peeps are confused and i put myself in the same boat
some people are thinking they are a social club member so they get a ticket automatically....thats not the case
the first 11,500 people that became social club members THIS YEAR get a ticket, and yup im guessing a ticket is just that..A TICKET (like someone else said, sorry cant remembr who, 'its not a seat, its entry and a ticket')
this is correct so far im presuming???
September Saint is a registration process of your membership number if u ARENT a social club member, just in case any of the 11500 social club members do not want a ticket (for whatever reason)
this is correct im presuming????
now the whole 'do i tick the box thats marked standing room' for social club members when we do it on wednesday (after we beat the pies) is a bit cloudy i reckon.
and i totally see where barks beef is here...
why should i have pref over someone that has been a social club member for 10, 20 years??
i shouldnt
i would have thought that barks barcode as well as many of the peeps on here would be a lower number than mine as he/they first did social club yeeeeeears ago...so you would think that when we both register it recognizes that his number is lower and therefore he gets pref over where he wants to watch the game from.....we both get tickets as we are amongst the 11500 social club memebrs that DEF get tickets, except that he gets the first choice...and rightly bloody so, all members who have been with the club for ages, years, blimey decadeS even SHOULD have first dibbs on the allocated tickets.
now,
when it gets down to the higher numbers (like mine) if ive ticked every box of acceptable ticket , yet there is standing room left...well then tough s*** really.
but a lot of the lower numbered peeps might have only picked prime and general seats as theirs prefs, i might have picked, premium, prime, general and standing....so when it comes around to me near the end of the allocation numbers (say we have hit the 10,000 mark out of the 11,500) there might be premium left (as some peeps didnt wanna fork out that amount of money) and standing room left. then i get a choice
phew....
honestly if the system doesnt recognise social club members years of loyalty to the club then that is not really good enough.
but then again
if the afl didnt give out FARKING p1ss poor ticket allocation numbers to the competing teams there wouldnt be much of a bloody problem
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and the other 70 odd thou?
split between other teams and corporate/sponsorship
i mean SEVENTY THOUSAND?????
surely 30 thousand at the MAX is enough for sponsorship companies
teams not competing dont need them and neither does most of that corporate mob, they can do what most others have to do, join their teams social club, or find a package somehow.
seriosuly this need to be in clear cut black and white how the standing room thing yadda yadda yadda works
yep, you're right, the system doesn't take years of loyalty into account and is just not good enough.matrixcutter wrote:phew....
honestly if the system doesnt recognise social club members years of loyalty to the club then that is not really good enough.
I thought they did know how long we have been members for....bergholt wrote:yep, you're right, the system doesn't take years of loyalty into account and is just not good enough.matrixcutter wrote:phew....
honestly if the system doesnt recognise social club members years of loyalty to the club then that is not really good enough.
i reckon they just don't have the information. if they have no way of knowing how long i've been a member, which is why they had to ask a couple of years ago, then how will they know how long i've been a social club member? i don't think they've even kept those records.
footy clubs are only just starting to be well run, remember - in the eighties and before that couldn't have been further from the truth.
Yeah spot on.GreatNo9s wrote:Has anyone actually confirmed that the Club has removed the Foundation SC entitlements ?
Or as usual have you all just worked yourselves into a lather because someone deemed that it is fact ?
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20-2 for the season and you're still potting the Club
I just don't get the thinking on here
I thought the reason (for lack of a better word) for all our so called "whinging" was due to the fact that we are supporters of our club, have been for years, through thick and thin and now we want to SUPPORT our club on the big day.TimPekin'sDirtyGuernsey wrote:GreatNo9s wrote:Has anyone actually confirmed that the Club has removed the Foundation SC entitlements ?
Or as usual have you all just worked yourselves into a lather because someone deemed that it is fact ?
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20-2 for the season and you're still potting the Club
I just don't get the thinking on here
Yeah spot on.
I think you lot should stop panicking - social club members will be catered for.
What's more important - where you sit or the fact you can get a ticket to the game?
Why don't one of you chicken littles ring the Club and find out instead of speculating and whingeing. It's worse than a mothers club meeting in here!
It's not that hard really.
For your information I'm also a Social Club member.Maxstar22 wrote:I thought the reason (for lack of a better word) for all our so called "whinging" was due to the fact that we are supporters of our club, have been for years, through thick and thin and now we want to SUPPORT our club on the big day.TimPekin'sDirtyGuernsey wrote:GreatNo9s wrote:Has anyone actually confirmed that the Club has removed the Foundation SC entitlements ?
Or as usual have you all just worked yourselves into a lather because someone deemed that it is fact ?
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20-2 for the season and you're still potting the Club
I just don't get the thinking on here
Yeah spot on.
I think you lot should stop panicking - social club members will be catered for.
What's more important - where you sit or the fact you can get a ticket to the game?
Why don't one of you chicken littles ring the Club and find out instead of speculating and whingeing. It's worse than a mothers club meeting in here!
It's not that hard really.
Nothing wrong with ppl wanting to know the correct information and get everything right for the GF so we can support our boys bring it home.
Many have mentioed that they will be ringing the club to clarify (me included).
So before you start on bagging us, how about you look at why we are saying what we are all saying.
Actually, I still can't believe posters on an internet forum who apparently have the same interests (The St Kilda Football Club, just in case anyone had forgotten) can act/type the way certain posters do. Sheesh